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Hmm. I'll probably get banned just for saying I found the title humorous, just because of the sheer comedic value of a medieval weapon used in that situation. It's just the way the title was worded so bluntly. I'm not glad the kid was hurt, I'm sad it happened overall, but despite my morals I couldn't help smiling a little after reading the title. Apparently I'm an awful person? I was relieved to know no one was seriously injured and shocked by some peoples' responses here. I can't change or help the fact that I find a small part of this situation funny though.
On August 31 2011 14:14 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:00 sevencck wrote: Hi everyone,
I have been reading over these forums now for some time, though I never bothered to sign up to post anything here. As a website for Starcraft enthusiasts it absolutely gets top marks, but I could never get past the reputation these forums have.
This will be my first post, and it wouldn't terribly surprise me if I discover that it's my last. I thought these forums were populated by intelligent people because of the nature of the often thought provoking content in the news that is posted and discussed here on a daily basis. I have to wonder though; I am utterly baffled at the overwhelming response either validating this reprehensible act, applauding the marksmanship, or making light of the situation. Firing a crossbow at a child from a car (moving or otherwise) for any reason is the height of callous negligent irresponsibility. What do you really know about the child? What if the child bled to death? What if the bolt missed and killed someone enjoying a morning stroll? Is this really the way we have been bred to respond to this type of behavior? Is it normal to suggest this is karma? What does it say about us when we look upon this as justice served or find it funny in any way?
DoctorHelvetica and Chargelot, I am thankful for people like you. I am vicariously ashamed. This forum isn't what it was.  People who figured out how to register here and make a few posts about their idiotic, immortal opinions don't represent this forum or, more importantly, the community in general. That said, I think some of the bans in this thread were deserved and some weren't at all. + Show Spoiler +
Edit: In case it wasn't clear, of course I don't agree with the shooter. It was immoral and wrong, though neither is throwing rocks at cars obviously.
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On August 31 2011 14:23 Maynarde wrote: How can you lol at this >_< Through a keyboard, monitor and a heavy amount of dissociation with reality  Poor kid. I used to be a miscreant little bastard as a kid and it's almost scary to think back at all the random people I messed with and what they could have done.
There's absolutely no excuse for firing a lethal weapon at a child that threw a rock at a car. It is beyond reprehensible and I can't imagine an excuse (Which is really saying something) that could mitigate the violence.
Screw that guy and I hope he goes to federal prison.
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On August 31 2011 14:19 taLbuk wrote: Poor kid, while throwing rocks is extremely dangerous, its pitiful to take out an act of violence like that on a child or otherwise.
Off Topic: If only Live Report threads got this kind of purge-treatment. <3 Mods.
At what point is a child NOT absolved of blame for his actions? When he murders someone? When he sets a building on fire on purpose?
I'm not saying shooting a child with a crossbow is justified, and I imagine the shooter probably doesn't feel great about himself (50/50 that he's either insane or he went in a fit of rage at the incident and did something out of character), but a very harsh punishment is in order.
What can someone who just got rocks thrown on his car by an unknown child really do for justice? If he takes him to try to find his parents and making him take responsibility, it's kidnapping (because odds are the child is relatively far from home so no point in waiting with him there until they come for him...). If he threatens him out of anger, he's a dangerous psychopath. If he takes any physical action, it's assault or attempted murder.
The child gets a slap on the wrist.
I think it's fair that I get to point out my hatred for such a situation. The person who gets rocks thrown at his car, causing a lot of potential damage and being potentially very dangerous can either be cast as a terrible person by pretty much anything he does or simply do nothing. I mean, he could give him a stern talking to I guess but that accomplishes nothing. Odds are the child will not stop just because someone gets a bit mad at him.
Again, not saying it's OK to shoot him with a freaking crossbow. But what the hell can someone do? And yeah, I can understand someone snapping when a possibly very expensive car gets dented and scratched.
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On August 31 2011 13:31 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:21 wei2coolman wrote:On August 31 2011 12:07 Enervate wrote: How can you side with the crossbow guy? The kid could have been seriously hurt or killed. Wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not saying it's not funny (because of how unexpected it is), but when people are seriously suggesting the kid deserved to get shot or when people applaud this guy, that's just really bad. And throwing a rock, while the car is passing at 40+mph isn't just as dangerous? That could shatter a windshield and take a guys head right off... The little shit got lucky the crossbow didn't kill him. I dont know how many people have already said that there is no way the car was going over 30. But also, it doesn't matter too much how fast the car was going. Anyways, what would you think if instead of the kid getting shot with a crossbow he was shot with a gun? Because it's basically the same thing. These news threads really show the worst in people lol
I would think the same as I do now. There is always a bigger dick. Sure it wouldn't be so funny if the kid dies but anyone who has had rocks thrown at there car before is going to chuckle, it damages your car and there is very little you can do about it, now some one has done something about it. I am not saying its right, but it is funny.
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Well I doubt that the shooter intended to hit the abdomen. I think he wanted to kill that kid and that he is lucky to be alive. He shoot a deadly weapon at a moving target so at least he accepted the possibility of a deadly shot.
He should have called the cops.
Whilst I don't necessarily agree with shooting the kid, sometimes I gotta wonder if the law was more harsh on these idiots maybe they would think twice before throwing rocks at cars,
I very much doubt that it will help and most of them get away anyway.
Wow ...Kwark just.... wow
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Is there information on the rocks the kid was throwing? Like, was he throwing pebbles, regular rocks, or hurling boulders? Certainly that might have merited the excessive action taken by the shooter. Probably also depended on the person's mood and car
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On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol. User was temp banned for this post. I don't understand why this was bannable o_O
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On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol. User was temp banned for this post. I don't understand why this was bannable o_O
because kwark doesn't believe this is funny
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Don't think I have ever seen so many people get banned from a thread with only 17 pages :O
Shooting a child with a crossbow is a despicable act and I can't believe how many people are either laughing at it or outright condone it.
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On August 31 2011 14:28 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 14:19 taLbuk wrote: Poor kid, while throwing rocks is extremely dangerous, its pitiful to take out an act of violence like that on a child or otherwise.
Off Topic: If only Live Report threads got this kind of purge-treatment. <3 Mods. At what point is a child NOT absolved of blame for his actions? When he murders someone? When he sets a building on fire on purpose? I'm not saying shooting a child with a crossbow is justified, and I imagine the shooter probably doesn't feel great about himself (50/50 that he's either insane or he went in a fit of rage at the incident and did something out of character), but a very harsh punishment is in order. What can someone who just got rocks thrown on his car by an unknown child really do for justice? If he takes him to try to find his parents and making him take responsibility, it's kidnapping (because odds are the child is relatively far from home so no point in waiting with him there until they come for him...). If he threatens him out of anger, he's a dangerous psychopath. If he takes any physical action, it's assault or attempted murder. The child gets a slap on the wrist. I think it's fair that I get to point out my hatred for such a situation. The person who gets rocks thrown at his car, causing a lot of potential damage and being potentially very dangerous can either be cast as a terrible person by pretty much anything he does or simply do nothing. I mean, he could give him a stern talking to I guess but that accomplishes nothing. Odds are the child will not stop just because someone gets a bit mad at him. Again, not saying it's OK to shoot him with a freaking crossbow. But what the hell can someone do? And yeah, I can understand someone snapping when a possibly very expensive car gets dented and scratched.
What about calling the police, since he's doing something illegal? Why do you have to take matters into your own hands?
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On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol. User was temp banned for this post. I don't understand why this was bannable o_O The only allowed response to this thread is ten pages of, "Oh, well, that's bad."
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On August 31 2011 14:36 FragKrag wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol. User was temp banned for this post. I don't understand why this was bannable o_O because kwark doesn't believe this is funny I don't understand why that is bannable
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On August 31 2011 14:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 14:28 Kurr wrote:On August 31 2011 14:19 taLbuk wrote: Poor kid, while throwing rocks is extremely dangerous, its pitiful to take out an act of violence like that on a child or otherwise.
Off Topic: If only Live Report threads got this kind of purge-treatment. <3 Mods. At what point is a child NOT absolved of blame for his actions? When he murders someone? When he sets a building on fire on purpose? I'm not saying shooting a child with a crossbow is justified, and I imagine the shooter probably doesn't feel great about himself (50/50 that he's either insane or he went in a fit of rage at the incident and did something out of character), but a very harsh punishment is in order. What can someone who just got rocks thrown on his car by an unknown child really do for justice? If he takes him to try to find his parents and making him take responsibility, it's kidnapping (because odds are the child is relatively far from home so no point in waiting with him there until they come for him...). If he threatens him out of anger, he's a dangerous psychopath. If he takes any physical action, it's assault or attempted murder. The child gets a slap on the wrist. I think it's fair that I get to point out my hatred for such a situation. The person who gets rocks thrown at his car, causing a lot of potential damage and being potentially very dangerous can either be cast as a terrible person by pretty much anything he does or simply do nothing. I mean, he could give him a stern talking to I guess but that accomplishes nothing. Odds are the child will not stop just because someone gets a bit mad at him. Again, not saying it's OK to shoot him with a freaking crossbow. But what the hell can someone do? And yeah, I can understand someone snapping when a possibly very expensive car gets dented and scratched. What about calling the police, since he's doing something illegal? Why do you have to take matters into your own hands?
Well, odds are the kid won't wait there for 30 minutes for police to come by and give him a stern talking to and maybe contact his parents. If the child if 13 or under, odds are there are 0 consequences for him as well.
*Edit : Plus I don't have a cellphone so I'd need to find a phone too first.
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it's pretty sad that someone would shoot a crossbow at a kid. this is the real life equivalent of mr. wilson going medieval on dennis the menace, only not very comical and a lot more disturbing.
@everyone saying karma is a bitch, get real. most of us did stupid things as kids, whether we knew better or not. however, none of us deserved what this kid got.
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Made me giggle as it's such a surreal response to the act. Saying that, if it were a gun it would be a completely different story - don't understand how there were no arrests though.
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On August 31 2011 14:39 Caloooomi wrote: Made me giggle as it's such a surreal response to the act. Saying that, if it were a gun it would be a completely different story - don't understand how there were no arrests though. Well, that's the point, isn't it? Nobody's laughing at the act of violence, they're laughing at the absurdity of it being a crossbow.
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On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol. User was temp banned for this post. I don't understand why this was bannable o_O
Probably because it is close to the realms of "^" or "+1" posting. It adds nothing to the discussion other than to reaffirm what somebody said.
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If he was moving...that would be an epic shot.
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On August 31 2011 14:38 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 14:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 31 2011 14:28 Kurr wrote:On August 31 2011 14:19 taLbuk wrote: Poor kid, while throwing rocks is extremely dangerous, its pitiful to take out an act of violence like that on a child or otherwise.
Off Topic: If only Live Report threads got this kind of purge-treatment. <3 Mods. At what point is a child NOT absolved of blame for his actions? When he murders someone? When he sets a building on fire on purpose? I'm not saying shooting a child with a crossbow is justified, and I imagine the shooter probably doesn't feel great about himself (50/50 that he's either insane or he went in a fit of rage at the incident and did something out of character), but a very harsh punishment is in order. What can someone who just got rocks thrown on his car by an unknown child really do for justice? If he takes him to try to find his parents and making him take responsibility, it's kidnapping (because odds are the child is relatively far from home so no point in waiting with him there until they come for him...). If he threatens him out of anger, he's a dangerous psychopath. If he takes any physical action, it's assault or attempted murder. The child gets a slap on the wrist. I think it's fair that I get to point out my hatred for such a situation. The person who gets rocks thrown at his car, causing a lot of potential damage and being potentially very dangerous can either be cast as a terrible person by pretty much anything he does or simply do nothing. I mean, he could give him a stern talking to I guess but that accomplishes nothing. Odds are the child will not stop just because someone gets a bit mad at him. Again, not saying it's OK to shoot him with a freaking crossbow. But what the hell can someone do? And yeah, I can understand someone snapping when a possibly very expensive car gets dented and scratched. What about calling the police, since he's doing something illegal? Why do you have to take matters into your own hands? Well, odds are the kid won't wait there for 30 minutes for police to come by and give him a stern talking to and maybe contact his parents. If the child if 13 or under, odds are there are 0 consequences for him as well. *Edit : Plus I don't have a cellphone so I'd need to find a phone too first.
Probably not, but still, a stern talking to is about all you could give the child, without committing an illegal act yourself. You could also tell him you're phoning the cops on him, or at least threaten it, that might scare him. The alternative is basically kidnapping the kid, or assaulting him, which is pretty reprehensible.
Honestly, I'm not sure what the best thing to do in that situation would be, but it's obviously not committing assault with a deadly weapon. =/ (Not saying you think that, I just mean in general)
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On August 31 2011 14:42 Junbugger wrote: If he was moving...that would be an epic shot.
Dude, take a look at any of the other pages, posts like this have been banned all over this thread.
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