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On August 31 2011 13:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:21 wei2coolman wrote:On August 31 2011 12:07 Enervate wrote: How can you side with the crossbow guy? The kid could have been seriously hurt or killed. Wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not saying it's not funny (because of how unexpected it is), but when people are seriously suggesting the kid deserved to get shot or when people applaud this guy, that's just really bad. And throwing a rock, while the car is passing at 40+mph isn't just as dangerous? That could shatter a windshield and take a guys head right off... The little shit got lucky the crossbow didn't kill him. No one said it isn't dangerous. Here's a thought experiment for you. -You see a person speeding on the same road you are on, and he is driving erratically as well. -You stop at the same red light, and you are able to note the car's license plate as well as a description of the driver. Now, do you: A) Get out of your car with a gun, and shoot the driver of the speeding car? or B) Call the police and report the driver of the speeding car? A) its not a gun. B) I'd shoot out his engine block, because engine > his shitty pathetic life.
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crossbow, what did he shot with, an arrow?
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On August 31 2011 13:28 Bobgrimly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse Who said anything about attempting to murder the child? He just fired a projectile back at the person throwing projectiles at him. Tit for tat. If he wanted to murder the kid I think he would have stopped and gone and finished the job seeing as the kid probably couldn't run fast with a bolt in him. He probably just wanted to scare him and probably didn't even mean to succeed in hitting him. You are making way to many assumptions about the shooters motivation and goals. do you know what a crossbow is
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On August 31 2011 13:29 SwiperTheFox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:26 Nella wrote:
How can you not attempt murder by shooting someone with a deadly weapon? By aiming for a foot or knee. Simple really.
You can still kill someone with either of those shots. You have to be a complete idiot to not have the thought of committing murder while firing any weapon.
If the thought of murder crossed your mind and you still pull the trigger, it is attempted murder.
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On August 31 2011 13:28 Nella wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:27 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:23 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:19 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:12 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:10 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:[quote] I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder.  it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. it is not justifiable to assume he was going anywhere near 60mpg. He was probably going at a speed between 15-35. In California, residential area speeds are 25 and it is almost impossible to drive at a speed faster than 40 in these areas. You don't think a rock can be dangerous when thrown at a car doing 25 mph? ..... Where exactly did i say i didn't think it was dangerous........ I was only pointing out your ridiculous assumptions on the speed of the car I didn't assume anything. I was simply stating that the article did not specify anything more than it was a moving vehicle so it doesn't matter if he was going 20mph or 20000mph, throwing rocks at moving cars can potentially kill people. You assumed that the speeds could have been as high as 60 mph. Any of the passers by could have been going nearly any speed. What if a motorbike was passing? It could most certainly have been going 60mph so long as it was a properly paved road. Assuming that is it impossible to do these speeds through that street when you have no details of the street other than the speed limit was probably around 30mph is the silly assumption to make. As i have said.. I live in the area. So, yes i do have details.
What street did it happen on, and please tell me for what reasons make it impossible for a vehicle to be doing 60mph on that street exactly where those kids were throwing rocks.
And yes, vehicle does not just mean a car. Include motorbikes too.
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On August 31 2011 13:28 Bobgrimly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse Who said anything about attempting to murder the child? He just fired a projectile back at the person throwing projectiles at him. Tit for tat. If he wanted to murder the kid I think he would have stopped and gone and finished the job seeing as the kid probably couldn't run fast with a bolt in him. He probably just wanted to scare him and probably didn't even mean to succeed in hitting him. You are making way to many assumptions about the shooters motivation and goals.
You shouldn't even pull a potentially deadly weapon without the intent to use it, and thus potentially kill. That's exactly what the situation says. Deadly weapon = potential for deadly force = potential for death. That said, I think under the circumstances the charges would technically be manslaughter if he died, rather than murder. Much easier charge to stick.
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On August 31 2011 13:21 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 12:07 Enervate wrote: How can you side with the crossbow guy? The kid could have been seriously hurt or killed. Wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not saying it's not funny (because of how unexpected it is), but when people are seriously suggesting the kid deserved to get shot or when people applaud this guy, that's just really bad. And throwing a rock, while the car is passing at 40+mph isn't just as dangerous? That could shatter a windshield and take a guys head right off... The little shit got lucky the crossbow didn't kill him.
I dont know how many people have already said that there is no way the car was going over 30. But also, it doesn't matter too much how fast the car was going.
Anyways, what would you think if instead of the kid getting shot with a crossbow he was shot with a gun? Because it's basically the same thing.
These news threads really show the worst in people lol
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On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote: On one hand, I was kind of amused Pretty much sums it up for me lol.
hahahah had me laughing for a good two minutes.
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On August 31 2011 13:30 brachester wrote: crossbow, what did he shot with, an arrow? For a crossbow, its known as a "bolt", as it doesn't have the same fleshing or length as an arrow.
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On August 31 2011 13:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:28 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse Who said anything about attempting to murder the child? He just fired a projectile back at the person throwing projectiles at him. Tit for tat. If he wanted to murder the kid I think he would have stopped and gone and finished the job seeing as the kid probably couldn't run fast with a bolt in him. He probably just wanted to scare him and probably didn't even mean to succeed in hitting him. You are making way to many assumptions about the shooters motivation and goals. do you know what a crossbow is
Do you know what an assumption is? Also you mentioned chest... it was in the abdomen according to the article. Try READING. That's the stomach region just in case you didn't know.
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since a crossbow and a rock are apparently pretty equivalent would anyone here willingly sign up to a fight in which you are armed with a sack of rocks and i have a crossbow
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On August 31 2011 13:24 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse How do you know he was attempting to murder the kid? Unless, of course, YOU are the crossbow shooter...
This seems like the most likely scenario.
Glad the kid isn't seriously hurt.
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On August 31 2011 13:00 sevencck wrote: Hi everyone,
I have been reading over these forums now for some time, though I never bothered to sign up to post anything here. As a website for Starcraft enthusiasts it absolutely gets top marks, but I could never get past the reputation these forums have.
This will be my first post, and it wouldn't terribly surprise me if I discover that it's my last. I thought these forums were populated by intelligent people because of the nature of the often thought provoking content in the news that is posted and discussed here on a daily basis. I have to wonder though; I am utterly baffled at the overwhelming response either validating this reprehensible act, applauding the marksmanship, or making light of the situation. Firing a crossbow at a child from a car (moving or otherwise) for any reason is the height of callous negligent irresponsibility. What do you really know about the child? What if the child bled to death? What if the bolt missed and killed someone enjoying a morning stroll? Is this really the way we have been bred to respond to this type of behavior? Is it normal to suggest this is karma? What does it say about us when we look upon this as justice served or find it funny in any way?
DoctorHelvetica and Chargelot, I am thankful for people like you. I am vicariously ashamed. This forum isn't what it was.
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On August 31 2011 13:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: since a crossbow and a rock are apparently pretty equivalent would anyone here willingly sign up to a fight in which you are armed with a sack of rocks and i have a crossbow Only if you're also in an SUV.
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Oh my god, so much red.
Thanks for the purge, KwarK.
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Poor kid, while throwing rocks is extremely dangerous, its pitiful to take out an act of violence like that on a child or otherwise.
Off Topic: If only Live Report threads got this kind of purge-treatment. <3 Mods.
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Of course, the unintended side effect of making this thread sane is that he probably also nuked most of the discussion, since I think everyone who didn't get banned is pretty much agreed on the fact that the shooter is scum.
Small price to pay for making the thread human though.
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Whilst I don't necessarily agree with shooting the kid, sometimes I gotta wonder if the law was more harsh on these idiots maybe they would think twice before throwing rocks at cars, Both were committing crimes, obviously neither are in the right.I know someone that has recently gotten out of a decent stint of jail and did not mind it in there.
You could argue that the kid was endangering other peoples lives and he acted in self defense, over kill but I bet that kid won't be throwing rocks again. I doubt the laws wrist slap would change his behavior.
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Luckily for the kid it didn't mortally wound him. Sad story, but people tend to overreact a lot, like that recent family murder topic. Hopefully the kid learned his lesson and the shooter is apprehended.
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How can you lol at this >_<
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