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To anyone saying "You should just call the police or stop the car and give him a stern talking to":
Even if there was a cop 5 seconds away when you made the call, all the kid has to do is say 'that wasn't me' and there's nothing the police are going to be able to do about it except take an incident report.
Get out of a car and chase after a kid who just threw part of a cinder block at you? What if the kid has a gun? What if he screams foul and you get arrested for potentially assaulting a kid because his friend lies?
If a kid is out throwing rocks at cars, you can be pretty sure "a stern talking to" isn't going to be any sort of deterrent. A bolt through the chest? Pretty sure he won't be pulling any sort of crap again. At some point you have to give some ownership of the incident to the kid.
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On August 31 2011 15:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:36 TidusX.Yuna wrote:I looked up some other articles. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/san-diego-teenager-impaled-with-arrow-in-fight-that-began-with-rocks.htmlSan Diego "Teen". Believed to be shot by "Teens". I don't know how many times in the past 30 minutes I've read people rushing to the defense of the "small child" against the "grown man". The only place in the OP that mentions "child" is the fact that he went to a children's hospital, which is for anyone under 18. Don't get me wrong, I believe that this is an awful case where both parties should have severe consequences. But please, I beg, at least read the articles before arguing your sides to the cases. Alright, replace every instance of child and [adjective] child with "dumbass" and it is still not okay.
Yes, I fully agree with you.. not okay in the slightest. Just trying to throw some more information out there. It will make a lot of difference to some people knowing that it could possibly be a 17 year old who shot another 17 year old instead of a 30 year old shooting an 8 year old.
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On August 31 2011 15:45 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 31 2011 15:32 ProxiEchoes wrote: i keep laughing so hard at the word "crossbowman" being used in relevance to an event that occurred just recently.
honestly i think the rock throwing is more dangerous, people die from that all the time. what are the chances of killing a kid with a cross bow out of a moving car, less id say. If people shot children with crossbows as much as rocks were thrown at cars, I'm pretty sure the crossbows would prove a bit more lethal. It's not the potential for lethality, it's the frequencies of the occurrences. There are plenty of stories regarding injuries or deaths due to rocks thrown at cars; however, this is the first time I have heard of a driveby crossbow shooting. Imagine if the story was "kid throws rock, gets hit by driveby rpg." It would be even more ludicrous and garner some chuckles
That's not what he was saying. By your logic, guns are much more dangerous than nukes because they've, as a whole, killed more people because of the frequency.
On August 31 2011 15:47 Aulisemia wrote: To anyone saying "You should just call the police or stop the car and give him a stern talking to":
Even if there was a cop 5 seconds away when you made the call, all the kid has to do is say 'that wasn't me' and there's nothing the police are going to be able to do about it except take an incident report.
Get out of a car and chase after a kid who just threw part of a cinder block at you? What if the kid has a gun? What if he screams foul and you get arrested for potentially assaulting a kid because his friend lies?
If a kid is out throwing rocks at cars, you can be pretty sure "a stern talking to" isn't going to be any sort of deterrent. A bolt through the chest? Pretty sure he won't be pulling any sort of crap again. At some point you have to give some ownership of the incident to the kid.
Ahaha what the christ kind of logic is this. "A stern talking to won't work, but trying to kill them will so it's okay"
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On August 31 2011 15:45 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 31 2011 15:32 ProxiEchoes wrote: i keep laughing so hard at the word "crossbowman" being used in relevance to an event that occurred just recently.
honestly i think the rock throwing is more dangerous, people die from that all the time. what are the chances of killing a kid with a cross bow out of a moving car, less id say. If people shot children with crossbows as much as rocks were thrown at cars, I'm pretty sure the crossbows would prove a bit more lethal. It's not the potential for lethality, it's the frequencies of the occurrences. There are plenty of stories regarding injuries or deaths due to rocks thrown at cars; however, this is the first time I have heard of a driveby crossbow shooting. Imagine if the story was "kid throws rock, gets hit by driveby rpg." It would be even more ludicrous and garner some chuckles
Somehow I think you'd find there was a shortage of chuckling in this thread if that were the scenario... Personally, I think "boy throws rock at car, gets hit by RAV4 mounted railgun" would have me in stitches though...
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Well, this officially made my day. lololol. I can't imagine what the guy who did it was thinking. "Oh shit, I got a crack in my winshield! I just got that fixed. Good thing I just had my grandfathers antique crossbow cleaned. Stand and deliver you little shit!"
Good times
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On August 31 2011 15:37 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:31 Leporello wrote: Crossbowman would have a very easy time convincing a jury of temporary insanity. Say he was on a hunting trip with a friend. Some brat throws a rock at his car while they're driving. The selfish, reckless, violent act of the kid drives him into a high-powered road-rage, which is a very well documented syndrome. He grabs his crossbow just to fire a shot to scare the kid and teach him a lesson. But he missed. Oops. No problem, I'd let him off. **** that kid, seriously. If you want to get shot at by a stranger, there is probably no better way of going about it than what that kid was doing. A man who, when he gets angry, fires lethal weapons at children should not be allowed to walk free. I imagine he's looking at a decent bit of jailtime should they catch him. Attempted manslaughter of some degree is most probable.
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On August 31 2011 15:36 TidusX.Yuna wrote:I looked up some other articles. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/san-diego-teenager-impaled-with-arrow-in-fight-that-began-with-rocks.htmlSan Diego "Teen". Believed to be shot by "Teens". I don't know how many times in the past 30 minutes I've read people rushing to the defense of the "small child" against the "grown man". The only place in the OP that mentions "child" is the fact that he went to a children's hospital, which is for anyone under 18. Don't get me wrong, I believe that this is an awful case where both parties should have severe consequences. But please, I beg, at least read the articles before arguing your sides to the cases. Going to quote this to make sure it gets read.
It was an argument between two groups of teens, one of which started throwing rocks at the other's car. The guy in the car then pulled out the crossbow and shot the thrower.
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On August 31 2011 15:41 Fission wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:39 Theovide wrote:On August 31 2011 15:14 Fission wrote: So many clueless, self-righteously moral whiteknights in this thread. If you can't understand that the reason this is amusing is because of the absurdity of it being a crossbow, fired from a moving car, and not the fact that some kid who was trying to hurt innocent people on a highway by throwing rocks at their moving vehicles was hurt, then you are retarded. And by the way, if you're traveling at highway speed, and a large rock hits your windshield, it's extremely dangerous. The violence isn't funny, it being a crossbow is. If it was a bow and arrow, it would be even funnier. Why am I clueless and retarded for not having the same humour as you? What amuses me is how people on forums seemingly think that everyone who aren't exactly like themselves are retarded/clueless. Oh, and if you don't understand why that's amusing you're a poopface with blue moisty ears and a virgin (this totally makes sense, right?). I am absolutely unconcerned whether you find it funny or not. The people I'm speaking about are the ones who are accusing people like me of being "sick, inhuman monsters etc etc". What I find amusing is how you took a post that probably isn't even being directed at you, and somehow took offense to it. You understand WHY I find it to be funny, correct? You might disagree, or not, or anything in between, and that's great. Edit: summary: hurting people is bad. absurd things are funny->the situation is absurd-> therefore I find it is funny-> people don't understand that and mistakenly assume people find killing children funny and overreact -> I am annoyed at them
I understand that people can think this is funny, I have many friends who would have laughed their asses off. I can also understand people thinking it's very much not funny, and that it's depressing that some people are so unempathic that they can laugh at others people missfortune. The thing that caught my eye in your post was how you used the word clueless and retarded about those who didn't think like you did. Be it so that they think that your humour is disgusting, it doesn't make them either clueless nor retarded.
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Yeah the thread title needs to change, and maybe even the source article.
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If the guys who shot the crossbow were of close age with rockboy would people react in a similar way to beast master casey smashing up that ratty kid?
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This is why guns and things like it are bad for having around for general use. This was an impulsive action based on an initial anger reaction due to the rocks. People make stupid decisions all the time and impulsive ones can be the worst, especially when they are angry and feel slighted. These weapons just allow a convenient way of retaliation while in that impulsive state so they make a horrible decision. People don't stop and think for a god damn second.
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On August 31 2011 15:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:45 101toss wrote:On August 31 2011 15:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:On August 31 2011 15:32 ProxiEchoes wrote: i keep laughing so hard at the word "crossbowman" being used in relevance to an event that occurred just recently.
honestly i think the rock throwing is more dangerous, people die from that all the time. what are the chances of killing a kid with a cross bow out of a moving car, less id say. If people shot children with crossbows as much as rocks were thrown at cars, I'm pretty sure the crossbows would prove a bit more lethal. It's not the potential for lethality, it's the frequencies of the occurrences. There are plenty of stories regarding injuries or deaths due to rocks thrown at cars; however, this is the first time I have heard of a driveby crossbow shooting. Imagine if the story was "kid throws rock, gets hit by driveby rpg." It would be even more ludicrous and garner some chuckles That's not what he was saying. By your logic, guns are much more dangerous than nukes because they've, as a whole, killed more people because of the frequency. Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 15:47 Aulisemia wrote: To anyone saying "You should just call the police or stop the car and give him a stern talking to":
Even if there was a cop 5 seconds away when you made the call, all the kid has to do is say 'that wasn't me' and there's nothing the police are going to be able to do about it except take an incident report.
Get out of a car and chase after a kid who just threw part of a cinder block at you? What if the kid has a gun? What if he screams foul and you get arrested for potentially assaulting a kid because his friend lies?
If a kid is out throwing rocks at cars, you can be pretty sure "a stern talking to" isn't going to be any sort of deterrent. A bolt through the chest? Pretty sure he won't be pulling any sort of crap again. At some point you have to give some ownership of the incident to the kid. Ahaha what the christ kind of logic is this. "A stern talking to won't work, but trying to kill them will so it's okay"
they are... by the time a nuke have been thrown at full city's more then twice the amount would of been killed by guns >.> Quoto fail >.> im new >.>
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This is a much better article:
SAN DIEGO -- A 16-year-old boy who police said was throwing rocks at several vehicles was recovering Tuesday after being shot with a crossbow fired by someone inside a small sport utility vehicle, San Diego police reported.
The victim and another boy were throwing rocks at vehicles about 2:15 p.m. Monday in the vicinity of Linda Vista and Mesa College roads, police said. "That's where we're sorting out the stories," said SDPD Det. Gary Hassen. "One story says they were throwing rocks on Linda Vista Road. Another story says they were throwing rocks at another location."
Hassen said the boys got on a bus, and when they got off the bus, two young men in a black Toyota RAV 4 drove up. Someone in the SUV fired a crossbow, and an arrow hit one of the boys in the abdomen. He was treated at the hospital and is now at home, 10News reported.
Police don't know yet if the Toyota had been hit by rocks. The two teenagers in it, described as 16- to 17-year-old Latinos, got away and were last seen heading south on Linda Vista Road.
Bob Fromme of Performance Archery in San Diego said crossbows can do considerable damage. "It's not a self-defense weapon," he said. "It's a recreational-type weapon. Sometimes people do things they're not supposed to. They get hit with baseball bats and maybe stabbed with steak knives. But that's not what this was designed for."
Police don't know what type of crossbow was used, but Fromme told 10News they can fire an arrow at more than 350 feet per second and hit a 4- to 6-inch circle from 60 yards away. As for people getting shot with crossbows, Hassen said, "I've been doing this for well over 20 years, and this is the only the second time I've ever seen anybody shot with a crossbow. It's very unusual." Fromme agreed, and added, "Archery's not meant to be shooting people." The name of the boy who was shot is not being released.
http://www.10news.com/news/29025774/detail.html
It really needs to be emphasized that all parties involved were 16-17 years old.
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On August 31 2011 15:50 ShadeR wrote: If the guys who shot the crossbow were of close age with rockboy would people react in a similar way to beast master casey smashing up that ratty kid?
Yes. Attempted murder is not a solution to anything.
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I should have just closed this from the outset. Closing it now.
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