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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 31 2011 06:17 GMT
#381
On August 31 2011 15:16 Fission wrote:
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On August 31 2011 15:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 31 2011 15:14 Fission wrote:
So many clueless, self-righteously moral whiteknights in this thread. If you can't understand that the reason this is amusing is because of the absurdity of it being a crossbow, fired from a moving car, and not the fact that some kid who was trying to kill innocent people on a highway by throwing rocks at their moving vehicles was hurt, then you are retarded. And by the way, if you're traveling at highway speed, and a large rock hits your windshield, it's extremely dangerous. The violence isn't funny, it being a crossbow is. If it was a bow and arrow, it would be even funnier.


The problem is the people in this thread -- and there are plenty -- going "The kid deserved what he got!" and applauding the man's decision to attempt to murder a child. Stop trying to rationalize it.

PS: he wasn't travelling at highway speed, read the article.


Rationalize what? The fact that I find it funny? I don't need to rationalize that - I simply find it so.


Going to murder someone with silly string, I hope I have everyone in this thread's support.
Remember Violet.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 31 2011 06:18 GMT
#382
At first, I laughed really hard... the story is just so absurd. Then I felt like a horrible person, because I just laughed at two incidents that could kill people.

Then I read that no one was injured, and felt better about myself.
Flanagan
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States166 Posts
August 31 2011 06:19 GMT
#383
On August 31 2011 15:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 15:14 Fission wrote:
So many clueless, self-righteously moral whiteknights in this thread. If you can't understand that the reason this is amusing is because of the absurdity of it being a crossbow, fired from a moving car, and not the fact that some kid who was trying to kill innocent people on a highway by throwing rocks at their moving vehicles was hurt, then you are retarded. And by the way, if you're traveling at highway speed, and a large rock hits your windshield, it's extremely dangerous. The violence isn't funny, it being a crossbow is. If it was a bow and arrow, it would be even funnier.


The problem is the people in this thread -- and there are plenty -- going "The kid deserved what he got!" and applauding the man's decision to attempt to murder a child. Stop trying to rationalize it. Laughing at a guy using a crossbow for anything because you're disconnected from the situation is okay. Rooting for this kind of thing to happen is not.

PS: he wasn't travelling at highway speed, read the article.


I think people see it differently because the kid isn't actually dead... they get the idea that Oh! An adult actually did something on their own without calling the police about a kid vandalizing MY cars! Awesome!...

... if that kid were dead, it'd be a whole different story with different opinions, and the chance of death was, however improbable, still possible...

Part of me is saying good job, but I'd never want to actually wish someone else harm for doing something stupid like throwing a rock at a car.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 31 2011 06:19 GMT
#384
On August 31 2011 15:18 iCanada wrote:
At first, I laughed really hard... the story is just so absurd. Then I felt like a horrible person, because I just laughed at two incidents that could kill people.

Then I read that no one was injured, and felt better about myself.


Have a crossbow bolt stuck into your abdomen after it was projected from a moving vehicle is most definitely an injury. Probably a very painful one too.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
August 31 2011 06:19 GMT
#385
On August 31 2011 15:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 31 2011 15:03 Xevious wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:46 Doppelganger wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:37 101toss wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:36 FragKrag wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On one hand, I was kind of amused

Pretty much sums it up for me lol.


User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this was bannable o_O


because kwark doesn't believe this is funny

I don't understand why that is bannable


Because the use of deadly force is not funny and should not be encouraged like that.

On August 31 2011 14:40 Tippereth wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:39 Caloooomi wrote:
Made me giggle as it's such a surreal response to the act. Saying that, if it were a gun it would be a completely different story - don't understand how there were no arrests though.

Well, that's the point, isn't it? Nobody's laughing at the act of violence, they're laughing at the absurdity of it being a crossbow.

This pretty sums up my opinion of the general theme of peoples' reactions in this thread. Believe it or not, this forum isn't populated by a bunch of immoral assholes who take pleasure in other peoples' suffering. The funny part is, as quoted, the absurdity of it being a crossbow of all things, and the concept of someone carrying a crossbow around for self defense as apposed to something more conventional. No one laughed at the fact that a kid was injured, and little to no one would've sided with the shooter had it not been for the fact that he was using a crossbow.
How does a crossbow change the morality of siding with the shooter? What if he had a sword? A machete? A switchblade? A pistol? What if he had gotten out of his car and strangled the child with a rubber chicken?

There were plenty of people in this thread saying things like "The kid got what was coming to him", or that he "deserved" it. The absurdity of the weapon, or humour that you find therein, doesn't change the fact that the shooter assaulted a minor with a deadly weapon. Siding with the shooter has nothing to do with what weapon he used, as he still meant to cause grievous harm and possibly death to the child.

There were plenty of people laughing that the kid was injured, and arguing that it was right and commendable that he was injured, and that the shooter should be lauded for his efforts. His choice of weapon doesn't change his actions, and doesn't change what people represent when they side with the shooter and commend him.

(I'm also not commenting on the people who find the situation absurd, or funny. I don't really care about them. I'm talking about the people I was arguing with, who in fact did applaud the efforts of the shooter, whose actions remain the same, regardless of weapon)


Well, if you're gonna talk about intent, what motive did the kid have to throw rocks at moving cars? Did he not know what he was doing? Or maybe the kid was trying to cause grievous harm and possibly death to his victims.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
August 31 2011 06:19 GMT
#386
On August 31 2011 15:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 15:16 Fission wrote:
On August 31 2011 15:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 31 2011 15:14 Fission wrote:
So many clueless, self-righteously moral whiteknights in this thread. If you can't understand that the reason this is amusing is because of the absurdity of it being a crossbow, fired from a moving car, and not the fact that some kid who was trying to kill innocent people on a highway by throwing rocks at their moving vehicles was hurt, then you are retarded. And by the way, if you're traveling at highway speed, and a large rock hits your windshield, it's extremely dangerous. The violence isn't funny, it being a crossbow is. If it was a bow and arrow, it would be even funnier.


The problem is the people in this thread -- and there are plenty -- going "The kid deserved what he got!" and applauding the man's decision to attempt to murder a child. Stop trying to rationalize it.

PS: he wasn't travelling at highway speed, read the article.


Rationalize what? The fact that I find it funny? I don't need to rationalize that - I simply find it so.


Going to murder someone with silly string, I hope I have everyone in this thread's support.


You have my support. I hope that the news article reads "Boy taunts other boy on internet regarding boy throwing rocks at car and getting crossbowed, gets garroted by silly string", and I hope it spawns a thread as idiotic as this one.
TidusX.Yuna
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States239 Posts
August 31 2011 06:20 GMT
#387
I'm curious as to the age of the "boy". In the article it says the shooters were juveniles. It would make a lot more sense if, say, the crossbowman was around the same age as the rock throwers. Either way it's wrong, but it seems like a lot of people are under the impression it's an older man shooting an 8 year old. Which it could be, but who knows.
Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality!
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 31 2011 06:22 GMT
#388
On August 31 2011 15:19 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 15:18 iCanada wrote:
At first, I laughed really hard... the story is just so absurd. Then I felt like a horrible person, because I just laughed at two incidents that could kill people.

Then I read that no one was injured, and felt better about myself.


Have a crossbow bolt stuck into your abdomen after it was projected from a moving vehicle is most definitely an injury. Probably a very painful one too.


Well obviously, but seriously hurt I mean. Like the kid isn't in serious condition in the hospital.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 31 2011 06:22 GMT
#389
Crazy story, I mean its just weird as hell....A crossbow? Really who has that just sitting in their car. I guess its the same kind of crazy person who would shoot at a freaking kid for throwing rocks. Damn people are crazy. I know the kid was being an asshole for doing that (plus it could cause a crash) but seriously? Way to crazily overreact. I'm just thinking "why?" Why throw rocks at cars (seriously even as a kid I knew that doing that was both assholish and dangerous) and Why would it be worth possibly killing someone over? The kid deserved a scolding/punishment from his parents not a crossbow bolt to his chest. WTF is with people I know we like to think we are more "civilized" then people of the past but we really aren't. We just have greater technology but human behavior will always comedown to careless disregard for others (when you look at humanity as a whole).
Never Knows Best.
LRObot
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
August 31 2011 06:24 GMT
#390
I live vicariously through our Ghost Crossbowman Hero.

Feelgood story TBQH.
Never say die
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
August 31 2011 06:25 GMT
#391
On August 31 2011 15:17 HereticSaint wrote:
The response from "people like you" would be exactly the same if he went and beat the shit out of the kid. You're wrong and yes, if there was a kid who was constantly throwing rocks at my car and the parents weren't making serious progress to stop it and paying for any and all repairs to my car including potential time lost from work and having to deal with that bullshit I would beat the snot out of the kid.

Also, a child with a gun is still a person with a gun just like a child with a rock is still a person with a rock. Maybe he shouldn't be using weapons, or would it have been better if I started chucking rocks back at his head?

I'm sure you never did anything stupid at all when you where a kid? Fact is it wouldn't suprise me if you've done a lot of stupid still as a grown up, being that you still seem to reason as a kid. If a kid was throwing rocks at me, or at a car that I had, then I'd go to his parents, and if that didn't work, I'd go to the police. To beat the crap out of the kid or throw rocks back, that's what someone would do who still thinks as a 8 year old.


Also I'm kind of disgusted with all people here saying the crowbowman is a hero, as it ended up now one could say that the kid should suit itself (lets not think about the fact that he probably has gone through some real shit in his life to start behaving like this). But the shooter could by no way have any idea that he wouldn't hit the kid on someplace else, giving the kid life long injuries or even killing him.

For me, this is a story of a kid who's remarkably stupid, getting hurt by a grown up who is way more stupid and who should be jailed up.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 31 2011 06:25 GMT
#392
Well this is funny, glad he lived of course.

The title did made me laugh a little =)
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
August 31 2011 06:25 GMT
#393
On August 31 2011 15:04 towers wrote:
Vigilante justice is wrong, crossbow or rock.

And honestly if I had to choose between the two wrongs, I would rather be neighbors to a kid who throws rocks at cars then be a neighbor to an adult who shoots kids with a crossbow.

Get some perspective people.


Here's some perspective;

http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/57622/Mogelijk-misdrijf-bij-ongeluk-Best.html (Dutch article)

In this case a woman died because idiots like this kid were throwing rocks from a fly-over. This is not a unique case, I could probably find you a dozen similar ones where people in the car got injured in the past few years.

I don't know if the guy was aiming to kill, but the article also doesn't mention what size rocks the kid was throwing either. As far as I'm concerned both should have been arrested.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 06:32:44
August 31 2011 06:28 GMT
#394
On August 31 2011 15:22 Slaughter wrote:
Crazy story, I mean its just weird as hell....A crossbow? Really who has that just sitting in their car. I guess its the same kind of crazy person who would shoot at a freaking kid for throwing rocks. Damn people are crazy. I know the kid was being an asshole for doing that (plus it could cause a crash) but seriously? Way to crazily overreact. I'm just thinking "why?" Why throw rocks at cars (seriously even as a kid I knew that doing that was both assholish and dangerous) and Why would it be worth possibly killing someone over? The kid deserved a scolding/punishment from his parents not a crossbow bolt to his chest. WTF is with people I know we like to think we are more "civilized" then people of the past but we really aren't. We just have greater technology but human behavior will always comedown to careless disregard for others (when you look at humanity as a whole).


I'd like to think the kid would deserve more than a scolding from his parents for recklessly endangering the lives (and property) of others for his own amusement, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, odds are the guy is not crazy and just seriously overreacted for whatever reason. Yes, he deserves to punished to the fullest extent of the law, but I don't think making a bad decision in the heat of the moment makes him some kind of a deranged psychopath.
BW forever || Thall
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
August 31 2011 06:28 GMT
#395
Its funny. If you do something wrong and suffer a consequence it is funny to other people. Doesn't matter how severe the consequence, other people like to see wrong doers suffer.

If the kid hadn't been doing anything wrong no one would be laughing. Moral of the story. Do wrong things and when it backfires people will laugh.
For the swarm
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 31 2011 06:31 GMT
#396
On August 31 2011 15:19 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 15:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 31 2011 15:03 Xevious wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:46 Doppelganger wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:37 101toss wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:36 FragKrag wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:35 Vei wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:29 Flameling wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On one hand, I was kind of amused

Pretty much sums it up for me lol.


User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this was bannable o_O


because kwark doesn't believe this is funny

I don't understand why that is bannable


Because the use of deadly force is not funny and should not be encouraged like that.

On August 31 2011 14:40 Tippereth wrote:
On August 31 2011 14:39 Caloooomi wrote:
Made me giggle as it's such a surreal response to the act. Saying that, if it were a gun it would be a completely different story - don't understand how there were no arrests though.

Well, that's the point, isn't it? Nobody's laughing at the act of violence, they're laughing at the absurdity of it being a crossbow.

This pretty sums up my opinion of the general theme of peoples' reactions in this thread. Believe it or not, this forum isn't populated by a bunch of immoral assholes who take pleasure in other peoples' suffering. The funny part is, as quoted, the absurdity of it being a crossbow of all things, and the concept of someone carrying a crossbow around for self defense as apposed to something more conventional. No one laughed at the fact that a kid was injured, and little to no one would've sided with the shooter had it not been for the fact that he was using a crossbow.
How does a crossbow change the morality of siding with the shooter? What if he had a sword? A machete? A switchblade? A pistol? What if he had gotten out of his car and strangled the child with a rubber chicken?

There were plenty of people in this thread saying things like "The kid got what was coming to him", or that he "deserved" it. The absurdity of the weapon, or humour that you find therein, doesn't change the fact that the shooter assaulted a minor with a deadly weapon. Siding with the shooter has nothing to do with what weapon he used, as he still meant to cause grievous harm and possibly death to the child.

There were plenty of people laughing that the kid was injured, and arguing that it was right and commendable that he was injured, and that the shooter should be lauded for his efforts. His choice of weapon doesn't change his actions, and doesn't change what people represent when they side with the shooter and commend him.

(I'm also not commenting on the people who find the situation absurd, or funny. I don't really care about them. I'm talking about the people I was arguing with, who in fact did applaud the efforts of the shooter, whose actions remain the same, regardless of weapon)


Well, if you're gonna talk about intent, what motive did the kid have to throw rocks at moving cars? Did he not know what he was doing? Or maybe the kid was trying to cause grievous harm and possibly death to his victims.
Did I say that the child should be absolved from any guilt in throwing rocks at cars?
On August 31 2011 14:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 31 2011 14:49 applejuice wrote:
You guys realize it IS possible to kill someone with a rock, right? How is that harmless kid stuff? It's summer, and lots of car windows are going to be wide open. At the very least, you WILL cause injury if you throw a rock at someone.

The crossbow bit is sick, but to absolve the kid of all responsibility is ridiculous. I doubt they will try very hard to find the guy who did this, because they know if they charge that guy, they'll probably have to charge the kid as well.

How would you react if someone threw a rock at you? Not shot the kid, but it's pretty damn scary, is it not?
In general, people aren't trying to absolve the child from any sort of guilt. He is an idiot for throwing rocks at a car, and would hopefully get charged for doing something illegal. Stating that the guy who shot the child with a crossbow is despicable and grossly over-reacted is not the same as saying that the child shouldn't have gotten in trouble for throwing rocks.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the opposite. I think he should be charged with whatever illegalities he was committing. His actions shouldn't give you the right to attempt to murder him, however.

So, we get back to the original argument of the thread. If someone is doing something illegal, that has the potential to harm you or others, or cause damage to property, are you entitled, and in the right, to take violent counter-measures against them?

If you saw someone speeding down the road, or driving erratically in a way which had the potential to cause harm to you or other drivers, would you get out of your car and shoot them if you were both stopped at the same red light?

This basically comes down to the question of whether you would allow and engage in vigilantism, or not. If you think the shooter is in the right, then you agree with said vigilantism, but also with the use of disproportionate violence in the administering of it.

I'm also going to bed now, so don't expect any answers from me for several hours.
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
August 31 2011 06:31 GMT
#397
On August 31 2011 15:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
Its funny. If you do something wrong and suffer a consequence it is funny to other people. Doesn't matter how severe the consequence, other people like to see wrong doers suffer.

If the kid hadn't been doing anything wrong no one would be laughing. Moral of the story. Do wrong things and when it backfires people will laugh.


I don't think anyone would laugh if they ran him over with the car. The only funny thing is that they used a crossbow. The kid probably deserved what he got seeing as he isn't dead or seriously injured (I'm sure they'd report that if he was).
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
August 31 2011 06:31 GMT
#398
Crossbowman would have a very easy time convincing a jury of temporary insanity. Say he was on a hunting trip with a friend. Some brat throws a rock at his car while they're driving. The selfish, reckless, violent act of the kid drives him into a high-powered road-rage, which is a very well documented syndrome. He grabs his crossbow just to fire a shot to scare the kid and teach him a lesson. But he missed. Oops. No problem, I'd let him off. **** that kid, seriously. If you want to get shot at by a stranger, there is probably no better way of going about it than what that kid was doing.
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Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
August 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#399
Who the fuck carries a crossbow around ready to shoot?
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
August 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#400
i keep laughing so hard at the word "crossbowman" being used in relevance to an event that occurred just recently.

honestly i think the rock throwing is more dangerous, people die from that all the time. what are the chances of killing a kid with a cross bow out of a moving car, less id say.
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