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On August 28 2011 11:20 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. Arguing with god huh? Not that I am a big believer but god clearly allows the death penalty. Look at this bible thing he wrote, it clearly allows death penalty.
For a minute there, I thought that the Bible was written by, you know. People.
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On August 28 2011 12:50 Nightfall.589 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:20 Fenrax wrote:On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. Arguing with god huh? Not that I am a big believer but god clearly allows the death penalty. Look at this bible thing he wrote, it clearly allows death penalty. For a minute there, I thought that the Bible was written by, you know. People.
Yeah, and read some of the stuff his chosen people that wrote it got encouraged to do. Hell, if you believe in the Christian god, according to his book, he kind of came the closest the world has ever seen to succesful genocide with that flood of his.
Or there's all the fun when they left Egypt, Sodom and Gammorah, all kinds of fun massacres.
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did you read about the parents who killed their kid by whipping them for 7 hrs?
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I am at a loss of words.
I can say that i am angry, frusturated and other emotions similar to those about this situation, but I am at a loss of words.
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On August 28 2011 12:11 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 14:14 bloodmeat wrote:On August 27 2011 14:05 CryingCow wrote:
does the death penalty still exist in texas? Fuck yeah it does. I don't mean to take it lightly. I was born and raised in Texas and still live there today and I absolutely agree with the death penalty. Some people can't change, some people are absolute monsters. It doesn't matter to me if they have a mental deformity that causes them to act the way they do or if they're just genuinely evil. Some people need to be removed from this planet. They're not going to change, they are fucked up in the head. I understand that anyone could be subject to a mental deformity that causes them to behave in ways that go against our most deepest beliefs as a society. That's life. It sucks, it may seem unfair, but that's how it is. People need to be removed. If I was a sadistic monster I would want to be removed from this planet as well. If anyone has a problem with that feel free to take it up with god, mother earth or whoever the fuck you feel is responsible, but it isn't me. I didn't create the monsters, but I will see to their destruction. Do you know anything about the death penalty? Who are you to say that killing is wrong if you then go and kill someone? That is something known as hypocrisy. You sound like a vigilante (which is not a compliment) who has serious problems. Plus, morals aside (which I believe is the important reason why the death penalty is so wrong, but if you disagree then this might make you think otherwise), here's some interesting facts: http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penaltyDid you know that the death penalty actually costs more then imprisoning a person for life? I remember when I heard that I was pretty amazed. Also, you made a distinction, so I'm just wondering what other people think, are there people who are just "evil" but don't have something messed up in their head? EDIT: On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. You can make a hypocrisy argument for every kind of punishment, then.
Maybe I'm crazy, but there is a serious difference from locking a person up and from taking away their life. Is it just me or does everyone deserve a right to life at the very least, and if you're going to
What reason can you possibly have for killing another human being? It costs more in most cases, any form of killing is an atrocity that should be avoided at all costs, and on top of all that, it's irreversible. Give me one good reason for capital punishment, I'd love to hear it. There is nothing better about it as opposed to the alternative; even if you're alright with it morally, it isn't even better financially.
I don't understand it personally, I feel like it's a way of the past that needs to be abolished. If you kill somebody, there is no return, and let's be honest, America's legal system (while I support it) is not 100% accurate. If you can't guarantee accuracy then there shouldn't be a punishment as definitive and unforgiving as capital punishment.
I just looked this up after typing in "Wrongful Death Penalty" into Google: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/14/opinion/wrongful-death-penalty.html
Since 1973 approximately 6,000 people have been sentenced to death in the United States. The report noted that the 69 who have been released from death row during that period represent a little more than 1 out of every 100 prisoners sentenced to death. That is a hideous error rate for so horrible a punishment.
If 1 out of every 100 people sentenced to death are found innocent BEFORE their execution, I bet there are cases where people are executed despite being innocent. If people who are innocent are being killed, then you have a serious problem.
I'm all for punishing these people, but the death penalty (in my opinion) is wrong, and I personally have never heard a good argument for it. I'd be delighted to hear one.
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I feel a littlebit sick after reading that
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i really wish this never happened and i didn't read that.
these persons are monsters, and should be treated as such.
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On August 28 2011 13:09 The Final Boss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2011 12:11 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 14:14 bloodmeat wrote:On August 27 2011 14:05 CryingCow wrote:
does the death penalty still exist in texas? Fuck yeah it does. I don't mean to take it lightly. I was born and raised in Texas and still live there today and I absolutely agree with the death penalty. Some people can't change, some people are absolute monsters. It doesn't matter to me if they have a mental deformity that causes them to act the way they do or if they're just genuinely evil. Some people need to be removed from this planet. They're not going to change, they are fucked up in the head. I understand that anyone could be subject to a mental deformity that causes them to behave in ways that go against our most deepest beliefs as a society. That's life. It sucks, it may seem unfair, but that's how it is. People need to be removed. If I was a sadistic monster I would want to be removed from this planet as well. If anyone has a problem with that feel free to take it up with god, mother earth or whoever the fuck you feel is responsible, but it isn't me. I didn't create the monsters, but I will see to their destruction. Do you know anything about the death penalty? Who are you to say that killing is wrong if you then go and kill someone? That is something known as hypocrisy. You sound like a vigilante (which is not a compliment) who has serious problems. Plus, morals aside (which I believe is the important reason why the death penalty is so wrong, but if you disagree then this might make you think otherwise), here's some interesting facts: http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penaltyDid you know that the death penalty actually costs more then imprisoning a person for life? I remember when I heard that I was pretty amazed. Also, you made a distinction, so I'm just wondering what other people think, are there people who are just "evil" but don't have something messed up in their head? EDIT: On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. You can make a hypocrisy argument for every kind of punishment, then. Maybe I'm crazy, but there is a serious difference from locking a person up and from taking away their life. Is it just me or does everyone deserve a right to life at the very least, and if you're going to What reason can you possibly have for killing another human being? It costs more in most cases, any form of killing is an atrocity that should be avoided at all costs, and on top of all that, it's irreversible. Give me one good reason for capital punishment, I'd love to hear it. There is nothing better about it as opposed to the alternative; even if you're alright with it morally, it isn't even better financially. I don't understand it personally, I feel like it's a way of the past that needs to be abolished. If you kill somebody, there is no return, and let's be honest, America's legal system (while I support it) is not 100% accurate. If you can't guarantee accuracy then there shouldn't be a punishment as definitive and unforgiving as capital punishment. I just looked this up after typing in "Wrongful Death Penalty" into Google: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/14/opinion/wrongful-death-penalty.htmlSince 1973 approximately 6,000 people have been sentenced to death in the United States. The report noted that the 69 who have been released from death row during that period represent a little more than 1 out of every 100 prisoners sentenced to death. That is a hideous error rate for so horrible a punishment. If 1 out of every 100 people sentenced to death are found innocent BEFORE their execution, I bet there are cases where people are executed despite being innocent. If people who are innocent are being killed, then you have a serious problem. I'm all for punishing these people, but the death penalty (in my opinion) is wrong, and I personally have never heard a good argument for it. I'd be delighted to hear one.
No, not everyone has a right to life after a certain point.
Do I win something?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler for instance.
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fucking evil parents wtf, this is so disgusting.
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On August 28 2011 13:23 NathanSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 13:09 The Final Boss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2011 12:11 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 14:14 bloodmeat wrote:On August 27 2011 14:05 CryingCow wrote:
does the death penalty still exist in texas? Fuck yeah it does. I don't mean to take it lightly. I was born and raised in Texas and still live there today and I absolutely agree with the death penalty. Some people can't change, some people are absolute monsters. It doesn't matter to me if they have a mental deformity that causes them to act the way they do or if they're just genuinely evil. Some people need to be removed from this planet. They're not going to change, they are fucked up in the head. I understand that anyone could be subject to a mental deformity that causes them to behave in ways that go against our most deepest beliefs as a society. That's life. It sucks, it may seem unfair, but that's how it is. People need to be removed. If I was a sadistic monster I would want to be removed from this planet as well. If anyone has a problem with that feel free to take it up with god, mother earth or whoever the fuck you feel is responsible, but it isn't me. I didn't create the monsters, but I will see to their destruction. Do you know anything about the death penalty? Who are you to say that killing is wrong if you then go and kill someone? That is something known as hypocrisy. You sound like a vigilante (which is not a compliment) who has serious problems. Plus, morals aside (which I believe is the important reason why the death penalty is so wrong, but if you disagree then this might make you think otherwise), here's some interesting facts: http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penaltyDid you know that the death penalty actually costs more then imprisoning a person for life? I remember when I heard that I was pretty amazed. Also, you made a distinction, so I'm just wondering what other people think, are there people who are just "evil" but don't have something messed up in their head? EDIT: On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. You can make a hypocrisy argument for every kind of punishment, then. Maybe I'm crazy, but there is a serious difference from locking a person up and from taking away their life. Is it just me or does everyone deserve a right to life at the very least, and if you're going to What reason can you possibly have for killing another human being? It costs more in most cases, any form of killing is an atrocity that should be avoided at all costs, and on top of all that, it's irreversible. Give me one good reason for capital punishment, I'd love to hear it. There is nothing better about it as opposed to the alternative; even if you're alright with it morally, it isn't even better financially. I don't understand it personally, I feel like it's a way of the past that needs to be abolished. If you kill somebody, there is no return, and let's be honest, America's legal system (while I support it) is not 100% accurate. If you can't guarantee accuracy then there shouldn't be a punishment as definitive and unforgiving as capital punishment. I just looked this up after typing in "Wrongful Death Penalty" into Google: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/14/opinion/wrongful-death-penalty.htmlSince 1973 approximately 6,000 people have been sentenced to death in the United States. The report noted that the 69 who have been released from death row during that period represent a little more than 1 out of every 100 prisoners sentenced to death. That is a hideous error rate for so horrible a punishment. If 1 out of every 100 people sentenced to death are found innocent BEFORE their execution, I bet there are cases where people are executed despite being innocent. If people who are innocent are being killed, then you have a serious problem. I'm all for punishing these people, but the death penalty (in my opinion) is wrong, and I personally have never heard a good argument for it. I'd be delighted to hear one. No, not everyone has a right to life after a certain point. Do I win something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler for instance.
Newsflash, it's 2011 not 1431.
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Terrible story, yet when you see both parents everything makes perfect sense... Probably oblivious to the fact you need water to survive, because they don't drink water, and beer has water in it... fucking retarded rednecks.
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On August 28 2011 13:42 k1mjee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 13:23 NathanSC wrote:On August 28 2011 13:09 The Final Boss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2011 12:11 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:On August 27 2011 14:14 bloodmeat wrote:On August 27 2011 14:05 CryingCow wrote:
does the death penalty still exist in texas? Fuck yeah it does. I don't mean to take it lightly. I was born and raised in Texas and still live there today and I absolutely agree with the death penalty. Some people can't change, some people are absolute monsters. It doesn't matter to me if they have a mental deformity that causes them to act the way they do or if they're just genuinely evil. Some people need to be removed from this planet. They're not going to change, they are fucked up in the head. I understand that anyone could be subject to a mental deformity that causes them to behave in ways that go against our most deepest beliefs as a society. That's life. It sucks, it may seem unfair, but that's how it is. People need to be removed. If I was a sadistic monster I would want to be removed from this planet as well. If anyone has a problem with that feel free to take it up with god, mother earth or whoever the fuck you feel is responsible, but it isn't me. I didn't create the monsters, but I will see to their destruction. Do you know anything about the death penalty? Who are you to say that killing is wrong if you then go and kill someone? That is something known as hypocrisy. You sound like a vigilante (which is not a compliment) who has serious problems. Plus, morals aside (which I believe is the important reason why the death penalty is so wrong, but if you disagree then this might make you think otherwise), here's some interesting facts: http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penaltyDid you know that the death penalty actually costs more then imprisoning a person for life? I remember when I heard that I was pretty amazed. Also, you made a distinction, so I'm just wondering what other people think, are there people who are just "evil" but don't have something messed up in their head? EDIT: On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.
How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.
I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them. Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy. You can make a hypocrisy argument for every kind of punishment, then. Maybe I'm crazy, but there is a serious difference from locking a person up and from taking away their life. Is it just me or does everyone deserve a right to life at the very least, and if you're going to What reason can you possibly have for killing another human being? It costs more in most cases, any form of killing is an atrocity that should be avoided at all costs, and on top of all that, it's irreversible. Give me one good reason for capital punishment, I'd love to hear it. There is nothing better about it as opposed to the alternative; even if you're alright with it morally, it isn't even better financially. I don't understand it personally, I feel like it's a way of the past that needs to be abolished. If you kill somebody, there is no return, and let's be honest, America's legal system (while I support it) is not 100% accurate. If you can't guarantee accuracy then there shouldn't be a punishment as definitive and unforgiving as capital punishment. I just looked this up after typing in "Wrongful Death Penalty" into Google: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/14/opinion/wrongful-death-penalty.htmlSince 1973 approximately 6,000 people have been sentenced to death in the United States. The report noted that the 69 who have been released from death row during that period represent a little more than 1 out of every 100 prisoners sentenced to death. That is a hideous error rate for so horrible a punishment. If 1 out of every 100 people sentenced to death are found innocent BEFORE their execution, I bet there are cases where people are executed despite being innocent. If people who are innocent are being killed, then you have a serious problem. I'm all for punishing these people, but the death penalty (in my opinion) is wrong, and I personally have never heard a good argument for it. I'd be delighted to hear one. No, not everyone has a right to life after a certain point. Do I win something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler for instance. Newsflash, it's 2011 not 1431.
Sorry, would you like a more recent serial killer? I don't think the question was in context to time period (read: it wasn't). The question was simply if there was ever a reason for killing another human being.
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On August 28 2011 11:15 cursor wrote:
Have you guys read about what dieing from dehydration is like?
Your eyeballs get so dry, you cant blink. You have to keep them closed and wait to die. Your throat cracks and it becomes painful to breathe. I read about it once.
They should do that to the parents.
I've never been close to dehydration, but I know how much it sucks to go over a day without water. It hurts...
Damn I hope Texas court gives those parents a REAL punishment for this shit.
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i can't help but imagine the child's mindset as he was getting weaker and weaker
'am i really going to die this way? i cannot believe this, i'm going to pass away very soon.'
it's one of the worse ways to go i'd imagine in all honesty....when you can feel it every bit of the way
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I think its best i dont say what i believe his parents should get as a punishment, these "everyone should have a life, even those who take away life from others" activists would get mad at me
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my god the parents are such fat fucks.......................
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I don't know how the criminal law in the US works, but for Austria it would make sense.
Murder requires intent - meaning, if some lawyer/psychologist could prove that the parents were too dumb/stupid to realize that their actions could indeed KILL (not just injure/harm) the child, then the murder-charges would have to be dropped!
Going with injury seems to be a 100% safe way, and since what they did was a real atrocity, I have no doubts in my mind that they'll receive a high punishment.
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On August 28 2011 18:03 Bub wrote:
my god the parents are such fat fucks.......................
just true... -.- getting just mad everytime I read an article about this case :X
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Times like these make me wish Dexter was a real person.
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