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LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 29 2011 12:48 GMT
#321
They were cruel but the kid could've sneaked a few yards to the faucet and drank some water while his parents were sleeping, they couldn't have stayed awake 5 days.
The spice must flow
Tryxtira
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden572 Posts
August 29 2011 12:49 GMT
#322
People like this just makes me so angry and sad. I feel ashamed to admit it, but I just want these people to be physically punished. I know this is insane, but the hate I feel against such sick individuals is so intense. They most likely need some sort of help since they both have to be mentally disturbed to commit such a horrible act. The rational part of myself feel that they should be put in a mental hospital, the emotional part wants to put them in a prison and turn off the cameras, give the guards a day off and let the mob wreck havoc.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
August 29 2011 12:53 GMT
#323
Stuff like this is so sad and utterly disgusting. I hope the law system gives them what they deserve.

But seriously, how could this happen?
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ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
August 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#324
On August 28 2011 13:09 The Final Boss wrote:
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On August 28 2011 12:11 Dfgj wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 The Final Boss wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:14 bloodmeat wrote:
On August 27 2011 14:05 CryingCow wrote:
does the death penalty still exist in texas?


Fuck yeah it does. I don't mean to take it lightly. I was born and raised in Texas and still live there today and I absolutely agree with the death penalty. Some people can't change, some people are absolute monsters. It doesn't matter to me if they have a mental deformity that causes them to act the way they do or if they're just genuinely evil. Some people need to be removed from this planet. They're not going to change, they are fucked up in the head.

I understand that anyone could be subject to a mental deformity that causes them to behave in ways that go against our most deepest beliefs as a society. That's life. It sucks, it may seem unfair, but that's how it is. People need to be removed.

If I was a sadistic monster I would want to be removed from this planet as well.

If anyone has a problem with that feel free to take it up with god, mother earth or whoever the fuck you feel is responsible, but it isn't me. I didn't create the monsters, but I will see to their destruction.

Do you know anything about the death penalty?

Who are you to say that killing is wrong if you then go and kill someone? That is something known as hypocrisy. You sound like a vigilante (which is not a compliment) who has serious problems.

Plus, morals aside (which I believe is the important reason why the death penalty is so wrong, but if you disagree then this might make you think otherwise), here's some interesting facts: http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty
Did you know that the death penalty actually costs more then imprisoning a person for life? I remember when I heard that I was pretty amazed.

Also, you made a distinction, so I'm just wondering what other people think, are there people who are just "evil" but don't have something messed up in their head?

EDIT:
On August 27 2011 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Infuriating indeed.

How is that only "injury to a child"? This is murder by any means. Dehydrating someone for so long has the same expected result as shooting a bullet in his head. Serious injury guaranteed and 99% death. And malice can't be denied either.

I hope they change the charge to "murder". I am also glad that this happened in texas because anything but the chair would be too good for them.

Read what you just wrote. Life is too good for them? Who are you to make that distinction. They deserved to be locked away forever without even a chance at seeing sunlight, but who made you god. Who gave you the power to decide who lives and dies. That is pure hypocrisy.

You can make a hypocrisy argument for every kind of punishment, then.

Maybe I'm crazy, but there is a serious difference from locking a person up and from taking away their life. Is it just me or does everyone deserve a right to life at the very least, and if you're going to

What reason can you possibly have for killing another human being? It costs more in most cases, any form of killing is an atrocity that should be avoided at all costs, and on top of all that, it's irreversible. Give me one good reason for capital punishment, I'd love to hear it. There is nothing better about it as opposed to the alternative; even if you're alright with it morally, it isn't even better financially.

I don't understand it personally, I feel like it's a way of the past that needs to be abolished. If you kill somebody, there is no return, and let's be honest, America's legal system (while I support it) is not 100% accurate. If you can't guarantee accuracy then there shouldn't be a punishment as definitive and unforgiving as capital punishment.

I just looked this up after typing in "Wrongful Death Penalty" into Google: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/14/opinion/wrongful-death-penalty.html
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Since 1973 approximately 6,000 people have been sentenced to death in the United States. The report noted that the 69 who have been released from death row during that period represent a little more than 1 out of every 100 prisoners sentenced to death. That is a hideous error rate for so horrible a punishment.

If 1 out of every 100 people sentenced to death are found innocent BEFORE their execution, I bet there are cases where people are executed despite being innocent. If people who are innocent are being killed, then you have a serious problem.

I'm all for punishing these people, but the death penalty (in my opinion) is wrong, and I personally have never heard a good argument for it. I'd be delighted to hear one.


i dont think this thread is about pro/con death penalty, so do consider taking the political/moral debate somewhere else.

pretty horrifying case of stupidity at the least..
If they didn't blatantly plan to kill the child this would be a extreme case of uneducated people thinking that keeping the kid from drinking stops the bedweting and acts as a punishment
dig dig dig dig dig dig die!
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
August 29 2011 13:29 GMT
#325
On August 29 2011 21:48 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
They were cruel but the kid could've sneaked a few yards to the faucet and drank some water while his parents were sleeping, they couldn't have stayed awake 5 days.


Are you serious?
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
August 29 2011 13:37 GMT
#326
They should do the same to the parents imo.
Respect my authoritah!!
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
August 29 2011 13:50 GMT
#327
I don't see the point of threads like these. Most of us know there's an ugly side of the world, and it doesn't help anyone to be reminded everyday of negative things. It would be much more productive to post happy/beautiful news instead because that can only lead to a better, happier day for everyone.
CarlaBruni
Profile Joined August 2011
61 Posts
August 29 2011 13:51 GMT
#328
an eye for an eye anything else is just unfair
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
August 29 2011 16:25 GMT
#329
I can only imagine that dehydration is very painful so I don't understand what they must have done to force the kid NOT to find some way to drink. I agree, put these people in a glass box and put them on live t.v. so we can watch them eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches without water until they die.
Being weak is a choice.
Nqsty
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
August 29 2011 16:59 GMT
#330
You guys are so narrow minded its insane, CLEARLY they didn't want to kill the kid, they were just dumb enough to do it by mistake.
No they shouldn't be hung, or suffer the same treatment, they should just rot in jail for a while, it's over for them anyway, their second kid won't ever forgive them, they've just lost all their friends and their entire lives, oh, and not to mention their TEN YEAR OLD SON. I think they'll suffer enough.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 17:03:41
August 29 2011 17:03 GMT
#331
How the fuck could two people have missed the fact that depriving the body of water for only a few days can kill someone?

That is either malicious intent, or an award-winning level of stupid.
macil222
Profile Joined August 2011
United States113 Posts
August 29 2011 17:12 GMT
#332
These articles are just down right depressing.

I'm generally against capital punishment and torture for a multitude of reasons but there are some people who deserve it. This is a case where I would love to see an eye for an eye punishment.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 29 2011 17:41 GMT
#333
So.... sad.... :'(

At least this happened in Texas; we know the difference between right and wrong and aren't afraid to use the justice system to enforce it here.

My only regret is that they will still live long lives with 99 years in prison, and all on my tax dollar's dime.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 29 2011 17:59 GMT
#334
On August 30 2011 01:25 ckw wrote:
I can only imagine that dehydration is very painful so I don't understand what they must have done to force the kid NOT to find some way to drink. I agree, put these people in a glass box and put them on live t.v. so we can watch them eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches without water until they die.
ROFL, best punishment ever!
I <3 Plexa.
SolidusR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States217 Posts
August 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#335
Just a little something to think about for the people saying his instincts should have forced him to run and get water somehow:

When I was about 6, my dad brought me to a client's house where he sat outside and chatted while I stayed inside to play Sega with her much older son and his friend. They were really nice to me right up until I went into their master bedroom to use the toilet in the bathroom there, and they decided it would be funny to lock me in there with them. I tried to escape a few times but they pushed me back and contented themselves with terrifying me and intimidating me until I finally hit one and flew downstairs yelling (my father never took any of it seriously).

I can only imagine how it would feel to be imprisoned like that by your actual father who is much older than a couple young boys. It's incredibly scary and when you're that young it's really hard for the fact to register that your father really doesn't care about you. He was probably too confused and scared to even think about crossing his already horrific family when they have already been this abusive, and I'm sure he didn't think they were going to kill him. This is incredibly tragic

Btw the death penalty costs more than life imprisonment. Just an FYI seeing as you obviously care about the allocation of those tax dollars. The only way around that would be to strip people of a fair appellate process, which I'm sure we can all agree is a bad idea.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#336
How can the death penalty cost more than life imprisonment? *off to google*

It just seems so counterintuitive. The death penalty might cost what...$1k? Food, electricity, guards, etc have to cost more than that over a person's lifetime.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#337
On August 30 2011 01:59 Nqsty wrote:
You guys are so narrow minded its insane, CLEARLY they didn't want to kill the kid, they were just dumb enough to do it by mistake.
No they shouldn't be hung, or suffer the same treatment, they should just rot in jail for a while, it's over for them anyway, their second kid won't ever forgive them, they've just lost all their friends and their entire lives, oh, and not to mention their TEN YEAR OLD SON. I think they'll suffer enough.


If they cared about their ten year old child, they wouldn't of let him go without water for so long. They deserve to rot in jail forever.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:06:38
August 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#338
On August 30 2011 03:03 ensign_lee wrote:
How can the death penalty cost more than life imprisonment? *off to google*

It just seems so counterintuitive. The death penalty might cost what...$1k? Food, electricity, guards, etc have to cost more than that over a person's lifetime.


It's the court costs that makes it so expensive, if they killed an innocent person there would be an incredible amount of backlash.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
August 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#339
I just wanted to say that as a father, I am disgusted and outraged that this happened. It breaks my heart to think that this poor child was put through this.

RIP little guy
Nqsty
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:17:54
August 29 2011 18:14 GMT
#340
On August 30 2011 03:05 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 01:59 Nqsty wrote:
You guys are so narrow minded its insane, CLEARLY they didn't want to kill the kid, they were just dumb enough to do it by mistake.
No they shouldn't be hung, or suffer the same treatment, they should just rot in jail for a while, it's over for them anyway, their second kid won't ever forgive them, they've just lost all their friends and their entire lives, oh, and not to mention their TEN YEAR OLD SON. I think they'll suffer enough.


If they cared about their ten year old child, they wouldn't of let him go without water for so long. They deserve to rot in jail forever.


No, you see thats completely wrong.

Maybe thats how their parents brought them up, and they survived ? Maybe its something that happened a lot back in the days ?

In england until 40 years ago you could get caned to blood in school for insulting the head master of your school, I have pictures of my uncle with his trousers stuck to his butt because of the blood, because he spat on his teachers desk (don't ask me why he did it, he was 12).

That was common punishement back then, and depriving the child from water could very well be a common one in their family, this one just went terribly wrong because they're stupid.
But you're in absolutely no position to judge or assume such arrogant things, trust me they are in the depths of psychological hell because of what they did, do they deserve it ? fuck yes, but saying they don't care or deserve to die is just wrong, really.


Edit: btw, this story really sickens me, and i condemn the act completely, but i'm just saying you need to stay human in these situations.
RIP to the little dude, really.
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