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Carson
Canada820 Posts
On March 21 2011 16:34 DirtYLOu wrote: You still believe that they gonna release LAN ? If they would do so, we would have be playing on LAN already. Just like we should've had chat channels and clan support at realease??  Seriously though, they may or may not come out with it, but this pirate LAN only hurts the product | ||
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Quixxotik
United States54 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:06 Dont Panic wrote: They had lan in the alpha client. Blizzard was being greedy and just wanted to control things. They are not trying to promote esports, they are simply trying to profit from it (trying to kespa and mbc all those fees LOL). Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't Bllizzard have a right to profit from SC2? You know, considering they spent years making it? You can't blame them for their actions. They're a business, and it's their job to secure maximum profit. EDIT: Typo. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:46 Carson wrote: Just like we should've had chat channels and clan support at realease?? Seriously though, they may or may not come out with it, but this pirate LAN only hurts the product no. it actually doesn't. power to the community is NEVER A NEGATIVE THING almost all of the greatest things in gaming are a product of the community @Eury i've been trying to get it to test it. but wherever it is hosted is being hammered really badly. i can no longer access the website. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:15 DirtYLOu wrote: And also guys think of leagues like NASL, TSL. Playing without lag... Cuz i don't have to tell u guys that players will play with MASSIVE lags.. Why would LAN capability somehow remove the latency between korea and the us? Do you know anything about routing/latency/computer networks? | ||
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RoL
United States22 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:39 a_flayer wrote: BW had LAN, spawned installs, iccup where you could just download the client instantly and sold 11 million copies, more than any PC game I can think of. I think that says enough. We need LAN for proper offline tournaments, no excuses. Do you have statistical data that shows trends of video game sales with/without LAN? I can tell you right now WoW has more than 12 million subscribers and that has no legal LAN support. As others have said, from the blizzard business standpoint, how does "downloading the client instantly" from iccup sound to them, while they "highly suggest" you to buy the game if you like it? Before starcraft 2 I watched pro starcraft bw for a number of years, and even with LAN, there were slightly fewer technical difficulties occuring throughout a season. That's decent considering SCII is not even a year old, and bw has had plenty of years to sort out all the kinks. I've been to a number of starcraft 2 lans and I can tell you connectivity on blizzard's servers is almost never the case if there was technical difficulty. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:49 MavercK wrote: @Eury i've been trying to get it to test it. but wherever it is hosted is being hammered really badly. i can no longer access the website. Be careful about trojans. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:49 MavercK wrote: no. it actually doesn't. power to the community is NEVER A NEGATIVE THING almost all of the greatest things in gaming are a product of the community @Eury i've been trying to get it to test it. but wherever it is hosted is being hammered really badly. i can no longer access the website. Why do you even need LAN? How many times has battle.net actually been unavailable? The only use for LAN in the age of broadband is tournament finals that are played live and blizz could eventually rent/send a server to be used locally. Something like TSL would still be 100x better to be played on battle.net. | ||
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blop12311
Australia68 Posts
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:54 dakalro wrote: Why do you even need LAN? How many times has battle.net actually been unavailable? The only use for LAN in the age of broadband is tournament finals that are played live and blizz could eventually rent/send a server to be used locally. Something like TSL would still be 100x better to be played on battle.net. stuff like TSL? sure. they would stay online. NASL finals. entire GSL? could definitely benefit from LAN 10 ping instead of 200 ping is an amazing improvement not to mention the modifications and improvements people can make to battle.net. adding features. improving others. if you can't open your eyes to the possibilities well im sad  | ||
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Frozenserpent
United States143 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:53 karpo wrote: Why would LAN capability somehow remove the latency between korea and the us? Do you know anything about routing/latency/computer networks? With LAN capability you are also introducing the capability of a direct connection between computers. In dota, programs like LC and DC allowed you to network computers through the internet directly, bypassing the blizzard servers. Naturally, this reduces a significant amount of latency. For latency between korea and us, there will always be minimum, but the latency will still be much better than having a server that both clients must connect to. In fact, in BW, if both parties had decent connection, the amount of latency across seas was pretty good. So basically, LAN capability also means one computer can host its own games, bypassing blizzard servers. This reduces latency. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:43 dakalro wrote: Blizzard can then buttrape them. Go search for the Blizz v Glider bot creator case ... In the end LAN only helps for local play. No ICCUP servers or any other server will ever be as high quality as battle.net if you play on the internet. The simple fact that Blizzard's servers have latency added by default makes them a lot more balanced for inter-region play. While it would be a nice feature it isn't actually needed except for major LAN events and GSL/NASL finals. Everything else is helping pirating even if not many people would want to admit it, it's been the same with SC1. And this early in the game's life Blizzard will take your homes, cars and children if you even try to put up a public SC2 server. But can Blizzard sue a korean company? Where does that case go to? I mean I understand that if this stuff happend in the US then Blizz could sue the crap out of you but how does it work for a company in another nation? I'm not educated with this legal stuff so please excuse me if this is common knowledge >_< | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
ofcourse it doesn't really prove anything however + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://titanimg.titan24.com/game/20110320/1891dad745418d196400f8804a78ac4d.jpg) | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2594 Posts
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
People who would normally buy the game WILL get this cracked version instead simply for the LAN mode. How many, I don't know. | ||
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kagemucha
United States326 Posts
On March 21 2011 18:04 R0YAL wrote: But can Blizzard sue a korean company? Where does that case go to? I mean I understand that if this stuff happend in the US then Blizz could sue the crap out of you but how does it work for a company in another nation? I'm not educated with this legal stuff so please excuse me if this is common knowledge >_< Blizzard is suing MBC/OGN now. If Kespa is stupid enough to use illegally cracked software Blizzard would destroy them | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
but there are the little things... it could still just be a very well done photoshop. download needs to go faster -.- + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/7Wi14.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Rq0HQ.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/QlfUb.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/sjUIL.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/gAn0t.jpg) | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On March 21 2011 18:04 R0YAL wrote: But can Blizzard sue a korean company? Where does that case go to? I mean I understand that if this stuff happend in the US then Blizz could sue the crap out of you but how does it work for a company in another nation? I'm not educated with this legal stuff so please excuse me if this is common knowledge >_< It depends on country, and importance of a good, but in most cases international infringement cases like this (if the foreign country will not uphold the host company's rights) will only be resolved if the company's host country pressures the foreign country. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On March 21 2011 18:23 Risen wrote: It depends on country, and importance of a good, but in most cases international infringement cases like this (if the foreign country will not uphold the host company's rights) will only be resolved if the company's host country pressures the foreign country. Ah ok, that makes a lot of sense  | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
And the answer is... *drum roll* + Show Spoiler + Absolutely nothing Hopefully it will trigger Blizzard to implement LAN support... eventually at least. | ||
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