EPTWhy most interest in E-sports from non-players? - Page 7
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
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Tudi
Romania127 Posts
I highly doubt a lot of people are watching starcraft 2 because of "pretty explosions" and the like but what do I know? maybe some do that as well ;-) Maybe not continuously watch it for the pretty explosions, since they get boring after a while, but it's definitely something that catches their eye at first. My gf saw me watching some replay where I charged my mass speedling/baneling army into his mass queen and it ended up with a huge bang of green stuff :D I doubt she knew what went on, but the sight was so awesome that she started asking what that was and eventually got into watching and understanding the game. | ||
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antikk
15 Posts
But on topic, for any "sport" to be succesful in any way it requires spectators. No spectators, no pros, no competition. I would have thought that was fairly obvious no? | ||
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
On March 20 2011 22:43 antikk wrote: Whoever came up with the term e-sports should be shot. But on topic, for any "sport" to be succesful in any way it requires spectators. No spectators, no pros, no competition. I would have thought that was fairly obvious no? Why is e-sports a bad term? E-sports, Electronic sports. Ball-sports, Sports using a ball. And so on. | ||
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antikk
15 Posts
On March 20 2011 23:07 Slakter wrote: Why is e-sports a bad term? E-sports, Electronic sports. Ball-sports, Sports using a ball. And so on. When was the last time they changed the shape of the ball in football? Or changed the maximum number of players on the field? I dont think the games we play can ever be called a sport because the game itself is constantly being changed (patches, expansions, sequels). But I dont want to deviate too far from the topic, gaming as a sport discussion is far beyond the scope of this thread. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
If this was a Formula 1 forum, MMA forum or any other sports forum you wouldn't see threads like this popping up where people are surprised that you don't actually drive race cars on your spare time or get into a cage with your friends trying to submit or knockout each other. I watch a lot of sports but in reality I do a bit running (I never watch running though because I find it boring to watch) and occasional play some tennis. Same goes for Starcraft. Sure, i play some but I love to watch GSL on my tv eating sandwich and drinking coca cola , cheer in live threads and/or chats. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
People who play casually / don't play at all can enjoy the game. People who don't play can come to understand the game. We have commentators to explain the to the people who don't know it that well. | ||
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
How many people watch NBA? But how many play in NBA? How many people watch NFL? But how many play in NFL? How many people watch NHL? But how many play in NHL? How many people watch MMA? But how many fight in MMA? How many people watch F1? But how many participate in F1? How many people watch (insert huge spectator sport)? But how many play in (it)? Spectating will always be more common than participating.  | ||
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simbot
Australia95 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
I've grown up playing games, so i can relate myself to the games and players and find it interesting. And especially if someone like day9 or tastosis is casting who make a nice show of it. | ||
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Darkong
United Kingdom418 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:25 Kelethius wrote: What I guess this really stems down to is perhaps something wrong on my end. I see love for the game and time spent playing it as extremely strongly positively correlated (people who love it the most, play it the most). But anytime I watch a podcast or stream, or interview or whatever type of video coverage, the people making the most effort to go out and ask questions, talk to streamers/players in person, make comments about esports and love for the game, always seem to be the lowest level players (or non-players all together) This is a wrong perception on your part, love of any given sport or activity does not correlate with a given persons ability or the amount that they personally participate in it. The desire to play and relative skill level is completely separate from the wish to see said sport/activity prosper and desire for involvement in said prosperity. ‘Real’ sports example, the majority of coaches, organisers, promoters (etc) of sports aren’t necessarily all that good at them. Coaches need a strong understanding of the sport but not actual ‘mechanical’ ability in the sport, organisers and promoters only need a basic understanding of the sport (but importantly need a strong understanding of their target audience). These people may not actually have that much, or any, ability in their respective sports but want to see and aid growth for their own reasons. E-sports is very small and niche in the sporting world and is still largely a grassroots effort, this creates a stronger community than other sports will have (football for example is a collective of many communities which makes a larger whole). This puts more emphasis on the individuals than a football fan will feel, because it is so small ‘I’ can do something to make a difference, every small effort counts since there aren’t TV deals worth hundreds of millions being bounced around, so everyone who buys a premium ticket for Gom or NASL or who turns off adblock for streams and sites can make a contribution (however small, it adds up in this small market situation). | ||
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Raii
Philippines194 Posts
On March 20 2011 08:58 Centorian wrote: i'm sorry but the OP stinks of elitist crap. I'm a HUGE fan of e-sports. Why do I have to be awesome at SC to enjoy it. Just because I can not technically manage all of those things you spoke of: Drone timing, micro, etc. doesn't mean I can't understand them when they are being done. Also its an entirely false statement that everyone with half a brain can reach masters. Masters is 2% of the population. 2% can never be 40% much less 90%. Your posts show that maybe you can play SC well but you seem to lack the ability to reason. Makes me question your age. -Cent Just a question, how does age have anything to do with the discussion? + Show Spoiler + It's ridiculous and utterly insane when people think of age as a sole criterion for judging a poster's comprehensive skills. Elitist crap you say? Looking down on "younger people" is in itself a twisted perspective. Sorry if I had to target your post directly, but really there is something very wrong with the way you think. | ||
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PirateFX
Malaysia252 Posts
On March 20 2011 20:00 pezit wrote: I like watching and analyzing but i don't play the game, just as i like watching and analyzing soccer games. And yes even if i don't play the game i can understand everything just fine, just as a soccer coach doesn't have to be a good soccer player i don't have to be a good sc2 player to understand the game. Same here . Never played starcraft 2, don't have any intention of playing it either (No time). Nevertheless, i follow the SC2 scene very closely and its been hugely entertaining. | ||
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Insouciant
United States47 Posts
To offer some hyperbole, saying that "if everyone tried, they would all be diamond or better" is like saying "if every basketball player tried, they would all be in the nba" Masters is the top two percent, eventually for everybody getting into masters, there will be somebody forced out | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
It's nice to see the player level evolve, and the new GSL maps have really added to the intensity of the game, but I'm afraid we'll still have to wait a couple of years before the game reaches brood war-levels in terms of skill; games are not quite as interesting as brood war games. They're generally pretty one-sided and I'm yet to see a really nice comeback that isn't caused by the winning player starting to slack. | ||
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Kentakky
Sweden1272 Posts
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Anon06
United States203 Posts
fantasy: wanting to be famous/good at something so they experience this through proxy of proplayers. social: something to talk about with your buddies/enjoying being part of the cheering crowd. entertainment/excitement: do you think people in gladiatorial times wanted to go into an arena and kill or be killed? no, but they sure as hell liked to watch that shit. judging: its easier to criticize others then to do it yourself. | ||
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CodECleaR
United States395 Posts
It's why there's so many people watching monday night football on the couch who blow at football. | ||
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StreetWise
United States594 Posts
Second, I think you are forgetting one factor. Casters. Casters make all the difference in the world. A good caster breaks down the game in a way that someone completely new to the game can understand the strategic plays and even the emotion of the game as the balance of power shifts back and forth. To speak from personal experience, I took my wife to BlizzCon in 09 and her original plan was to hang out at the hotel and lay out by the pool and visit the spa, but I encouraged her to come and watch a few games. She begrudgingly agreed and actually enjoyed the games (WC3) even though she had never played the game. She even got to the point where she looked at the schedule and went to the rest of the casted games and ended up routing for Lyn who won the whole tournament, besting my favorite player at the time Grubby. | ||
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