EPTWhy most interest in E-sports from non-players? - Page 6
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Zombo Joe
Canada850 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
Also, a lot of my friends watch the GSL, so I watch it and talk with them during. | ||
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jere
United States121 Posts
I know the rules and how the game can go but can not play at the high levels. Much like I know American Football. Right now I play Protoss Vs Zerg like the option play. I can keep the ball, toss to the running back that is with me. It is a one gate forge. If Zerg expands I canon it if not it becomes a 4 gate with + 1 attack to deal with speedling and roach. The defense (or in my case the Zerg has to know how to defend this.) It has been quite good to me so far. This made me think about how I first heard about SC2 and during Beta watched youtube stuff. WOW I just went to Youtube. Typed hus and Huskystarcraft came up then HDstarcraft was next. | ||
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12D3
United States39 Posts
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Authweight
United States304 Posts
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emc
United States3088 Posts
I think SC2 and e-sports can become this, it just needs to be spread outside of the internet. For example, a sport like MMA can exist because it's on national television, having a sport only exist on the internet is a big hurdle we must get past. With MLG and possibly NASL getting on TV I think that's a huge step in the right direction. Remember, games like BW and CS 1.6 were hugely popular among internet nerds around the world but because the games look so out dated it's less likely they will gain fame on TV. A game like SC2 with crisp graphics is bearable to look at, I think SC2 has the best chance of succeeding on TV. | ||
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Tudi
Romania127 Posts
For me, it seems to me that if people loved the game so much and loved esports so much, they couldnt possibly be in bronze/silver/gold. I arrive home from work at around 7-ish and I'm usually so beat that playing SC is really not an option. I play zerg, so if I don't have the mental state to perform my mechanics correctly I'd rather simply not play than play in that state and rage myself into an early grave after a 10-loss streak. So during weekdays, I'm a casual e-sports fan but on weekends I try to squeeze any minute of playtime humanly possible. This has got me to high plat pushing for diamond so I can still find a place in your "not worthy" categories yet I remain an avid e-sports fan regardless. | ||
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Torumfroll
290 Posts
I still enjoy playing the game whenever I find the time to sit down and play some ladder games, but I am far from good at it. | ||
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shinwa
Sweden225 Posts
We're all just different, some of us enjoys playing the game and others would rather watch others play. I'm the latter myself. | ||
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frozt_
United States234 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
When you play the game very much you see it like strategic objects and things that move and you constantly try to improve the movement and strategies. It's mechanical and you look at it that way and not as pure entertainment, that's why I think you compare it to chess. If you take a step back you will see that from a spectator point of view is not about that and more comparable to "real" sports. The main questions you ask is this: On March 20 2011 07:25 Kelethius wrote: What do you guys think of this? Whats going on here? Why do people who hardly play the game(or not at all) care about it? Because they love the story, action and everything that you can't achieve as a player and you can see the skill and the effort Pros put in to it. I can't put down ForceFields like MC, yet I enjoy and can see how difficult it is to perfect it and that's why I enjoy it so much when I watch a game. I can't dunk in basket like Kobe Bryant, yet I enjoy and see how difficult it is to perfect it and that's why I enjoy it so much when I watch a basket. It's basically the same thing. When we see that moving armada that try a touchdown in Football it's the same thing when we see the sprinting zerglings moving towards their goal (probes/SCVs/drones). I think that people who play soccer/football in division 2 in a highly competetive country isn't the most hardcore fan. It's the 40-year old bald, chubby, married man who goes to a packed arena with a team outfit and cheer with his friends. It works the same thing with other things and we can take a simple example: The Olympics. I'm from Sweden and you can bet that we get excited when Sweden and Norway competes in Biathlon (You know, cross-country skiing + rifle shooting). I can tell you that hardly anyone competes or plays (?) biathlon - yet we get excited and cheer for our favourite athletes. I'm a diamond player myself and play a lot so I'm not the category you describe but have many friends and a GF that absolutely loves to watch SC2 eSport for the casual excitement and fun it's bringin to them. Even if they don't understand 14 hatch they enjoy when the giant protoss deathball clashes with the zerg swarm full of Ultras, roaches and brood lords. And when they see Mothership Vortex, Baneling bomb or a Nuke - daaamn how excited they get! Edit: Typo mistake | ||
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Khanz
France214 Posts
But i feel like everyone is not really frank about it. Let's face it, some streamers that encourage you to play the game are partially sponsored/ close to/ friend with blizzard and sponsors that want to make money out of it. Thats basically it. They encourage you to play the game and maybe they get higher value from blizzard & sponsors ? Husky is like the golden exemple. I might be wrong but there is something that seems fake somewhere somehow... | ||
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Whizon
Netherlands64 Posts
On March 20 2011 16:53 12D3 wrote: This is actually very simple and has been touched on in different posts. Why do people who don't play care about SC2 Esports? - Because they enjoy watching it more than playing it. If they enjoy watching why don't they enjoy playing it? - SC2 can be somewhat stressful as it requires a lot of multi tasking and quick thinking. If you are not naturally good at these things it may feel frustrating to play at times. So to those people it can be much more enjoyable to watch others play. But they don't understand all the subtleties of the game. How can they enjoy/appreciate watching others? - They begin watching with a basic understanding. The main objective is to kill the other player with your army, pretty simple. After that you can learn as you go. I think it is being completely overlooked that for many other things in life there is some level of preparation or knowledge gained before actually "doing". So while you can learn SC2 by "doing", you can also learn by reading, watching and listening. After you do this for awhile you eventually learn the subtleties. Why do they care if Esports grows then? They are already enjoying watching it. - Because the bigger Esports gets the higher the quality of tournaments and games we will get. The scene will get more sophisticated and we may one day go from watching streaming games online to watching matches on ESPN. Can you imagine one day being able to casually talk about MC the way people can casually talk about Kobe Bryant? Its just sharing something you already love with even MORE people. I think this sums it up in general. You can compare it very well to football (soccer), where the commentator(s) make it more interesting to watch. Another reason is the fact SC2 isn't complicated as a basic game. You do not need a set amount workers, a certain amount of units, a certain percentage of the map, certain upgrades, etc. While all those things I mentioned make a huge difference for sure, the objective in essence is simple: kill your opponent. And that's makes the game accessible for starters. "gogogo kill red" is enough. The more you root for blue, or red, the more you see little cool things as well. SC2 isn't a stale game. It's not a push and move forward thing. Drops, cloaked units, proxy buildings, etc are just a few examples which add a basic bit of "extra" to the simple concept of "killing red". Casters are more familiar with the game of course, and make stuff like that more accessible to a newbie. The game being so accessible to watch (due to those who indeed love the game so much). I remember when I played football when I was younger. There was always pressure to perform, which I think is a big argument for a lot of people to rather go watch/play a custom/play with friends in SC2. Because watching a football match/playing some penalty kicks or a match with some people from around the neighborhood/friends is fun and doesn't bare any pressure. Enjoying the same game because of the fun factor is good. Such a thing becoming more accepted, and being to talk with more people about is a good thing then. | ||
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Helicopter
Canada39 Posts
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:28 Zaphid wrote: Majority of people who watch football would have trouble sprinting across the whole field, simple really. Indeed, at least that's the way for me. I like watching sc2, but I do not play sc2 because I cannot afford the time it would take to get my skills up to a level where I wouldn't be disgusted with my own game. And if I start playing sc2 for once, I might be dragged far more into it that would be good for my life. ^^ Unlike real sports, you can basically play sc2 indefinitely at home. | ||
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silentsaint
Germany540 Posts
Even if you can't imagine to do something others can. I highly doubt a lot of people are watching starcraft 2 because of "pretty explosions" and the like but what do I know? maybe some do that as well ;-) The reason people watch the day9-daily even if they never played the game could be his passion which he shows during everything sc-related he does. People like that a lot. | ||
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zasda
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 20 2011 19:01 Khanz wrote: But i feel like everyone is not really frank about it. Let's face it, some streamers that encourage you to play the game are partially sponsored/ close to/ friend with blizzard and sponsors that want to make money out of it. It's kind of nutty to suggest that these guys are casting because of any kind of profit motive. When they started casting, I can guarantee you that the idea of making ANY money from it wasn't even remotely in their imaginations. They started doing it because they're enthusiastic about the game. In any case, to the extent that people like HD or Husky have a profit motive, their main concern is that you keep watching their stream. Their sponsors are unrelated to the game. (I've been seeing lots of Microsoft Bing and toothpaste ads recently.) And while Blizzard loves having viewers' eyes on these people, they're putting their money and effort into promoting the actual tournaments rather than webcasts by youtube personalities. | ||
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