EPTOn March 21 2011 01:18 Raii wrote:
Just a question, how does age have anything to do with the discussion?
Just a question, how does age have anything to do with the discussion?
I think he most likely meant to say "maturity."
Why most interest in E-sports from non-players? - Page 8
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
I think he most likely meant to say "maturity." | ||
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Martius
Canada6 Posts
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solistus
United States172 Posts
If you don't understand the appeal of spectator sports or following professional competitions in any context, I don't think any of us will be able to explain it to you in the context of SC2. Most people greatly enjoy following their favorite country/team/player/etc. through a rigorous competition, and this has nothing to do with wanting to compete at the highest level in that activity themselves. | ||
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Zechs
United Kingdom321 Posts
On another topic: "When was the last time they changed the shape of the ball in football? Or changed the maximum number of players on the field?" How about when they changed the numbers of subs on the bench a couple seasons ago? How about when they alter the interpretation of the offside rule every few years (interfering with play, legal goalscoring body part etc etc)? How about when they introduced the backpass rule? This is a terrible argument. | ||
Gigadrill
Australia52 Posts
By your logic all MMA fans must actually practice MMA. | ||
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Spiro
United Kingdom17 Posts
I was drawn in when an in-game friend brought up the fact he watced the GSL. I was curious and watched a bit myself and found it entertaining. What I would say is that for me 70% of what makes it interesting is the commentating. Artosis and Tasteless make the games exciting to watch and they can be funny. They also talk a lot about all the players and help veiwers connect with them. Which over a bit of time helps viewers single out favourite players to follow. Also the casters knowlegde of the game covers over the gaps in my own skill and understanding of the games. They will pick up on little details that you might miss and explain why it's clever (this negates the point having to play the game much to understand even the complex high-skill moments). I will also switch off casts if the caster is dull, annoying, unprofessional or hard to understand. I've had the game since launch and but only get chance to play every now then so in total I have 100 or so 1v1s, 200 or so team games and sitting around gold/plat level. | ||
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briandawkins
United States19 Posts
After I watch pro tennis, I want to play tennis. After I watch the World Cup/Premier, I want to play soccer. I don't really like basketball, but after I watch NBA, I want to play basketball. MLB and NFL take a lot of infrastructure and players to play, and it's not all that much fun to have a catch. But tennis, soccer, and basketball are all decently approximated by a few amateurs with makeshift or cheap equipment. All the NBA fans I know, the guys who'll sit down to watch whatever game is on, love to play ball and do it as much as they can. As for the non-sports examples: yes, I don't understand how someone who loves music wouldn't play a lot of music. My friends who really love are always doodling or working on some project. So I share the OP's confusion. I don't understand how someone could really watch 2 or 3 hours of a stream without wanting to get on BNET. And it's so much easier to play "pickup" than any sport, especially if you already have the ability to watch streams! I've gone through periods where other commitments divert my energy from SC2 or music or other hobbies. When time and energy are tight, I might watch a replay or a GSL series or something instead of squeezing in a game. But aside from that, all the excuses in this thread are pretty weird. And lol at all the posters who just focused on OP's claim that anyone who loved the game could be diamond. | ||
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SixTwo
Netherlands68 Posts
On March 22 2011 02:16 briandawkins wrote: ... all the excuses in this thread are pretty weird.... I don't think they're excuses, they're explanations to the OP. Myself I hardly play sc2, finished the campaign and played after, got placed in gold and then stopped, I play other games but watch sc2 streams every day at least a few hours. I do the same thing with Snooker, doesn't mean I'm any good at Snooker or Football, but I enjoy watching it. Just like the OP can't understand why it's enjoyable to watch a sport you're not actively doing, I could also ask the same question, does that mean that if you are not good or don't practice a sport that means you shouldn't watch it as a spectator ? | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
How many people watch football/soccer/baseball etc. but literally havent played since they were in school? it's that much work except it isn't physically strenuous, but i am just talking about time you have to dedicate to it | ||
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Staklet
Sweden44 Posts
The myth about it's greatness in Korea, the legendary players, the uprising interest among players in general, the big tournaments! What is it not to like, even if you don't play yourself? I spend whole days just thinking about StarCraft, even though I suck big time. ^^ | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
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mDuo13
United States307 Posts
 I can follow the GSL by running it in the background on my second monitor at work. I can't do that with playing. =PI suspect that most people who are watching ESPORTS are, like me, people who play a little bit but don't have the mechanics, multitasking, or dedication to actually get good at the game currently. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
and there is so much depth that only experience can help you understand. You totally look at the game through different eyes when you're new, and it makes it sooo much harder feel like you can possibly get good enough to enjoy it. | ||
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briandawkins
United States19 Posts
does that mean that if you are not good or don't practice a sport that means you shouldn't watch it as a spectator ? I didn't say anything about being good. I'm a shitty athlete, a mediocre musician, and a plat level SC2 player. Edit: I also didn't say anything about what people "should" do. I can say I love the game but I get bored playing Do you really think you love the game? I mean, I like watching baseball, I get bored playing it. I would never say that I love it. And I know we're just throwing around words on the internet, but the point of the thread is to understand and distinguish levels of appreciation. | ||
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Hostile
United States49 Posts
As far as wanting to play is concerned sure I do but I don't like sucking and with the backlog of other games to play plus the amount of good to great games in the future, it's a reversal of my childhood where a good to great game didn't come out every month and a lack of money allowed me to play Diablo II, Warcraft III, StarCraft and Counter-Strike for years. I have also been playing Team Fortress 2 for years now and that was just so much easier to jump into and win. | ||
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crimsonsentinel
United States179 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Omgzpwnd
Poland59 Posts
And i dont really think its bad. Its great that alot of people like this game, i dont think it will become as big as soccer is(sadly). I'm just wondering is this because the game is that good and enjoyable, or is this because of big money invested into hyping sc2. Sorry for poor english. Have a nice day Sir. | ||
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Lemure
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