"Rape" and Game Culture - Page 21

On August 14 2010 06:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
They would if it portrays them with a negative image. They'd do it in a second.

On August 14 2010 06:41 Aex wrote:


Not true in all cases, they would only drop if that negative image affects profits.

On August 14 2010 06:37 Aex wrote:


Basically this ^

It is not the responsibility of the gaming community to stop using words like 'rape' and 'owned', just like it is not the responsibility of the sports watching community to stop using the words described above. It is the responsibility of the broadcasters if they want to attain mass appeal, if they want to appeal to the Soccer Moms of America. You could claim it is the responsibility of the community to condemn the usage of the word, but I don't feel that the majority of the gaming community finds the words offensive in this context, and this is definitely not a community where the Soccer Moms of America have a large say, unlike broadcasted television. Sure, the rest of the world might find it offensive, but the rest of the world probably doesn't even take gaming seriously, so why should we care what they think?

OP, Perhaps you should have said something along the lines as the poster quoted here. Something along the lines as, you can personally use the word as much as you like, but refrain from using it during tournaments or broadcasts, and hold those who do responsible. So, that we as a community can display ourselves in a much more positive light to an outsider looking in. Instead you come off as trying to tell the community what words to use and not use, because of how you and your friends feel they are offensive. You portray a holier than thou complex, insisting your opinion is '100% right', and that is not a good way to get your core message across.

On August 14 2010 06:41 Aex wrote:


Not true in all cases, they would only drop if that negative image affects profits.

On August 14 2010 06:43 toadstool wrote:


Hip hop celebrates drive bys shootings, the gangsta life style and drug dealing. Yet it is the driving force of our music and pop culture at the moment. Why is that? The soccer mums of America would be outraged that Eminem is singing about killing his girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Stop being so damn sensitive. Money dictates what will be in popular culture. If the money is right, E-sports will grow. And the money will come from the audience, which will appreciate rape and pwnage in all its un adulterated un filtered use. Unless we're tryng to expand into the soccer mums of America audience, well then we're shit out of luck.

On August 14 2010 06:43 FireBlast! wrote:


the assumed negative image will not quite be in their favour would it given that they are antagonising their own market...

On August 14 2010 06:33 thatdontmakecent wrote:
Thank you thank you thank you OP. I have been trying to formulate the words for this for so long. I understand that 'rape' is embedded in gaming culture, but just think how it sounds to the outside world. Gaming and gamers will continue to garner an adolescent (and horridly immature) reputation if we insist on defending the use of word like this. YOU don't think it's a big deal. I get it. It is. So stop. It's a small change with a hugely positive impact. You can't know how it affects people if it hasn't happened to you, so by saying it you are speaking out of ignorance, and then defending our own ignorance. It sounds moronic. Consider yourself lucky you don't know what it's like, and defer to the people who are asking you to stop. Being competitive is one thing, being grossly macho and sophomoric is something else.

If you disagree, ok. But think about it? Please?

Great post OP.

On August 14 2010 06:36 Chimon wrote:


"I shouldn't have done that," or for the even more hastily-inclinded, "Oh ____" (Insert expletive).

Not so hard, is it?

On August 14 2010 05:32 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
The etymology of "beat" shows that the two meanings evolved independently. They simply happen to be homophones. "Beat," as in "strike," was the earliest known form of the word. "Beat," as in "defeat," actually evolved from a later form of "beat" which meant "escape" or "legally avoid."

"Rape" is a completely different story. It obviously derived from the word "sexually abuse" due to the mental trauma and complete helplessness of the victim.

–verb (used with object)
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.

"from Latin rapere to seize"

On August 14 2010 06:46 Roe wrote:

What would you do if those words offended someone? Sophomore is just someone in second year of high school. By yours and the OP's argument you must adhere to my sentiment of, let's make up a common story, being picked on by the seniors for being a sophomore. I was bullied and picked on and physically abused, and you using that word makes me feel terrible.

How do you feel about that logic? Are you enticed to cater to my wishes because you had a different meaning, as well as different aim in your statement?

On August 14 2010 06:46 Slow Motion wrote:
Let's be clear about this. We use the word "rape" because it has a connotation of being utterly controlled, destroyed, and violated. Similar to an actual sexual assault. Hell, sometimes we do say "raped in the ass" or "his ass must hurt." Using exaggerations like this and "probe genocide/worker Holocaust" is colorful and makes the commentary more interesting, but can offend some. I'd rather have the commentary be more interesting. But hey, I also enjoy racist jokes and dead baby jokes (not that I would tell either in the presence of certain groups).

On August 14 2010 06:49 Zealotdriver wrote:
If gamers stopped flippantly using the words rape, own, fag, gay, the world would be a better place. But too many gamers feel selfishly entitled to use offensive speech regardless of how it affects others. They don't realize that using abusive language can only harm your reputation with others and has no positive benefits.

On August 14 2010 06:49 Zealotdriver wrote:
If gamers stopped flippantly using the words rape, own, fag, gay, the world would be a better place. But too many gamers feel selfishly entitled to use offensive speech regardless of how it affects others. They don't realize that using abusive language can only harm your reputation with others and has no positive benefits.

On August 14 2010 06:43 toadstool wrote:


Hip hop celebrates drive bys shootings, the gangsta life style and drug dealing. Yet it is the driving force of our music and pop culture at the moment. Why is that? The soccer mums of America would be outraged that Eminem is singing about killing his girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Stop being so damn sensitive. Money dictates what will be in popular culture. If the money is right, E-sports will grow. And the money will come from the audience, which will appreciate rape and pwnage in all its un adulterated un filtered use. Unless we're tryng to expand into the soccer mums of America audience, well then we're shit out of luck.