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I wonder what your experiences are concerning the use of ritalin/adderall and gaming. how does it affect your gaming?
for those who dont know it:
Adderall
"Adderall is a brand-name psychostimulant medication composed of racemic amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, racemic amphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharide and dextroamphetamine sulfate, which is thought to work by increasing the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain.[1] Adderall is widely reported to increase alertness, libido, concentration and overall cognitive performance while decreasing user fatigue. It is available in two formulations: IR (Instant Release) and XR (eXtended Release). The immediate release formulation is indicated for use in Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy,[2] while the XR formulation is approved for use only with ADHD.[1] In the United States, Adderall is a Schedule II drug under the Controlled Substance Act due to having significant abuse and addiction potential."
Ritalin
"Methylphenidate (MPH; Ritalin, Concerta, Metadate or Methylin) is a psychostimulant drug approved for treatment of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, and narcolepsy. It may also be prescribed for off-label use in treatment-resistant cases of lethargy, depression, neural insult, obesity, and rarely other psychiatric disorders such as Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Methylphenidate belongs to the piperidine class of compounds and increases the levels of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain through reuptake inhibition of the monoamine transporters. MPH possesses structural similarities to amphetamine, and, though it is less potent, its pharmacological effects are even more closely related to those of cocaine.[1][2] MPH is most commonly known by the Novartis trademark name Ritalin, which is an instant-release racemic mixture, although a variety of formulations and generic brand names exist."
is the focus rather beneficial or obstructive?
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I've taken Adderall and Ritalin while cramming for finals before and the results were simply amazing. Could concentrate for incredible amount of time. Very rarely though I'd become fixated on a minor distraction (like watching my dog sleep would suddenly seem like the most interesting thing in the world and it'd take a bit of effort to get my focus back on studying). I'd say the effects for gaming would be like taking steroids for athletes and would definitely give lots of advantages.
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Yes an upside is amphetamines increase alertness, now list all the cons.. which there are quite a few. Just drink a cup of coffee bro, It's cheaper/safer!
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Me and my buds used to have "Doterall" or "Honerall" nights where we just plays hours of dota/hon for hours on Aderall. Concentration is definitely boosted noticeably.
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Is this legal in huge tournaments?
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amphetamines and their analogues are considered doping in pretty much any sport/game.
i have tried them.. they are great while the effects last, however, coming off of them is hard and miserable.
also, tolerance sets in extremely fast
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"Speed is a psychostimulant medication composed of racemic amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, racemic amphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharide and dextroamphetamine sulfate, which is thought to work by increasing the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain.[1] Speed is widely reported to increase alertness, libido, concentration and overall cognitive performance while decreasing user fatigue."
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I've also used adderall numerous times in freshmen year of college and I think the cons outweigh the pros by far. Although everyone has different experiences, I just don't think the addiction, dependence, and come downs are worth it at all. I did have a definite increase in alertness but I can't really recall any details on whatever I was doing. When the effects finally wore off, comedown was just so miserable that I wanted to take more and more. And during the comedown, I wasn't able to eat anything at all or the following day. After some months of abusing, I saw how this was becoming problematic (which I should have realized after first time). It was sad and scary how I became so dependent on the drug so I ended up quitting cold turkey and never saw it again. oh almost forgot, the XR definitely hits harder and lasts longer imo but i really wouldn't recommend any of them for any reason :p
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umm... I take adderall whenever i need to work long hours. The people above talk about how addicting it is but I have found the opposite to be true. I never feel like i need the substance or have become dependent on it. When i stop taking it am a bit worn out for a day or two but nothing intense. It is incredible for studying but i find it really intrusive for gaming. For the record i take 30mg xr. All of my friends that try it love it for studying and none of them have become addicted or any garbage like that. Def some huge over exaggeration going on in this thread.
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I've always suspected progaming to have a large focus-drug undercurrent.
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You're talking about drugs for a video game...
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I thought taking my Ritalin while gaming would improve my performance, then i found I cannot i mean cannot play starcraft with Ritalin. When i play using it im so slow its not even funny, I just focus on 1 thing way to much which is horrible in a rts game. If you have ADHD its ironically easier to multi task.
Maybe in fps or something it might be better. I never tested it on thos
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i've recently been diagnosed with add/adhd... i can get this if i want to! maybe ill become superpro sc player cause of it ^_^
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I think this is actually a very important subject (especially concerning e-sports) that goes mostly undiscussed, probably because most people are completely unaware (especially those outside the US).
In the US pretty much every retard is prescribed Adderall,Ritalin,etc to make them not so braindead zombie-like. Outside the US you probably have to smoke meth or snort cocaine to get similar benefits. The difference is that you can pretty much take these cognitive enhancers every day without the expense of taking a huge toll on you body like illegal substances.
I am pretty much against its use in competitive play (real sports and e-sports) because it gives one player a huge advantage. it won't make you better by itself of course, but it'll make you much more hungry for the win which makes a HUGE difference (i'm sure most people who play competitive games seriously can understand this). in other words, you'll be using 100% of your capability instead of 70% or whatever... But of course, there is absolutely no way to regulate this kind of prescribed drug use, so there is nothing we can do about it.
I take it for school use only (since I think it is very dangerous if you are not a responsible user), but I used to take it for recreational use during my competitive CS days, and it makes an enormous difference. I like to think of it like this: If I could play myself while on adderall against myself not on adderall, my adderall-self would destroy my nonadderall-self, consistently, every time. if I could do this on SC2 I would prob end up winning something like 15-2 against my non-adderall self.
I know that most competitive CS players use these substances, especially during important matches, etc but I really admire the players who don't. The problem is that most competitive games require a ridiculous amount of hours of practice to become an outstanding player, and oftentimes our body becomes bored, especially those who play 10+hrs a day, and it stops providing the juice we need to get an edge over the other players.
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Google poker and adderall, its a topic in the poker community
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I know that most competitive CS players use these substances
Really. Can you back up that bold statement with something ?
Those of you that take antiphetamins for fun, watch Requiem for a Dream (if you haven't already), you'll love it.
I know gaming isn't really about healthy living, but taking drugs in order to win now ... come the fucking on.
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On June 19 2010 21:23 Smu wrote:
I know that most competitive CS players use these substances
Really. Can you back up that bold statement with something ?
Those of you that take antiphetamins for fun, watch Requiem for a Dream (if you haven't already), you'll love it.
I know gaming isn't really about healthy living, but taking drugs in order to win now ... come the fucking on.
actually i can't really back that up, im mostly speculating. I know i've seen a few gotfrag articles about it if you want to try to dig them up, but i played in cal-p and although I can't speak for everyone, pretty much everyone in my entourage talked about it
I can't really see how it could help you in Poker, unless you are zerging the small tables to try to make a profit from playing long hours. What a waste..
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It's a whole new world out there.
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its doping.... so why the fuck would you do that? just because there is no rule against it (yet).
You wouldn't use maphacks either (i hope). so anyone who thinks he has to dope gets a big FUCK YOU from my end!
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On June 19 2010 21:35 zizou21 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2010 21:23 Smu wrote:
I know that most competitive CS players use these substances
Really. Can you back up that bold statement with something ?
Those of you that take antiphetamins for fun, watch Requiem for a Dream (if you haven't already), you'll love it.
I know gaming isn't really about healthy living, but taking drugs in order to win now ... come the fucking on. actually i can't really back that up, im mostly speculating. I know i've seen a few gotfrag articles about it if you want to try to dig them up, but i played in cal-p and although I can't speak for everyone, pretty much everyone in my entourage talked about it I can't really see how it could help you in Poker, unless you are zerging the small tables to try to make a profit from playing long hours. What a waste..
poker is a game that always requires a lot of focus and attention.. you can't see how it could help in poker? also, if you're masstabling you can also choose to play higher limits.. no need to "zerg small tables". :p
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