EPTWhere is diamond league? - Page 4
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Snowfield
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
Even the D+ players would all make diamond (old plat) in sc2. I miss the old days when the forums had a high ratio of quality posts to noise. Also idk if anyone's actually in diamond but it must be insane hard to get in if it does exist after last reset. | ||
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ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
On June 04 2010 23:23 Cheebah wrote: Seriously? General * Improved the system that handles initial placement and promotion/relegation between Leagues & Ladders. Think a few steps further though. The patch notes states that they have refined the initial placement. It does NOT say specifically that you can no longer get placed in diamond through placement matches, and furthermore it does NOT state that it is now significantly harder to move into diamond. It is just as likely that whatever refinements they did to the placement system caused a bug where you can't get placed in diamond. I hope that it is intentional though. | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
I had really hoped Diamond would be for really only the best players. Like an exclusive club I would never be a part of but I respected it because of that. | ||
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Joseki
United States200 Posts
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On June 04 2010 22:39 Snowfield wrote: i got 4-1 (gg TvT) and got to gold, i was like, fuuuuuuuuuuuu I was dropped from a game during the patch 13 crisis and got to gold as a result of this game being counted as a loss, imagine how FFFFUUUUUU I was! (On topic, I think it's smart not to care too much about rankings before it goes retail and id and stats will stay around longer. Also, it's obvious that the results of the placement matches can't be very accurate. Initial placement just gets you started, rank gets more accurate over time.) | ||
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virusak
Czech Republic344 Posts
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xal
Canada22 Posts
Also there may be a cliff of some sort. Meaning that diamond promotions won't happen until you have at least 1000 points. This would help keep experienced sc1 people with great mechanics and macro out who are not yet familiar with all the unit dynamics. | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 05 2010 01:31 xal wrote: Don't forget, it takes 100 people doing well to cut a new diamond league, not just one person. Battle.net doesn't create a new league until it has enough people to populate it. Also there may be a cliff of some sort. Meaning that diamond promotions won't happen until you have at least 1000 points. This would help keep experienced sc1 people with great mechanics and macro out who are not yet familiar with all the unit dynamics. The unit dynamics are wholly less complicated than getting good mechanics and macro down. If it's meant to keep them out it won't do so for very long. A hard counter system is very simplistic when looked at objectively. | ||
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virusak
Czech Republic344 Posts
On June 05 2010 01:31 xal wrote: Don't forget, it takes 100 people doing well to cut a new diamond league, not just one person. Battle.net doesn't create a new league until it has enough people to populate it. Also there may be a cliff of some sort. Meaning that diamond promotions won't happen until you have at least 1000 points. This would help keep experienced sc1 people with great mechanics and macro out who are not yet familiar with all the unit dynamics. no it doesn't need 100 people, lower leagues are also created with less people if there is a cliff, then I don't think many people will be able to achieve it in the remaining 3 days of beta | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12256 Posts
On June 05 2010 00:13 ymirheim wrote: Think a few steps further though. The patch notes states that they have refined the initial placement. It does NOT say specifically that you can no longer get placed in diamond through placement matches, and furthermore it does NOT state that it is now significantly harder to move into diamond. It is just as likely that whatever refinements they did to the placement system caused a bug where you can't get placed in diamond. I hope that it is intentional though. If there's a high default minimum MMR threshold and review checkpoints take longer to occur, then it makes sense why we're not seeing people placed directly into Diamond. The only way we'll know for sure is if people mass game and someone goes 5-0 against the likes of Idra, Artosis, TLO, Naz, and Jinro (or more specifically, players with the highest possible MMR) -- will that person get placed in Diamond? Surely the MMR would be high enough, unless there's an artificial barrier that prevents automatic placement into the highest league. | ||
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BlueSorc
United Kingdom119 Posts
I assume it works by establishing a hundred people statistically ready to cope with diamond, and then, as those hundred play thier next game, win or lose, they then end up being added. | ||
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
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italiangymnast
United States246 Posts
On June 05 2010 00:13 ymirheim wrote: Think a few steps further though. The patch notes states that they have refined the initial placement. It does NOT say specifically that you can no longer get placed in diamond through placement matches, and furthermore it does NOT state that it is now significantly harder to move into diamond. It is just as likely that whatever refinements they did to the placement system caused a bug where you can't get placed in diamond. I hope that it is intentional though. when has blizzard ever told us everything that they did in the patch notes? never. ther are always hidden changes. - idk why they just dont put it in the patch notes. real annoying. | ||
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virusak
Czech Republic344 Posts
On June 05 2010 01:44 BlueSorc wrote: Just because you see 6 people in a newly created league doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't 94 other people who are going to step in after they play their next game. I assume it works by establishing a hundred people statistically ready to cope with diamond, and then, as those hundred play thier next game, win or lose, they then end up being added. that is a good point, but sometimes it takes days before the 100 places in divisions get filled and what if the people loose the next match big time, than this system is not very much accurate | ||
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Moony
United States533 Posts
On June 04 2010 22:39 Snowfield wrote: i got 4-1 (gg TvT) and got to gold, i was like, fuuuuuuuuuuuu lol tvt is the easiest matchup... relatively predictable. i have yet to try the placement matches though. gonna try them now | ||
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fantomex
United States313 Posts
Where are all the tournaments? Is bnet2 seriously not going to have tournaments running 24/7 on release? Have they even tested tournaments in beta? | ||
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