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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:21 Nerchio wrote: 349 points 20-3 record and platinum, but not suprised actually because it will need probably about ~1k points I'd be very surprised if there were any rating requirement. The bonus pool ensures that points for everyone will increase over time, so having a rating requirement would be silly. | ||
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Fivyrn
31 Posts
The one loss was against someone I totally destroyed but then DC'ed before he quit... so at least in patch 13 it was still pretty easy to get into diamond, only one or two of my placement game opponents seemed like they were any good (and I'm not amazing either). | ||
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Thall
Switzerland214 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:13 jamesr12 wrote: maybe diamond is just one divsion ??? its possible i hope this is true, but anyways, blizz already taking a step in the right direction by not placeing people easily into diamond league :D *thumbsup* | ||
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Tristan
Canada566 Posts
4-8 record now and I got curbstomped down to Bronze T_T. I was high platinum before the reset | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:31 Elite00fm wrote: You guys are dumb, they probably just made the hidden MMR rating required for diamond a lot higher than it was previously Your record has nothing to do with it Your rating has nothing to do with it Your division rank has has nothing to do with it How well you do in your games has nothing to do with it How is hidden MMR calculated then? Magic? | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:32 Fivyrn wrote: Well I am at work so I don't have a screenshot and I believe I did the placement matches in patch 13 (there wasn't a reset on patch 14 correct?) but I went 4-1 and made diamond. The one loss was against someone I totally destroyed but then DC'ed before he quit... so at least in patch 13 it was still pretty easy to get into diamond, only one or two of my placement game opponents seemed like they were any good (and I'm not amazing either). The reset was patch 15  | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
Wins, losses, and the MMR of the opponents you've faced. EDIT: FA you'd be a good candidate for this test. Think you could mass game today and see how long it takes for you to get promoted to Diamond? =] | ||
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
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jusayO
Canada60 Posts
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:50 Zelniq wrote: so..we don't know if Diamond even exists right? lol With the amazing Bnet 2.0 that does every attempt in hiding every bit of information for it's users, maybe time will tell. Once people on Teamliquid.net actually start posting screenshots or you, yourself, farm enough games to get promoted, we will see if it still exists. Until then we are left in the dark of the massive Bnet 2.0 censorship. Seeing people like rox.kis.BratOK going 15-0 in my division and still being plat has me wondering if Diamond still exists. | ||
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Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:48 Excalibur_Z wrote: Wins, losses, and the MMR of the opponents you've faced. EDIT: FA you'd be a good candidate for this test. Think you could mass game today and see how long it takes for you to get promoted to Diamond? =] Well then how does rating, record and how successful you are not having anything to do with it? Its not going to be an exact science, but it'll give you a good indicator of where you stand. Its the best we've got, since we don't have those actual MMR numbers, after all. Although, from my understand, isn't your rating directly related to your 'hidden' MMR? Isn't it basically the same thing at this point? Beat a bad opponent from a lower bracket? Gain fuckall points. Beat a good one from the same bracket? Gain a few. Beat a great one, from a higher bracket? Gain a buttload. Hidden MMR was a concept they introduced in WoW Arena because its a team-game and they need hidden MMRs to keep an idea of player skill when they join/leave Arena teams all the time. In this game, you're always solo, so your actual MMR is going to be identical to your rating. | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
 The shame, the shame... | ||
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:02 Bibdy wrote: Well then how does rating, record and how successful you are not having anything to do with it? Its not going to be an exact science, but it'll give you a good indicator of where you stand. Its the best we've got, since we don't have those actual MMR numbers, after all. Although, from my understand, isn't your rating directly related to your 'hidden' MMR? Isn't it basically the same thing at this point? Beat a bad opponent from a lower bracket? Gain fuckall points. Beat a good one from the same bracket? Gain a few. Beat a great one, from a higher bracket? Gain a buttload. Hidden MMR was a concept they introduced in WoW Arena because its a team-game and they need hidden MMRs to keep an idea of player skill when they join/leave Arena teams all the time. In this game, you're always solo, so your actual MMR is going to be identical to your rating. The hidden MMR is what allows players to advance very rapidly through lower divisions if they get good. In WoW MMR was made to allow very high skilled players to only play high rated players, same is happening in SC2. Your MMR is spiking excessively to try and match your skill level fast, that's why it has to be hidden, because it would be very akward to see your ratings skyrocket and fall all the time, as it is trying to match your skill as you win more and more games at start. If your point about MMR being identical to your rating is to be true, then how can you face Platinum players when you're still in Silver? That is because you've won a series of games in Silver that has made your MMR become so high that it wants to rank to against Platinum players, if you continue winning you will get promoted to Gold shortly and your MMR will keep going upwards rapidly, until you start losing. The rating you see is only to show your preformance as it gives a better idea of level over time, winning 1 game against IdrA on the ladder doesnt mean you're better than him, you have to keep producing results on the ladder to be ranked number 1. | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
if it still exists, that is On June 05 2010 02:48 Excalibur_Z wrote: Wins, losses, and the MMR of the opponents you've faced. EDIT: FA you'd be a good candidate for this test. Think you could mass game today and see how long it takes for you to get promoted to Diamond? =] hahaha, I"m sure there are plenty of other candidates | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On June 04 2010 22:39 Cheerio wrote: I was top10 diamond in 1v1 2v2 and 3v3 just yesterday. Now I'm gold LOL. I dunno how they changed the placement matches but the skill level is much higher there now. Or mb just bad luck. yea i had to micro to go 5-0 tt | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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Orange Goblin
218 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:33 Thall wrote: i hope this is true, but anyways, blizz already taking a step in the right direction by not placeing people easily into diamond league :D *thumbsup* It wouldn't make much sense after release, though. I mean, imagine all the players who's gonna play SC2. Even with one really huge Diamond league, it would still be very small in comparison with player numbers. Not that I don't like the idea of a super-exclusive league, I'm just saying. | ||
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DLast
United States19 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:40 Amber[LighT] wrote: 5-0 and in plat.. though i don't feel bad.. idras in my division too lol Well if Idra isn't in diamond, perhaps there currently isn't one? | ||
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