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On June 05 2010 04:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 04:12 Neverhood wrote:
-.- Here I am thinking blizzard is making improvements to the ladder system and actually listening to what we say by making an elite league when they really just screwed up...really disappointing *sigh* I agree. I was hoping it'd be something like a week of gaming for a good player to be promoted from Platinum to Diamond. In my opinion, make Diamond .1% of the population and put everyone in Diamond in one Division. Every competitive player would love that (even if they don't make it into Diamond -- it'd be a meaningful goal) and every person interested in competitive gaming would love it too. And what's the drawback for everyone else? I don't see one.
would be great to have one diamond division with the top100 or so players on the server, like you said both for you and for people like me who just likes following the top players.
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Make diamond the top 1000 players on the server. This will make it feel speciel, just like it was speciel to get ranked in wc3.
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I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...
Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us.
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nice, my hopes got crushed. thx blizzard...
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On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
They said they will do that?
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yay i dont feel bad for going 4-1 anymore :D
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from a blue , We are aware of the issue that is preventing players from accessing the Diamond league. We are currently looking into this and will provide more information as it becomes available.
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170841321&sid=5000
obviously having to make your way to diamond from platinum was a too smart idea , it had to be a bug
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I have two accounts and am in diamond in both and one I only won four of my placement matches. I think if you are matched up with tough enough oppenents during your placement you can get there. Did anyone else find it easier to get in the top league in the new match system? I used to be top gold but never platinum 1v1.
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On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...
Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us.
Pro will be invite-only.
The thing is that Blizzard wants to make participating in ladder meaningful. For everyone who isn't at a really high skill level, their solution is Leagues and Divisions. They've defended and explained that. I think it's fine. But for people at a high skill level, and for the fans/followers of people at a high skill level, this Leagues and Divisions system does not make ladder meaningful. Pro league will be one solution to that. But it won't completely solve it. People in the top 1,000-10,000 or so will want to know what their global ranking is. If there's 1,000,000 people playing, that's the top 0.1%-1%.
Also, I think people in Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze would like to know what bracket they're in, like if being the best Silver player in the system means you're better than 50% of people and worse than 50% of people, and if being the worst Silver player means you're better than 25% of people and worse than 75% of people, etc, then people would like to know those numbers. So while they can focus on ranking up in their divisions and be competitive that way, they also have an idea of their global ranking. They can have goals like being an above-average player, which means being in the top 50%, but currently there's no way to know that.
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what kind o division is Zealot Indigo.... and no one famous is in my div T__T
btw, anyone think its worth to play ladder these day? ~_~
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On June 05 2010 04:51 Holywow wrote:
I have two accounts and am in diamond in both and one I only won four of my placement matches. I think if you are matched up with tough enough oppenents during your placement you can get there. Did anyone else find it easier to get in the top league in the new match system? I used to be top gold but never platinum 1v1.
screen shot or it didn't happen
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On June 05 2010 04:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 04:12 Neverhood wrote:
-.- Here I am thinking blizzard is making improvements to the ladder system and actually listening to what we say by making an elite league when they really just screwed up...really disappointing *sigh* I agree. I was hoping it'd be something like a week of gaming for a good player to be promoted from Platinum to Diamond. In my opinion, make Diamond .1% of the population and put everyone in Diamond in one Division. Every competitive player would love that (even if they don't make it into Diamond -- it'd be a meaningful goal) and every person interested in competitive gaming would love it too. And what's the drawback for everyone else? I don't see one.
Completely 100% agree. I'd love to fight my way into that kind of diamond, but even if I failed, I'd be happy to know that A) The goal exists, B) Blizzard cares about the competitive community, C) I can see how players at the top match up against others.On June 05 2010 04:51 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...
Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us. Pro will be invite-only. The thing is that Blizzard wants to make participating in ladder meaningful. For everyone who isn't at a really high skill level, their solution is Leagues and Divisions. They've defended and explained that. I think it's fine. But for people at a high skill level, and for the fans/followers of people at a high skill level, this Leagues and Divisions system does not make ladder meaningful. Pro league will be one solution to that. But it won't completely solve it. People in the top 1,000-10,000 or so will want to know what their global ranking is. If there's 1,000,000 people playing, that's the top 0.1%-1%. Also, I think people in Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze would like to know what bracket they're in, like if being the best Silver player in the system means you're better than 50% of people and worse than 50% of people, and if being the worst Silver player means you're better than 25% of people and worse than 75% of people, etc, then people would like to know those numbers. So while they can focus on ranking up in their divisions and be competitive that way, they also have an idea of their global ranking. They can have goals like being an above-average player, which means being in the top 50%, but currently there's no way to know that.
These are also some very strong arguments. And to add to it, if the player doesn't want to see their global ranking, can't there be some option to hide it from them (default)? That way, there's truly no way for a player's feelings to be hurt unless he intentionally goes into the options to be able to see this global ranking.
Blizzard would have to listen to their player base for that, though.
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On June 05 2010 04:51 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...
Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us. Pro will be invite-only. The thing is that Blizzard wants to make participating in ladder meaningful. For everyone who isn't at a really high skill level, their solution is Leagues and Divisions. They've defended and explained that. I think it's fine. But for people at a high skill level, and for the fans/followers of people at a high skill level, this Leagues and Divisions system does not make ladder meaningful. Pro league will be one solution to that. But it won't completely solve it. People in the top 1,000-10,000 or so will want to know what their global ranking is. If there's 1,000,000 people playing, that's the top 0.1%-1%. Also, I think people in Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze would like to know what bracket they're in, like if being the best Silver player in the system means you're better than 50% of people and worse than 50% of people, and if being the worst Silver player means you're better than 25% of people and worse than 75% of people, etc, then people would like to know those numbers. So while they can focus on ranking up in their divisions and be competitive that way, they also have an idea of their global ranking. They can have goals like being an above-average player, which means being in the top 50%, but currently there's no way to know that.
oh btw, i dont think the "pro league" will be ranked so division is something "not necessary" dont you think?
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So are they just going to reset the whole ladder if this is a bug? Is there a point to playing games right now?
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On June 05 2010 05:07 Forlorn wrote:
So are they just going to reset the whole ladder if this is a bug? Is there a point to playing games right now?
Was there ever a point to playing games other than to practice?
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On June 05 2010 05:06 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2010 04:51 Liquid`NonY wrote:On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.
At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...
Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us. Pro will be invite-only. The thing is that Blizzard wants to make participating in ladder meaningful. For everyone who isn't at a really high skill level, their solution is Leagues and Divisions. They've defended and explained that. I think it's fine. But for people at a high skill level, and for the fans/followers of people at a high skill level, this Leagues and Divisions system does not make ladder meaningful. Pro league will be one solution to that. But it won't completely solve it. People in the top 1,000-10,000 or so will want to know what their global ranking is. If there's 1,000,000 people playing, that's the top 0.1%-1%. Also, I think people in Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze would like to know what bracket they're in, like if being the best Silver player in the system means you're better than 50% of people and worse than 50% of people, and if being the worst Silver player means you're better than 25% of people and worse than 75% of people, etc, then people would like to know those numbers. So while they can focus on ranking up in their divisions and be competitive that way, they also have an idea of their global ranking. They can have goals like being an above-average player, which means being in the top 50%, but currently there's no way to know that. oh btw, i dont think the "pro league" will be ranked so division is something "not necessary" dont you think?
I'm not sure what will happen with Pro league. They haven't said much about it. I have kind of assumed that it'd have less than 100 people so there wouldn't be a need to talk about divisions for it. I really have no idea.
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We should all post in the bnet forums about how great this new feature is. Then Blizz may not take back their 'accident'.
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I went 10-2 and got put into diamond
edit: that was patch 13 srry
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I just saw a guy with 600 points and not upgraded to diamond yet (and a couple of 500 point players as well still in platinum)
Assuming there is an actual mark you have to reach to get promoted, 1000 points seems like the next logical conclusion since 500 doesnt get promoted.
If my random guess is right then I dont think there will be a full diamond league before beta servers go offline
even if the mark is something like ~750 points, I still don't think there will be filled league w/ 100 players
I'm really liking this concept of making diamond league something you have to achieve
Now there wont be a new division made every time ~100 players go 5-0 in easy placement matches
basically flooding the league with 50000 divisions
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5-0 diamond. The last 2 matches were against very skilled opponents, must be why.
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