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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
June 04 2010 20:28 GMT
#161
On June 05 2010 05:04 Buddhist wrote:
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On June 05 2010 04:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On June 05 2010 04:12 Neverhood wrote:
-.- Here I am thinking blizzard is making improvements to the ladder system and actually listening to what we say by making an elite league when they really just screwed up...really disappointing *sigh*

I agree. I was hoping it'd be something like a week of gaming for a good player to be promoted from Platinum to Diamond. In my opinion, make Diamond .1% of the population and put everyone in Diamond in one Division. Every competitive player would love that (even if they don't make it into Diamond -- it'd be a meaningful goal) and every person interested in competitive gaming would love it too. And what's the drawback for everyone else? I don't see one.

Completely 100% agree. I'd love to fight my way into that kind of diamond, but even if I failed, I'd be happy to know that A) The goal exists, B) Blizzard cares about the competitive community, C) I can see how players at the top match up against others.
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On June 05 2010 04:51 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On June 05 2010 04:39 intergalactic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "Pro" league they intend to implement will be a single division. So no need to do that with Diamond.

At least, I hope it is the case. I mean, there can't be 100 divisions worth of Pro players...

Also, this Diamond league thing being a bug is very depressing. I was actually beginning to wonder if Blizzard was listening to us.

Pro will be invite-only.

The thing is that Blizzard wants to make participating in ladder meaningful. For everyone who isn't at a really high skill level, their solution is Leagues and Divisions. They've defended and explained that. I think it's fine. But for people at a high skill level, and for the fans/followers of people at a high skill level, this Leagues and Divisions system does not make ladder meaningful. Pro league will be one solution to that. But it won't completely solve it. People in the top 1,000-10,000 or so will want to know what their global ranking is. If there's 1,000,000 people playing, that's the top 0.1%-1%.

Also, I think people in Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze would like to know what bracket they're in, like if being the best Silver player in the system means you're better than 50% of people and worse than 50% of people, and if being the worst Silver player means you're better than 25% of people and worse than 75% of people, etc, then people would like to know those numbers. So while they can focus on ranking up in their divisions and be competitive that way, they also have an idea of their global ranking. They can have goals like being an above-average player, which means being in the top 50%, but currently there's no way to know that.

These are also some very strong arguments. And to add to it, if the player doesn't want to see their global ranking, can't there be some option to hide it from them (default)? That way, there's truly no way for a player's feelings to be hurt unless he intentionally goes into the options to be able to see this global ranking.

Blizzard would have to listen to their player base for that, though.


Agreed, and NonY does bring up some very good points. However, if Blizzard wants the game to be the competitive ESPORTS RTS then they need to literally not care about what casuals think (i.e. if their feelings get hurt because they are ranked 100/100 in the worst division of the worst league). The game would have to be designed solely with competition in mind as far as features go.

Unfortunately, it appears their motto is "We cater to those who suck to try and make them suck less" just like in WoW (Disclaimer: Not their actual slogan) and that will ultimately have a negative impact on the competitive community.
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
June 04 2010 20:29 GMT
#162
On June 05 2010 05:25 billyX333 wrote:
I just saw a guy with 600 points and not upgraded to diamond yet (and a couple of 500 point players as well still in platinum)

Assuming there is an actual mark you have to reach to get promoted, 1000 points seems like the next logical conclusion since 500 doesnt get promoted.

If my random guess is right then I dont think there will be a full diamond league before beta servers go offline
even if the mark is something like ~750 points, I still don't think there will be filled league w/ 100 players

I'm really liking this concept of making diamond league something you have to achieve
Now there wont be a new division made every time ~100 players go 5-0 in easy placement matches
basically flooding the league with 50000 divisions


blzz already said its a bug
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
June 04 2010 20:31 GMT
#163
On June 05 2010 05:29 virusak wrote:
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On June 05 2010 05:25 billyX333 wrote:
I just saw a guy with 600 points and not upgraded to diamond yet (and a couple of 500 point players as well still in platinum)

Assuming there is an actual mark you have to reach to get promoted, 1000 points seems like the next logical conclusion since 500 doesnt get promoted.

If my random guess is right then I dont think there will be a full diamond league before beta servers go offline
even if the mark is something like ~750 points, I still don't think there will be filled league w/ 100 players

I'm really liking this concept of making diamond league something you have to achieve
Now there wont be a new division made every time ~100 players go 5-0 in easy placement matches
basically flooding the league with 50000 divisions


blzz already said its a bug


wow shame on me for not reading thread
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
June 04 2010 20:33 GMT
#164
Terrible thread. Why is this 9 pages?
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