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On June 04 2010 23:07 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 23:03 Hider wrote:On June 04 2010 22:56 Drazzzt wrote:
Ah! Finally!
That's great. Finally it seems that diamond means diamond now.
Since diamond was introduced half the ppl I played in diamond didn't belong there to be honest...
And the platinum ranks were an absolute joke. Sorry, but true.
I hope that they are not only assessing the 5 placement matches, but also APM, average ressources spent, etc. pp. and that they choose the opponents during placement much more carefully.
Thanks blizzard.
Yes getting rewarded for spamming alot, and getting punished by playing 200/200 armyies, in which you cant get spent ressources. Andf getting punished by having good strategy vs micro. That would just be stupid. Wins are the only things that should matter. IMO you are wrong. Of course, you would have to consider only non 200/200 times, but only wins does only work with 10+ placement matches and a very careful choice of the opponents. Winning should of corse be the primary factor.
So skill lvl should not be the deciding factor? There is not reason to overvalue micro/micro in comparison to strategy. Wins instead factor and weights correctly micro vs macro vs strategy, and shows your correct skill lv over time. Who cares if one guy gets placed into gold instead of silver because he was lucky. Over time he will fall down to silver if he is not good enough.
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I went 5-0 and got put into Platinum, everyone in my division is 5-0 as well.
I didn't play anyone competent though. Perhaps it is possible to get Diamond if you beat good players during placement?
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Does anyone know if Diamond still, truly, exists?
To be honest I never quite liked the 'diamond' name so I wont lose much sleep if it's gone. It would be cool to have some sort of invite only top tier league though from the best of the best at platinum level.
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Yeah I got placed in Plat, and.. there are many good players in plat now all trying to get into diamond so plat ain't easy :S
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Well so far only 1 person in this whole thread said he was diamond, after his placement of 5-0 (look in page 1).
Rest of us are 5-0 and plat, I don't know but I still have not seen 1 screenshot of diamond or confirmation whatsoever..it might have disapeared
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On June 04 2010 23:16 kar1181 wrote:
Does anyone know if Diamond still, truly, exists?
To be honest I never quite liked the 'diamond' name so I wont lose much sleep if it's gone. It would be cool to have some sort of invite only top tier league though from the best of the best at platinum level.
yes everybody is talking about diamond but no one proved to be in it
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On June 04 2010 23:10 ichimarugin680 wrote:
I don't think it matters if u are really good ur skills will show it regardless of leagues
you dont get the point, people want to compare their skill with other players and tournaments are usually not a good way for that.
sure the top players will get in the semis but the good players will always need gridluck. sometimes you see even in esl cup really bad players in the round of 5/6 cause of gridluck and good players eliminated in round 1/2.
with ladder/divisons you can see "ok he is my level", but right now you dont see anything, because top diamond and bottom diamond was like bronze and platinum.
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I think we will find out later tonight
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I am really curious if this is a bug or a mistake or if they actually listened to the many requests for a more difficult process to get into diamond. I hope it is the latter but it seems that it would had been in the patch notes if it was the case.
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How needy does someone have to be to actually care this much about the league he's in? especially during the BETA and with a ladder reset every week...
As long as you get to play against opponents on the same level as yours, you should be happy -.-
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It was mentioned in the patch notes, just not explicitly stated.
I think it's a good change. The highest league SHOULD be something you need to work into.
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On June 04 2010 23:21 Cheebah wrote:
How needy does someone have to be to actually care this much about the league he's in? especially during the BETA and with a ladder reset every week...
As long as you get to play against opponents on the same level as yours, you should be happy -.-
Ladders are simply fun 
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I still think they should bring copper back though, otherwise I think this is a great move, then in the retail version, I'm guessing, the highest/best diamonds will get invited into the pro league.
Seems like a really good competitive set up, now all we need is global and realm leaderboards...
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On June 04 2010 23:20 ymirheim wrote:
I am really curious if this is a bug or a mistake or if they actually listened to the many requests for a more difficult process to get into diamond. I hope it is the latter but it seems that it would had been in the patch notes if it was the case.
Seriously?
General
* Improved the system that handles initial placement and promotion/relegation between Leagues & Ladders.
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Seems like a good move by Blizzard.
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How needy does someone have to be to actually care this much about the league he's in? especially during the BETA and with a ladder reset every week...
As long as you get to play against opponents on the same level as yours, you should be happy -.-
So says the frustrated silver league player  Sorry lad, had to go for it... But i agree with you. I beat my friends in platinum when it was the top division while I was in gold and thats why I never cared for the leagues really. I just want a global ranking to see were i stand at the sc2 release....
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what i fail to understand is.. how people fail to see .. if you are a good player you will end up in the league your supposed to be in, i started in copper never played rts to even a "standard" level as when starcraft 1 came out i was a 10 year old white kid living in england so i didnt get "into" it
and just worked my way into diamond, and i will continue to do the same,
And as ichimarguin said, league means what?? at the end of the day its down to your Actual skilllevel
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On June 04 2010 23:29 PaddyPower wrote:
what i fail to understand is.. how people fail to see .. if you are a good player you will end up in the league your supposed to be in, i started in copper never played rts to even a "standard" level as when starcraft 1 came out i was a 10 year old white kid living in england so i didnt get "into" it
and just worked my way into diamond, and i will continue to do the same,
And as ichimarguin said, league means what?? at the end of the day its down to your Actual skilllevel
When I was ranked first in diamond, it pitted me against people not even close to my skill. Got to the point where I just in housed instead. So I would agree that yes I was in the correct league, but that's not the issue.
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neans is 19-2 and still in platinum
select 17-4 still in platinum, he said the ladder improved as the games are harder now but i think its just small sample size lol
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