Exactly. Especially since now blizzard clearly states @ loading screen: To win a multiplayer game, you need to DESTROY ALL OF YOUR OPPONENT'S STRUCTURES... or be the only one left in the game.

You have accomplished neither of these.

Fumi

529 Posts

April 24 2010 15:22 GMT

#62

I still didn't run into a lot of bm people, luckily. The worst I've got so far was this guy who DT rushed me and said gg as his DTs got to my base. I was confused since I'd obviously have trouble repelling it, until he said "gg, it's over, leave" shortly afterwards.

About the match, yeah, it's a draw. But would a draw button really work? I mean, assuming the button would ask your opponent to accept a draw, he can just refuse and be annoying..

Djzapz

Canada10681 Posts

April 24 2010 15:23 GMT

#63

I BM all the time ^^

Craz

United States69 Posts

April 24 2010 15:23 GMT

#64

Terran wins, cause in a few days your zerglings and overlords will die of hunger thus leaving terran with 3 buildings to your 2. Until then it's a tie, and you are being as much BM as him. I don't get how you think you are being more mannered than he is when you are doing the same exact thing he is. You can't kill his king, he can't kill yours.. it's a stalemate move on.

It's beta no one cares about your record or rating (rating system is extremely broken). Play the game to learn (so you can be better at release) and find bugs to try and make SC2 as good or better than BW.

tyCe

Australia2542 Posts

April 24 2010 15:24 GMT

#65

On April 24 2010 23:14 Sl4ktarN wrote:
The reason why im posting this is becouse Im currently in a game that looks like this:

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Im pretty tired so I didnt wanna bother myself with Micro so instead of taking his army head on I took a nydus worm into his base and hoped he would return to try and save it. He didnt, but Ive done this a lot of times. I take some of my drones off so I can build some buildings so I dont lose instantly. Then he lifts his raxxes. Now Ive got around 30 lings patrolling my 2 extractors and a douchebag who wont GG left.

Ive been noticing that ppl are more Bad Mannered in SC2 than they were in BW. Myself I rage quite a lot but I always admit defeat and I dont call people anything racist or homophobic. Have you guys noticed this too?

You didn't win, it's a stalemate. If this happened in a tournament, then a draw would be called.

Here, it's not BM at all. You made a choice to base trade and it meant that you now cannot win. The other player is at no fault.

omninmo

2349 Posts

April 24 2010 15:25 GMT

#66

On April 24 2010 23:18 grobo wrote:
SC2 is "the shit" right now, it's going to be filled to the brim with angsty teenagers for the first couple of months/years.

couldn't have said it better. so i quoted it.

somehow by floating your buildings away a player such as this can rationalize not scouting.

EDIT: this is a stalemate. not your win.. but its still pretty BM. there should be a VOTE for TIE option. the tie would give you neither a win nor a loss. no points exchange. no record of ties. just a gentlemanly agreement off the record.

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

April 24 2010 15:25 GMT

#67

On April 25 2010 00:22 Fumi wrote:
I still didn't run into a lot of bm people, luckily. The worst I've got so far was this guy who DT rushed me and said gg as his DTs got to my base. I was confused since I'd obviously have trouble repelling it, until he said "gg, it's over, leave" shortly afterwards.

About the match, yeah, it's a draw. But would a draw button really work? I mean, assuming the button would ask your opponent to accept a draw, he can just refuse and be annoying..

You could add something like... if there have been no more units made/lost in the next 5 minutes after draw was suggested, player who refused it loses.

Or more conditions to keep it fair. But it's doable.

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

April 24 2010 15:28 GMT

#68

cry me rivers of tears

Slunk

Germany768 Posts

April 24 2010 15:35 GMT

#69

I actually think the ability to float around your buildings infinitely is kinda annoying and somewhat unfair, so if you basetrade as zerg or protoss, you are screwed because in those situations this would have been a sure loss for any race except for terran.
Not to mention floating to islands.

mynameisbean

Australia82 Posts

April 24 2010 15:37 GMT

#70

LOL wow everyone's so steamed in this thread.

I can understand why people do those um... BM things. I used to do them heaps in SC1.

Just think of it as the noob's only way of fighting back! From my noobish perspective - I always got beat, so I'd litter the map with unfinished buildings, and what not, and just whale on people after they'd raped me.

It's just a part of the game. Some people have to compensate in this way for not being as good a player as you are. Just take it for what it really is (i.e a HUGE compliment!), and you'll be fine. =)

Kinslayer

United States129 Posts

April 24 2010 15:39 GMT

#71

Just wait until the game is out and has been around past the "honey moon" period. With the influx of non-SC players, you will experience some very colorful and creative BM.

PoP-sicle

Canada418 Posts

April 24 2010 15:47 GMT

#72

On April 24 2010 23:33 Ftrunkz wrote:

Show nested quote +

Absolutely horrible decision by mods, ridiculously bad and i cant think of any decent tournament that would do this.

This game is a draw.

well it was a tourney on east so cant expect much :-)

Pape

Serbia419 Posts

April 24 2010 15:47 GMT

#73

I think BW was really filtered out from all the noobs and people that didn't understand the game in the last couple of years so you didn't see as much BM. Now there will be lots of new kids, some who weren't even born when SC was released in 1998 playing this game and they will be very BM. It is just the nature, but hopefully players like this will quickly be discouraged from playing 1v1s when money maps and larger team games are released like 4v4 and ums maps and such...

oxxo

988 Posts

April 24 2010 15:48 GMT

#74

Half the people here didn't even look at the pictures. There is no BM. It's a draw. The only one being BM is the OP for coming here to post it...

Also this younger generation needs to chill. EVERYTHING is BM/Cheese to them.

Bibbit

Canada5377 Posts

April 24 2010 15:50 GMT

#75

On April 25 2010 00:35 Slunk wrote:
I actually think the ability to float around your buildings infinitely is kinda annoying and somewhat unfair, so if you basetrade as zerg or protoss, you are screwed because in those situations this would have been a sure loss for any race except for terran.
Not to mention floating to islands.

Just thinking out loud here but maybe you could like not base trade with terrans if you find it impossible to win like that?

But to op: Like said a bunch of times already, you cant win either, you're being as BM as he is. Actually I would say more because you came and posted a thread about it.

Fumi

529 Posts

April 24 2010 15:53 GMT

#76

On April 25 2010 00:48 oxxo wrote:
Half the people here didn't even look at the pictures. There is no BM. It's a draw. The only one being BM is the OP for coming here to post it...

Also this younger generation needs to chill. EVERYTHING is BM/Cheese to them.

90% of the people here are posting the same thing you just did...

Kezzer

United States1268 Posts

April 24 2010 15:53 GMT

#77

OP I have a question, if you guys base traded like this how did he lose his army? Was there an actual confrontation? A replay would be appreciated.

EDIT: I guess there is no replay yet because the game is still going on according to the OP xD

Hush

United States24 Posts

April 24 2010 15:53 GMT

#78

The concept of manner and such happened years after SC was released. I hope you realize this. The norms of the game developed over time.
SC has been around 12 years it isn't like people who have been playing it since the begining haven't come and gone but a lot of us have adopted these norms. But expect a huge influx of new people especially those of which who have never learned the norms of current players. Not to mention with new people younger people. I am scared to know how old the average age of the new sc2 player will be. However best thing we can do is set an example.
I mean really even Day9 used to disconnect when he was about to lose back in the day.

What drives me nuts is when all people say is bad manner everything! That one person who streams (that girl or really femmy sounding guy is the worst for it).. Pylon bad manner, Marauders bad manner ect. ARG $#%#+ Over use of the word bad manner is bad manner.

But I'm not sure why you are mad? You didn't have a diverse force to just go kill his flying buildings? I think there's only one person to be mad at in that case.

Can you not ally in sc2? I have not tried it would be better than just waiting people out anyways.

mennoknight

United States2 Posts

April 24 2010 15:56 GMT

#79

I wouldn't call this BM. On the other hand, if this happened to me, I would concede as the terran after a short while (3-5 min) simply because I can't build any units and if I wanted to watch buildings float I would play the computer.

That being said, it all depends on the attitude of the person I'm playing. If they rush and destroy me, I'll let it go, if they're one of those people who, after they start the rush say "you should just leave now noob." I'll make them hunt for every building. 9/10 those players were using cheese strats, and insulting another player like that is BM, especially if you beat them using cheese.