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I'd say there's more BM in sc2 than sc1, but largely because the general public usually played on Battle.net, not ICCup. People on ICCup were generally more serious about RTS, whereas you've got joe random and his mother playing now.
Best BM so far was in 2v2 where a guy paused the game then left.
Im pretty tired so I didnt wanna bother myself with Micro so instead of taking his army head on I took a nydus worm into his base and hoped he would return to try and save it. He didnt, but Ive done this a lot of times. I take some of my drones off so I can build some buildings so I dont lose instantly. Then he lifts his raxxes. Now Ive got around 30 lings patrolling my 2 extractors and a douchebag who wont GG left.
That's also not BM, since neither one of you should win.
SC2 needs some kind of stalemate capability.
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Easily a draw. Blizz needs to implement a "vote on draw" button that isn't obtrusive so real bm players don't spam it all game long.
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The only bm I faced so far was one player hiding pylons until I killed him off 1 minute later, and a few people raging about imbalance and picking the imba race is a good talent toi have.
I think the top platinum ranks on EU are pretty mannered overall.
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amazing
"why won't this guy cede a game to me that I lost"
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the thing I not understand is ... why should HE leave ?
why arent U bm because U dont leave ?
On April 25 2010 05:59 spinesheath wrote:
I think the top platinum ranks on EU are pretty mannered overall.
as i said i get so often flamed with "get cancer" or "motherfucker" and even see people call white-ra ones that i cant agree here
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I don't mind BM if I'm winning. It means not only did I beat him in the match, I beat him psychologically as well. Any time you get a person to rage you gain an advantage, which you usually have even before the person BMs.
If I get BM when I'm losing ("you suck") that doesn't bother me either. These tend to be the same people who BM when they lose as well. I'm too old at this point to care.
FWIW, I always say GLHF before the match and GG after. I see no constructive use for BM in game, personally.
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neither of you won...neither of you could win..its not BM
base trading with terran is usually a terrible idea because of the lift off mechanic
maybe youll think about this when you all-in nydus worm next time
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Hey there fellow tl-members,
i was the terran at this aforementioned game. To give you a small insight in my point of view:
He did a speedling, nydus, 1-base all-in. i stood in front of his base with my army, had expanded and instead of defending my base, i decided to go for the base trade. As soon as my army entered his base, mr. "you-are-bm" here typed me a "just gg". Normally i would have left instant and just got into the next game, but i needed a break anyway and decided to teach him a small lesson 
10 minutes before i got my 24h disconnect he left and gave me the win.
I won't give any further statements to this "issue". It was a definite draw, it wasn't the nicest win in history, but it was a win and i am fine with it
GL HF to you all
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I used to be BM but then I saw IdrA and his BM. Now Im saint toward that guy.
glhf and gg at the end. Sometimes few questions and smiles..
:D
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On April 25 2010 06:47 ArdentZeal wrote:Hey there fellow tl-members, i was the terran at this aforementioned game. To give you a small insight in my point of view: He did a speedling, nydus, 1-base all-in. i stood in front of his base with my army, had expanded and instead of defending my base, i decided to go for the base trade. As soon as my army entered his base, mr. "you-are-bm" here typed me a "just gg". Normally i would have left instant and just got into the next game, but i needed a break anyway and decided to teach him a small lesson 10 minutes before i got my 24h disconnect he left and gave me the win. I won't give any further statements to this "issue". It was a definite draw, it wasn't the nicest win in history, but it was a win and i am fine with it GL HF to you all
i found this quite hilarious...
the boy who cried BM was indeed BM himself
im glad you taught this kid a lesson and got the win to boot!
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too bad this isn't BM. it's just a stalemate.
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On April 25 2010 07:07 hp.Methos wrote:
too bad this isn't BM. it's just a stalemate.
It is bm to offensively gg though. Not so bad if your opponent is only trying to delay the game, but in this case it was a clear draw. Typing "just gg" is kinda bm in this case.
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I've noticed tonnes of people say gg then do not leave... I had a guy who forge fe'd to a gold mineral patch on lost temple, I kill it and he says gg... only to find he had ran to the other gold expo and then said GG for real. -_-;
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On April 25 2010 07:11 k20a wrote:
I've noticed tonnes of people say gg then do not leave... I had a guy who forge fe'd to a gold mineral patch on lost temple, I kill it and he says gg... only to find he had ran to the other gold expo and then said GG for real. -_-;
tonnes is tons in english 
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To the OP, that is not BM, you fought to a draw, this has happened in pro games too + Show Spoiler +Rock v Chalrenge epicness
That being said I have noticed more BM in SCII, or not necessarily straight up BM but just lack of proper etiquette. I think people who still played BW after all those years were pretty hardcore about it whereas the beta is also attracting more casual players who may just be less informed.
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in my last 50 or so games I haven't had anyone gg. all it is is me saying gl hf at the start and if I lose I say gg. nobody gg's anymore because it's beta. but once the people complaining about not being able to play and saying they should yes it before the release (the fuckin idiots on the b.net forums) and only people who buy the game are playing it will get better. and eventually the rich kids who buy it and play for only a few months will quit and it will be back to normal.
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I HATE when terran does this. Yes i didn't win, but ughh 
I also hate it how its not possible to trade bases with terran and all in attack because he just lifts something off and you get eliminated before he does. And since protoss air is lacking, you probably don't have any air units to follow his buildings. And if you DO manage to fend his army off and you are left with a weak army and no nexus and not enough minerals to build one, terran is fine because he can just mine away at an island. And if he has no workers? then he just mules away...
Sorry for whining, just had to get this out of me real quick, the right thing to do is to make yourself believe everything's balanced so you find different creative ways to overcome it.
Banshees are still OP tho
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On April 25 2010 00:22 exeprime wrote:
I used to hate it when people left without saying gg, it felt very rude. Now I kinda like it, it usually means they're pissed off, that makes me smile. Also the reason I always gg.
I don't understand this assumption that so many people make. Maybe it's because for YOU to leave without GG'ing YOU would have to be pissed? Not everyone is like you. Not everyone GG's. I didn't for like 8 years until I started following the pro scene. Does it mean I was pissed...or did it mean I just didn't know it was expected to, or just didn't care? Maybe you should realize it's just a game and you shouldn't get mad because of a loss.
Also: deriving pleasure from the suffering of others is a really great quality to have. I hope you're proud of that.
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As far as GG'ing goes, in my opinion once an action becomes so expected it's rude not to do, it's not really a matter of etiquette anymore; it's forced and has no meaning. And so then it doesn't mean what it should when a really polite person GG's, even though he may have really thought so. It's not like "please" and "thank you." It's not like you're doing him a favor by playing him, so he really doesn't owe you anything. And if HE doesn't think it was a nice experience playing you, why should you care? Just don't play him again, or at least not until he might think otherwise. I really hope GG'ing becomes less standard, and certainly not expected in the future. That way you can give someone a quick complement when they played a good game, and they'll know it was a complement since it's not a common occurrence.
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I've had a lot of people bitch about my play, usually when I go four warpgate while taking my nat during my first push. Just had a guy on Scrap tell me I was a noob all-inner when I had my expo up before him and did a timing attack on his one-base colossi rush. When I asked him why it was so all in considering I had gotten my expo up before him and destroyed his pre-colossus army he said it was because I destroyed the rocks on the short path  . He then also wished me luck in plat with my "sloppy play", I guess it's so sloppy that's why I've consistently been in the top 15 of my plat divisions since the first day of beta
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On April 25 2010 07:34 LonelyMargarita wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2010 00:22 exeprime wrote:
I used to hate it when people left without saying gg, it felt very rude. Now I kinda like it, it usually means they're pissed off, that makes me smile. Also the reason I always gg. I don't understand this assumption that so many people make. Maybe it's because for YOU to leave without GG'ing YOU would have to be pissed? Not everyone is like you. Not everyone GG's. I didn't for like 8 years until I started following the pro scene. Does it mean I was pissed...or did it mean I just didn't know it was expected to, or just didn't care? Maybe you should realize it's just a game and you shouldn't get mad because of a loss. Also: deriving pleasure from the suffering of others is a really great quality to have. I hope you're proud of that. ... As far as GG'ing goes, in my opinion once an action becomes so expected it's rude not to do, it's not really a matter of etiquette anymore; it's forced and has no meaning. And so then it doesn't mean what it should when a really polite person GG's, even though he may have really thought so. It's not like "please" and "thank you." It's not like you're doing him a favor by playing him, so he really doesn't owe you anything. And if HE doesn't think it was a nice experience playing you, why should you care? Just don't play him again, or at least not until he might think otherwise. I really hope GG'ing becomes less standard, and certainly not expected in the future. That way you can give someone a quick complement when they played a good game, and they'll know it was a complement since it's not a common occurrence.
I think you are being a bit over-dramatic about GG. You make it sound like it should come from the heart just the same as saying "I love you" to your significant other. Saying GG is simply a way to be respectful and keep a clean, positive attitude in the game. Compare that to FPS communities, whether it be COD, CS, or even Halo, and you'll be happy things are the way they are. The FPS communities do not have nearly the same sense of dignity, and it shows. They're disgusting. The importance of saying GG doesn't come from genuinely feeling as though the game was very good and thus deserves merit. It is more so maintaining high standards so that the Starcraft scene continues to be a good place.
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