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jcu
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada93 Posts
April 24 2010 18:51 GMT
#161
I would think the beta would be less bm since alot of the people in it have connections so tend to be older and more mature. When the actual game comes out, expect alot more bm and a rise in skill since all the young kids with lots of time and talent will be playing ^^
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
April 24 2010 18:53 GMT
#162
who gives a shit about bm play the damn game. Its a competitive game, its not wow, you dont need to be friends with everyone on the game.

No GG is fine. Infact since people bitch so much about it i leave a ton of games now without saying gg. Who gives a shit. No one said GG way back when...its only a modern thing and its pretty lame.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Wintermute
Profile Joined March 2010
United States427 Posts
April 24 2010 19:00 GMT
#163
On April 25 2010 03:53 Sadist wrote:

No GG is fine. Infact since people bitch so much about it i leave a ton of games now without saying gg. Who gives a shit. No one said GG way back when...its only a modern thing and its pretty lame.


GG is about as old as RTS's are, or at least as old as Starcraft (I didn't play WC2 or Dune online so I can't really tell you about that).

I don't know of a single RTS with a ladder and a competitive community where people don't wish each other luck and say "GG."

No one can force you to say it and frankly I don't think it makes you a terrible person, but it's just not very polite.
Don't let me say this, but you're no worse than me; it's crazy.
AncienTs
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan227 Posts
April 24 2010 19:04 GMT
#164
On April 24 2010 23:18 grobo wrote:
SC2 is "the shit" right now, it's going to be filled to the brim with angsty teenagers for the first couple of months/years.


qft..

i've had 3 out of 10 games (usually every ladder reset) that the kid says "fucking racial-expletive", then leaves.
Starcraft Disclaimer Language: There is no imbalance, nothing is OP.
Mr.E
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States434 Posts
April 24 2010 19:08 GMT
#165
I played about 15 zvz's in ladder before last night's wipe. 6 times someone used that larvae exploit on me. I only lost to 2 of them who actually had a bit of game sense, but that's irrelevant.

I don't really mind when people don't say gg... I'm kinda tired of saying shit that I don't mean just to keep other people unoffended, actually. The formality of it reminds me of the korean BW scene's strict rules that most of us call unnecessary or no fun.
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ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
April 24 2010 19:15 GMT
#166
I just finished a game against this guy who was pretty BM;

Instead of admitted defeat after trying to 1-base Voidray/Carrier me (lol) he starts building nexuses all over the map, which I nail with comsat. Even after I get him down to just an asimilator, he's still talking trash. So I decide to let him sweat a little.

I do all I can to keep myself entertained. I build supply depots around his last building, I expand to every spot on the map, I go and pick off destructable rocks, but the guy doesn't leave. Not only does he not leave, but he's still in the game and responding to my chat. Finally I get fed up with it and 6x nuke him. He remained BM till the end.

Replay available if you'd like.
Bring back 2v2s!
locopuyo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States145 Posts
April 24 2010 19:17 GMT
#167
Every noob and his mom has the beta now that you can get it with pre-order. So of course there's going to be ton of BM going on. Last game I played a 2v2 with a guy who didn't know what a scan was.

But uber LOL at OP for thinking a not leaving a DRAW is BM.
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jdr_
Profile Joined October 2009
United States78 Posts
April 24 2010 19:21 GMT
#168
On April 24 2010 23:14 Sl4ktarN wrote:
The reason why im posting this is becouse Im currently in a game that looks like this:

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Im pretty tired so I didnt wanna bother myself with Micro so instead of taking his army head on I took a nydus worm into his base and hoped he would return to try and save it. He didnt, but Ive done this a lot of times. I take some of my drones off so I can build some buildings so I dont lose instantly. Then he lifts his raxxes. Now Ive got around 30 lings patrolling my 2 extractors and a douchebag who wont GG left.

Ive been noticing that ppl are more Bad Mannered in SC2 than they were in BW. Myself I rage quite a lot but I always admit defeat and I dont call people anything racist or homophobic. Have you guys noticed this too?


If anything I applaud him for getting some revenge on you for playing cheesey and gay. Play a real build and you wont have this problem.
"The left hand side is really going to be a bit of a nervewracking occassion" -Artosis
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 24 2010 19:22 GMT
#169
Played a guy last night, crushed him, but as any lame Terran would do, they lifted. He said to me in chat, "Brb, make mutas or something. I'm gonna afk and make myself a sandwich"

I made corruptors instead. Fuck that guy.
God Bless
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
April 24 2010 19:25 GMT
#170
Going to point out some things most in this thread seem to be missing entirely.

A standing army is > buildings.

The op has a standing army, even if his town was wiped out in the process. The Terran however has zero army. If this were a ZvZ, or ZvP then the player with the remaining standing army would of won without question as they cannot "float" their buildings away. The only reason the Terran player is even in the game is because he chose to exploit an ability of terran and use to to quite frankly be an asshole. Without that ability, the OP clearly won the match.

In a tournament this would be a draw yes, because they are on a timeframe. However I am sorry but the T player in this instance is clearly being the spoil sport as he is the one who has clearly lost. Once again, the Z player has an army that is more then capable of killing those buildings if they lacked the ability to float. The terran player has zero capability to do anything except act like a douchebag.

I do agree with the statement that this is beta and ladder points don't matter. I am merely pointing out the above simple truth of the matter. I really don't like the destroy all structures is an auto win mechanic myself. I have played far too many RTS over the years where both players attacked a home base at the same moment and wiped each others home base entirely out. Then the fight boiled down to a final clash between the two armies and who handled their units better. I sincerely believe that Terran buildings should be forced to land at a certain point.
carwashguy
Profile Joined June 2009
United States175 Posts
April 24 2010 19:27 GMT
#171
On April 25 2010 04:08 Mr.E wrote:
I don't really mind when people don't say gg... I'm kinda tired of saying shit that I don't mean just to keep other people unoffended, actually. .

QFT

"gg" has become a totally empty phrase. It no longer means "that was a good game; I enjoyed it." It means "I'm clicking surrender in 321..."

And for some reason people rage over someone not typing gg! Be happy: you won!
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 19:35:07
April 24 2010 19:32 GMT
#172
That's not BM unless he starts talking shit. It's a completely valid thing to do; there's no reason he has to commit suicide just because you think you deserve the win. It's not about who is in a better situation. The goal of the game is to destroy the enemy's buildings; it's just an inherent advantage for Terrans that they can fly away.

Meh, I agree it is a waste of time but this is no more BM than you making a thread about it. You certainly wouldn't want people to make threads about you when you have a bad day and do something BM would you?

As for the actual thread question: No more and no less. It's just the nature of the internet.
Nothing witty here atm
Izslove
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia69 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 19:39:26
April 24 2010 19:36 GMT
#173
Over all I'd have to say the community isn't that bad so far. You also have to to understand in relation to the "GG" rule there are alot of people new to the RTS genre and I dont believe they are actually being rude they are just ignorant. Give it some time and Im sure all the people you think are BM will catch on. Maybe I'm jsut an optimist though. I know it's weird but I actually start the game with "GG HF" hopeing that we both have a good game and have fun. Luck has no place in a skill based game!

My scouting SCV is always called Frank. When Frank dies I'll usually put up a massive "NOOOOOOO NOT FRANK" gotten some pretty awesome replies from some people after explaining who Frank was . The loss of APM for the 2 seconds spent typing is well worth the replies I get

Edit: BTW that's a draw. Been in the exact same situation a few times, usually I'll just leave because losing 15-20 points that I can get back in the next match is better than sitting around for 3 hours waiting for the other guy to get bored.
Its a walk off!
November.terra
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 19:39:37
April 24 2010 19:37 GMT
#174
I've had beta since 2nd week and I don't think I've seen that many people say gg at the end of the game instead people tend to have to say something smart like "you must be korean" or "you got lucky".

Honestly I dont mind people leaving at the end of the game without typing gg but when they have to say something 'smart' its just annoying.... makes me feel as if there is too many children in the game.

*edit*
Also [I'm only going off the first page] I'm noticing bm ppl seem to exist more in the states..... damn gamestop....
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
April 24 2010 19:38 GMT
#175
On April 25 2010 04:25 Dekoth wrote:
Going to point out some things most in this thread seem to be missing entirely.

A standing army is > buildings.

The op has a standing army, even if his town was wiped out in the process. The Terran however has zero army. If this were a ZvZ, or ZvP then the player with the remaining standing army would of won without question as they cannot "float" their buildings away. The only reason the Terran player is even in the game is because he chose to exploit an ability of terran and use to to quite frankly be an asshole. Without that ability, the OP clearly won the match.

In a tournament this would be a draw yes, because they are on a timeframe. However I am sorry but the T player in this instance is clearly being the spoil sport as he is the one who has clearly lost. Once again, the Z player has an army that is more then capable of killing those buildings if they lacked the ability to float. The terran player has zero capability to do anything except act like a douchebag.

I do agree with the statement that this is beta and ladder points don't matter. I am merely pointing out the above simple truth of the matter. I really don't like the destroy all structures is an auto win mechanic myself. I have played far too many RTS over the years where both players attacked a home base at the same moment and wiped each others home base entirely out. Then the fight boiled down to a final clash between the two armies and who handled their units better. I sincerely believe that Terran buildings should be forced to land at a certain point.


The game's win condition is not to kill all units, its to kill all buildings.

This is a strat game people, if you plan to all in attack and base trade a terran and have no aa then you are basicly shooting for a draw.
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 19:42:47
April 24 2010 19:41 GMT
#176
Personally, I find most of the people to be more GM than usual and actually want to have fun and a few actually want to get better. When moving up placement matchups, I expect people to not be familiar and don't mind if they fail to gg because they just aren't used to the game itself much less etiquette. Plus leaving the game is more annoying; where the heck is alt-q-q?
Nothing witty here atm
thom
Profile Joined March 2010
England105 Posts
April 24 2010 19:41 GMT
#177
I've played about 100 games in total I think and I've only encountered what I'd call bad manners once.
There has been many times where players have just left the game without saying "gg" but that to me doesn't count as bad manners.
The only guy that I've encountered and would label as "BM" was on a friday night and he was clearly drunk, I started the game with my normal "Hi, gl hf" and he responded "fu" and throughout the game he was saying some scrambled insults. The joys of alcohol :D
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
April 24 2010 19:49 GMT
#178
There's a lot of BM in the SC2 beta, but the originally posted game is clearly a draw.
Turn off the radio
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 19:54:11
April 24 2010 19:52 GMT
#179
On April 25 2010 04:25 Dekoth wrote:
Going to point out some things most in this thread seem to be missing entirely.

A standing army is > buildings.

The op has a standing army, even if his town was wiped out in the process. The Terran however has zero army. If this were a ZvZ, or ZvP then the player with the remaining standing army would of won without question as they cannot "float" their buildings away. The only reason the Terran player is even in the game is because he chose to exploit an ability of terran and use to to quite frankly be an asshole. Without that ability, the OP clearly won the match.

In a tournament this would be a draw yes, because they are on a timeframe. However I am sorry but the T player in this instance is clearly being the spoil sport as he is the one who has clearly lost. Once again, the Z player has an army that is more then capable of killing those buildings if they lacked the ability to float. The terran player has zero capability to do anything except act like a douchebag.

I do agree with the statement that this is beta and ladder points don't matter. I am merely pointing out the above simple truth of the matter. I really don't like the destroy all structures is an auto win mechanic myself. I have played far too many RTS over the years where both players attacked a home base at the same moment and wiped each others home base entirely out. Then the fight boiled down to a final clash between the two armies and who handled their units better. I sincerely believe that Terran buildings should be forced to land at a certain point.

Unfortunately for you, you're completely wrong.

Buildings > standing army

The point of the game is to eliminate all of your opponent's buildings. Not units. I can argue that the Terran player is not being a spoil sport or douche, but rather he showed great use of strategy and Terran ability to float by disabling the Zerg's production facilities so that the Zerg can't kill all of his buildings.

In a tournament it would be a draw not because of a timeframe, but rather because it's clear that no one can win. In most cases, a draw is simply remedied by a rematch on the same map. In the Korean BW proleague, a draw can even be considered when both players still have units and an army, but neither player has the resources or ability to destroy the other; as such neither player is willing to attack the other. These situations have occurred before and it is very important to note that Starcraft revolves around buildings.

If you don't like the "destroy all structures" mechanic of Starcraft then this is the wrong game for you. Eliminating all of your opponents buildings has always been the key goal of Starcraft and it has led to many great and exciting games which revolve around an elimination race.
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
April 24 2010 20:13 GMT
#180
I have yet to meet anybody lift off and stuff like that, fortunately. I've occasionally been called stuff like "noob" and so on, even a guy who said "I hope your daddy dies", but that's about it :D.
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