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Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
May 11 2010 11:49 GMT
#121
SC1: 120
SC2: 70
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
May 11 2010 11:51 GMT
#122
Why not do something better? like creating a script that clicks 10 times every minute for 5 minutes, and running it in SC1 and SC2
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 11 2010 12:14 GMT
#123
I get like 250 apm sc2, 350-370 sc1.

There seems like theres less to do, but I can't slow down now.

I think everyone thinks it's 1.35x or something right? or 1.5x?
My. Copy. Is. Here.
fevax
Profile Joined February 2010
Turkey143 Posts
May 11 2010 12:24 GMT
#124
sc1: 80-130
sc2: 70-100
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
May 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#125
theres a program called "sc2gears" that shows you your apm, its like bwchart for sc2. anyways, my apm in bw was anywhere from 180-250 when i was at my best and depending on the matchup, and in sc2 it seems to be 100-120ish. I think the reason why everyone's apm is lower ATM is just because nobody has played the game for 1000 hours and mastered doing everything at top speed in the mid/late game, it seems that everyone over 150 apm right now is just spamming needlessly instead of actually trying to learn the game.
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
May 11 2010 12:48 GMT
#126
LMFAO.
People and their APM issues.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
qazqwezxc
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada91 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 12:52:09
May 11 2010 12:51 GMT
#127
On May 11 2010 21:48 danbel1005 wrote:
LMFAO.
People and their APM issues.


It helps people like to me get better at the game when there are a lack of people that actually give feedback when your sucking.

apm 60 - 70 SC2
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 16:11:57
May 11 2010 16:11 GMT
#128
My average SC2 APM at the end of replays is around 70, but peaks at around 200 in battle (need to get better with my hotkeys for buildings / locations).

Never measured it in BW.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
kevin349
Profile Joined May 2009
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 16:18:55
May 11 2010 16:14 GMT
#129
Here is the math behind the APM difference. You can easily prove that this is correct by going into a game and choosing slower speed setting and easily getting over 1500 apm. If you have any questions or concerns post or pm!

[image loading]

StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
May 11 2010 16:52 GMT
#130
lol love the jpeg
Perfect Balance
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway131 Posts
May 11 2010 17:00 GMT
#131
[image loading]

Inspiration.
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Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 11 2010 17:11 GMT
#132
SC1 : 210
SC2 : 165

not exactly sure on sc2 one, changes every game lol
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
May 11 2010 17:25 GMT
#133
90% of the difference comes from 'invalid' commands. 0p9p0p9p will not result in 6 actions if you don't have enough minerals. The other 10% is from the reduced number of clicks for macro 4d5d6d7d8d can be w shift d click click etc. 6sdddddd and so on. Despite this i think that sc2 is as challenging of a game for speed or even harder. The macro mechanics don't only require you to click now but to shift your focus for 2-3 seconds and then shift it back.. which despite the 4-6 actions is really hard.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Xursian
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada94 Posts
May 11 2010 17:41 GMT
#134
sc1 : 120
sc2 : 80
Play Terran only.
WTFs with Barracks NERF?
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 17:56:11
May 11 2010 17:52 GMT
#135
bw~300
sc2~230

not using any multipliers, 230 is what the in-game apm bar shows
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
May 11 2010 17:54 GMT
#136
i had 220apm in war3 average.. my average in sc2 is like 110
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NightOne
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada215 Posts
May 11 2010 18:06 GMT
#137
On May 12 2010 02:54 LagLovah wrote:
i had 220apm in war3 average.. my average in sc2 is like 110


lies!~ your avg apm in war3 was like 110 as well


my war3 apm was 280.. sc2 apm... 150? no offence to this game.. but it almost seems like u do less... (definately less microing units in and out of battle) no surrounds... very seldom do u get a chance to "trip" units running away... yeah.. just a diff game with diff micro.. war3 also had smart-cast so nothing new there...

LightYears
Profile Joined May 2010
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 19:57:44
May 11 2010 19:54 GMT
#138
I've played WC3 mostlyI could get round 200+ in broodwar as well last year when I tried it again, . Yet, in SC2 it is so hard to get high apm and it decreases so much the times you dont use much actions. Why does it decrease so much Ah well some good players still keep around 200.

Those whose who get 200+ in BW/WC3 are not making less. Actually you make more but the APM system of SC2 is weird. Go back to WC3 or BW you are likely to have more APM after playing SC2
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
May 11 2010 20:16 GMT
#139
That JPEG is incorrect. Test this yourself but multiplying time shown for a game on a score screen by 1.33333 (etc). It will equal (rather, approximate quite closely) the time displayed for the replay. The modifier is 1.3333333.
kevin349
Profile Joined May 2009
United States68 Posts
May 11 2010 20:20 GMT
#140
I sat in game, with a stop watch, and timed 5 minutes on the replay with time on the stop watch then averaged that and came up with 42.5seconds/game min
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