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nisukeapple
314 Posts
then it got a lot more comfortable and went around 180 at 30+minute games, but faster at shorter games due to spam and pace same sort of number between bw and sc2, except BW was closer to 320 to 360apm range for me for all game lengths because of this drive to do as much as possible. now in sc2 and in a recent game (40minutes) doing 188apm feels like a maximum i can't pass it stays high in longer game lenths because it seems that every action counted is necessary to progress the game | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
I macro with 1 SD instead of 1sd2sd3sd4sd5sd, so ez. | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On May 14 2010 05:17 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Uh, you call that a line? In my field of biology, we call that data "garbage." APM is calculated completely differently from SC1 to 2, and will vary from person to person. Certain events that 1 person will do a lot will be or not be counted, resulting in wide variation. u can take the garbage and redo the process with new data taken from the forum if u want, but i think that doesnt deserve time. Seems that the vast majority of users DOWN their APM from SC1 to SC2,. Why? some people say that u need less apm, others (like me) think that bwchart calculate in a different way the apm AND the speed changed from sc1. my theory its just an aproximation to the problem, its not an answer nor a serious study. ps: I studied biology too, i have studies in maths, ecology and economy, ur being so arrogant!! | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On May 14 2010 05:58 No_eL wrote: u can take the garbage and redo the process with new data taken from the forum if u want, but i think that doesnt deserve time. Seems that the vast majority of users DOWN their APM from SC1 to SC2,. Why? some people say that u need less apm, others (like me) think that bwchart calculate in a different way the apm AND the speed changed from sc1. my theory its just an aproximation to the problem, its not an answer nor a serious study. ps: I studied biology too, i have studies in maths, ecology and economy, ur being so arrogant!! It depends on what you want to find out. If you want to do a census on if SC2 is a less APM intense game than BW then that's fine. But if you want to find what your displayed APM actually translates to with the same actions in BW then you're doing it wrong, and the answer has already been given. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
SC: ~150 SC2: ~100 I was shocked when I first saw my APM in starcraft 2 as I expected it to be around 150. When I thought more about it, it seemed reasonable that it should be lower. All those clicks of selecting workers and sending them to the minerals etc. I'm not slower than I was before, it's just that I haven't managed to find things to do in sc2 that would require more clicks thought I am sure there are lots! | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
I guess with the new multiplier that means I'm actually getting faster. The OP is garbage though, that data says nothing. | ||
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kevin349
United States68 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img517.imageshack.us/i/apm.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us Ok... I input all the data in this thread to a spreadsheet and added the trendline. the r^2 is somewhat low, but it doesn't really matter for this data. The key thing to note is my trendline slope is 1.36 which is very close to my calculated value of 1.4. I think this is more evidence that apm is calculated by sc2 replays the same way as bw chart calculated apm. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
SC2: 80-150 (average ~100) | ||
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AlliNPreFlop
59 Posts
StarCraft 2: 130-160 Apm | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On May 15 2010 00:20 kevin349 wrote: Uploaded with ImageShack.us Ok... I input all the data in this thread to a spreadsheet and added the trendline. the r^2 is somewhat low, but it doesn't really matter for this data. The key thing to note is my trendline slope is 1.36 which is very close to my calculated value of 1.4. I think this is more evidence that apm is calculated by sc2 replays the same way as bw chart calculated apm. interesting, nice work, but the associated error its still so high and the data source its not very accurate, buy yes, you have a point. Maybe many problems around sc2 could be a direct result in the change of speed (low life of buildings and units, less micro options, fast battles, inhabilites for reaction, etc.) | ||
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DikFore
United States33 Posts
the r^2 is somewhat low, but it doesn't really matter for this data. I don't understand why it doesn't. Isn't the r squared value the crux of the whole study? If the fit is only 20%, then aren't you saying that this trendline is more incorrect than correct? I hate statistics...  | ||
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kevin349
United States68 Posts
If i throw out the outliers i get about a .5 r^2 which is a bit better.. and the slope gets even closer to 1.4... On May 15 2010 00:57 DikFore wrote: I don't understand why it doesn't. Isn't the r squared value the crux of the whole study? If the fit is only 20%, then aren't you saying that this trendline is more incorrect than correct? I hate statistics... Yes and no... I say its not because were not really trying to predict anything. Like i said above, throwing out outliers, which is usually done, brings it up quite a bit.... But yeah.. I been up all night and haven't slept... :p | ||
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
Sc2 110~ | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
SC2 : 100 ^_^ | ||
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kevin349
United States68 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
SC2: 40-60 dota: 70-90 i feel like i wasted apm in sc1 though it's kinda low. my rank is ~1200 gold league | ||
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TheMick
Great Britain164 Posts
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