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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On July 30 2009 23:27 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Breaking News  Jaedong has more KeSPA rated wins than  BoxeR and now has the second most overallJaedong now also has #1 ELO, in addition to his #1 PR and #1 KeSPA rankingTechnically he has GOM wins, so no he doesn't | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On July 30 2009 23:36 Avidkeystamper wrote: Technically he has GOM wins, so no he doesn't well TL dosnt give a crap about kespa  | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On July 30 2009 23:06 Shikyo wrote: Didn't read more than 15% of the post because the terrible grammar and nonsense hurt my eyes, but try: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed-elo?race=Z#tblt-1018-1-6-DESC Oh yeah, also. I think he's second-best because he doesn't suck at any MU. I don't care if yarnc has the best zvt in the world when his zvz is above average and his zvp is horrible. I don't care if July is the best zvp in the world if his zvt and zvz can't win against even the worst of a-class players. -_- Savior can reach the top zvz really soon? He has NEVER been good at zvz, have you SEEN his recent zvzs? His muta-v-scourge micro is b-teamer level. you are going more and more pathetic . yellow arnc has a zvz at least same as effort , maybe better . i really dont see why u see effort so good at zvz . i repeat it again , its not because he win more zvz than any player that we could say him to be better zvz . i dont watch the results only to see who has the best zvz . ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RESULTS . my god where are you from ? effort has NOT the best zvt NOT the best zvp and NOT the 2nd best zvz . how the fuck can you think so well of him ? he is just very good player with others . he is not alone to want the rival jaedong sit , he is i think more consistant than yellow arnc or zero , i give you that . and one more thing , zvz is improving lately , so level is higher and being top 1 in zvz is getting harder and harder . one day we see effort losing 3 0 to calm , and the next day we can see effort winning jaedong 2 0 . ( in GOMTV , the less important league in korea , where SKT didnt played , where there was many jokes results ) . i repeat you effort is NOT the 2nd zerg in korea . calm can be . zero can be . yellow arnc can be now . savior had a poor zvz in his early days , but at the end of his career , he was very good at it . his most recent zvz are not effort or calm level , but they are showing he is coming back without doubt . how can you be so sure effort is the 2nd Z in korea after seeing him lose 0 3 to calm and 0 3 to iris . yellow arnc did 1 1 in playoffs vs him (awesome zvzs i can say ) . effort is OUT of OSL ( losing to flash and jaedong ) . OUT of MSL ( losing to calm ) and OUT of gomTV ( losing to iris ). HOW CAN U BE SO PROUD OF HIM . i prefere a lot more calm , zero and yellow arnc than effort , but i would never say they are the " no doubt" 2nd Z in korea . but you would about effort . you are just pathetic . | ||
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alt.tday
United States180 Posts
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nK)Duke
Germany936 Posts
On July 30 2009 23:27 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Breaking News Jaedong has more KeSPA rated wins than BoxeR and now has the second most overallJaedong now also has #1 ELO, in addition to his #1 PR and #1 KeSPA rankingJuly, Xellos, Nada? | ||
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dcberkeley
Canada844 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:06 vaMpYr wrote: ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RESULTS . Dude, it's his opinion chill out. Applying the same logic, seeing him lose 0-3 doesn't mean anything because those are just results like you said. A counter argument (that I think is true) would be that Coach Cho told Effort how important PL is and he's doing everything he can to carry his team to win PL while sacrificing his individuals. It might not be true, but god man, chill out. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
jaedong is higher than xellos and july. though nada does have a crap load more.. so wonder what he meant then? | ||
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Metallingus
Philippines468 Posts
Kinda contradictory how it's pointed out that "ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RESULTS" and then followed up by the fact that EffOrt is out of all the individual leagues. Regardless, he's hell of a lot more solid than most Zs out there and a case sure as hell can be made for him being the next best Z after Jaedong. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
On July 23 2009 13:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Calm will destroy Effort, and I will drink the CJ fanboys' tears with glee. ![[image loading]](http://i26.tinypic.com/30loua0.jpg) Pity my overall LB sucks this season  | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On July 31 2009 00:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: O hai. Pity my overall LB sucks this season thats my LB cept iris is gonna beat bisu | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
On July 31 2009 00:04 Avidkeystamper wrote: I see you LB'ed ZerO. Down with CJ. And how can I NOT LB for Zero after all that sexy shit he did on Holy World/Hea | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On July 30 2009 23:52 dcberkeley wrote: Dude, it's his opinion chill out. Applying the same logic, seeing him lose 0-3 doesn't mean anything because those are just results like you said. A counter argument (that I think is true) would be that Coach Cho told Effort how important PL is and he's doing everything he can to carry his team to win PL while sacrificing his individuals. It might not be true, but god man, chill out. yes its exactly what i said , calm winning 3 0 effort doesnt mean calm > effort . im not subjective about the results or the games like too many people outside korea . ( korean are not ) boxer is the most respected and favourite progamer of all time , he has never been the best . never . about your coach thing , i am really agree with you , proleague is now really more important than the individuals . it was not 2 years ago . now many progamers saying they fight only for their teams . so yes effort is really in the top Zerg with the proleague , but he is not the only one . calm has better stats in proleague than effort . one thing makes me believe effort is a potential 2nd Z , without that , i would think calm and yellow arnc are better ( zero sucks in proleague , so i dont wanna talk about him ) . in the super ACE between yellow arnc and effort , the pressure was at maximum , it was ONE game for advances in the most important league of all time , the 08 09 proleague . and more than that , it was a zvz , the most pressured match up . yellow arnc felt down under pressure when he had a clear advantage , effort did not felt down , he did well , he played well , as well as yellow arnc , but he played with more confidence and relax . that is the thing of a great champion . this is the only thing why i respect effort now as a very good player . but i really dont like so much his playstyle . he remind me luxury , who i used to hate so much ( hes dead now :p ) | ||
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animus123
United States171 Posts
On July 30 2009 22:59 Nylan wrote: Is it too soon to call Effort Neo-Leta? or how about neo-sea | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
On July 31 2009 00:12 vaMpYr wrote: boxer is the most respected and favourite progamer of all time , he has never been the best . never . Uhm, what? Boxer spent considerable amounts of time being a "bonjwa," or at least winning SLs and sitting at #1 Kespa. | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:06 vaMpYr wrote: boxer is the most respected and favourite progamer of all time , he has never been the best . never . Wasnt Boxer #1 Kespa for 17 months? | ||
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
Now I'm happy because I'll be ecstatic whether Jaedong or Calm wins, and I'll cheer for the winner in the finals ^^ | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 31 2009 00:12 vaMpYr wrote: boxer is the most respected and favourite progamer of all time , he has never been the best . never . ... | ||
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