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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On July 30 2009 20:50 Fredflintstone wrote: Yeah and if it had been reversed you'd say how brilliant Effort is :pCalm didn't read shit. He went 9 pool, got lucky in scouting(second game), and won with BO. | ||
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Napalm
Turkey54 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:06 EvoChamber wrote: I for one would enjoy a Jaedong/Iris final regardless of who won. Word. I still watch the JD vs Iris python game pretty often~ | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:06 vaMpYr wrote: ok now who think here effort is the "no doubt" 2nd Zerg ? i think now people will think harder now before autoproclame their idol "no doubt 2nd zerg" . my favourites zerg after jaedong are calm and yellow arnc , but im still thinking calm is NOT better than effort . effort calm or yellow arnc have a LOT to prove before being proclame best Z with jaedong . starcraft is not about a few games . remember that . Well the thing with Yarnc is that his ZvT is amazing but other MUs... not so. Especially his ZvP is extremely lackluster. Calm is also kind of a ZvT player. I believe that Effort is the second-most well-rounded in every MU. Zero is up there as well, but he's way too inconsistant. Jaedong is still clearly the best, most consistant Zerg, with no weak MUs and only tiny "slumps" that never last for longer than a week or two. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10595 Posts
Going twice 12 Hatch when being down 1/2 games... Now that’s really stubborn/stupid. Now just July needs to play some 9 pool in Gom and everything will be allright :p. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 30 2009 20:50 Fredflintstone wrote: Calm didn't read shit. He went 9 pool, got lucky in scouting(second game), and won with BO. Ah and you think that he threw dice to decide which BO he was gonna go for? There's a lot of mindgames involved in a BO5, effort didn't think he would go for a 9 pool twice in a row, and didn't want to go 12pool only to have calm go for 12 hatch, calm anticipated that and went for 9 pool again. Plus it's not like effort 12 hatch vs 9pool is 100% autoloss, watch great vs effort a few days ago, jaedong for example says he never loses to 9 pool in practice | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Assuming Bisu DOESNT get cocky and plays lights out starcraft | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
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fijosh
Czech Republic68 Posts
ZerO, that was just pure rape  | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + (Z)Jaedong < Carthage 3 > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Byzantium 3 > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Outsider > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < 1 - 3 > (T)Canata Group B: (Z)EffOrt < Carthage 3 > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Byzantium 3 > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Outsider > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < 3 - 1 > (Z)Calm 8/0 that's unbelievable | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:17 Shikyo wrote: Well the thing with Yarnc is that his ZvT is amazing but other MUs... not so. Especially his ZvP is extremely lackluster. Calm is also kind of a ZvT player. I believe that Effort is the second-most well-rounded in every MU. Zero is up there as well, but he's way too inconsistant. Jaedong is still clearly the best, most consistant Zerg, with no weak MUs and only tiny "slumps" that never last for longer than a week or two. yellow arnc is VERY good at zvz . he won effort at PL playoffs and should have won again in super ACE . he just felt down under pressure , effort didnt . yellow arnc has now some of best zvz . there is a lot potential of best zvz with jaedong . i can give you yellow arnc , effort , calm , zero and hyvaa . and i think i can talk obout oversky in top zvz . and savior is getting very good in zvz lately . i think he can back . only jaedong is a step higher than the others .and about effort 2nd zerg , yellow arnc is cleary better than him in zvt , we can't say effort is better in zvz than the others , and i think Zero has better zvp now than effort . so what does effort have ? only consitant maybe . | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:18 7mk wrote: Ah and you think that he threw dice to decide which BO he was gonna go for? There's a lot of mindgames involved in a BO5, effort didn't think he would go for a 9 pool twice in a row, and didn't want to go 12pool only to have calm go for 12 hatch, calm anticipated that and went for 9 pool again. Plus it's not like effort 12 hatch vs 9pool is 100% autoloss, watch great vs effort a few days ago, jaedong for example says he never loses to 9 pool in practice Well, it really doesn't say anything if Jaedong can beat ggaemo 12h vs 9pool. And what do you think would have happened if Great had targeted the drones instead of the hatchery? Or even ran into the main instead of pecking away at the nat hatch? On July 30 2009 21:28 Geo.Rion wrote: Is this the worst prediction ever? + Show Spoiler + (Z)Jaedong < Carthage 3 > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Byzantium 3 > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < Outsider > (T)Canata (Z)Jaedong < 1 - 3 > (T)Canata Group B: (Z)EffOrt < Carthage 3 > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Byzantium 3 > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < Outsider > (Z)Calm (Z)EffOrt < 3 - 1 > (Z)Calm 8/0 that's unbelievable Don't underestimate konadora, he's managed to predict the complete opposite of every single set in multiple proleague matches. | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 30 2009 21:38 vaMpYr wrote: yellow arnc is VERY good at zvz . he won effort at PL playoffs and should have won again in super ACE . he just felt down under pressure , effort didnt . yellow arnc has now some of best zvz . there is a lot potential of best zvz with jaedong . i can give you yellow arnc , effort , calm , zero and hyvaa . and i think i can talk obout oversky in top zvz . and savior is getting very good in zvz lately . i think he can back . only jaedong is a step higher than the others .and about effort 2nd zerg , yellow arnc is cleary better than him in zvt , we can't say effort is better in zvz than the others , and i think Zero has better zvp now than effort . so what does effort have ? only consitant maybe . All these top zvz players you talk about are inconsistant and about 50% lifetime. No thank you. Yarnc's problem isn't zvz, it's his zvp. Savior getting very good at zvz? Okay, you just lost all of your credibility. | ||
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
ZvZ again ..... ㅠ.ㅠ | ||
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