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On March 25 2012 03:56 L3gendary wrote:
^yes. And me vs newburg and arya vs psyonicreaver are postponed
not sure about the last game.
edit:nvm looks like tht is pp as well
btw i havent heard back from newburg yet. Are you guys in touch with him? I need to know when this will be pp'ed to.
He´s at work atm so i cant reach him, but he is alive and well. I just sent him an email so hell be in touch with you later today so you can get a date set
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On March 25 2012 02:25 Sentenal wrote:Update: Show nested quote +Original Message From Eywa-: If you can play now, I can fit it in, I'd be pushing back other commitments, but that's fine ._. DRTL is also a commitment of mine. Original Message From Sentenal: Monday-Thrusday is always bad for me due to work/school. So you cant make it any time this weekend? Do you have anyone on your team who can step in as a replacement? Original Message From Eywa-: Hey, I can't make it tonight, sorry, something came up... I'm fucked for the weekend... dunno if you're up for a reschedule to Monday... Original Message From Sentenal: friday night, 10pm Eastern. that fine? Original Message From Eywa-: Friday night is fine, specify time and we're good to go. Original Message From Sentenal:
Hey, what time is best for you to reschedule our match, since you said you won't be available at the normal time?
Is Friday night (Eastern) good for you, or would you rather it be sometime Saturday? Not sure what your time zone is, but just let me know when is good for you. Eywa was able to make time to play our game today. GG Eywa, although I don't think your floating away buildings strategies is very viable.
Lolol, he did it after he lost right?
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On March 25 2012 02:25 Sentenal wrote:Update: Show nested quote +Original Message From Eywa-: If you can play now, I can fit it in, I'd be pushing back other commitments, but that's fine ._. DRTL is also a commitment of mine. Original Message From Sentenal: Monday-Thrusday is always bad for me due to work/school. So you cant make it any time this weekend? Do you have anyone on your team who can step in as a replacement? Original Message From Eywa-: Hey, I can't make it tonight, sorry, something came up... I'm fucked for the weekend... dunno if you're up for a reschedule to Monday... Original Message From Sentenal: friday night, 10pm Eastern. that fine? Original Message From Eywa-: Friday night is fine, specify time and we're good to go. Original Message From Sentenal:
Hey, what time is best for you to reschedule our match, since you said you won't be available at the normal time?
Is Friday night (Eastern) good for you, or would you rather it be sometime Saturday? Not sure what your time zone is, but just let me know when is good for you. Eywa was able to make time to play our game today. GG Eywa, although I don't think your floating away buildings strategies is very viable.
I wasn't going to say anything, but since you're talking shit.
True, floating buildings isn't as good of a strat as entering a bunch of players who should be in CRTL on your team, can I enter my CRTL team too? You know its pretty bad when the league acknowledges that you guys are way over D+ and still does nothing.
When approached about it by myself Nikon replied saying "But you're over D+ as well"
Nikon's response pretty much makes my point because I replied "yeah, and I'm getting stomped" - This week more so than against Babo (was actually close). I mean, really?
Also, I know I'll receive critisism for admitting to be over D rank, yet still playing in this league.. Here is my justification, I'm borderline C- in terms of skill, that was shown last season where I had very few losses that were due to myself being outmatched (1). So, noticing this, I did throw out in the CRTL thread that I was willing to play if they'd have me, but I wasn't entered in the draft so I just play here knowing that I'm fine for either realistically (pretty well even skilled with Babo I'd say).
What I'm saying is when your players start beating players who are in CRTL, there's a definite issue with your skill for this league. I'm not saying Sentenal is the only one who shouldn't be here due to skill, but there's other from his team such as shuruken who beat someone from my CRTL team just recently and in last year's playoffs beat a borderline player in a ZvZ with a build order disadvantage (Skeggaba).
I really don't care about borderline players because they're not really wanted in either league, so its a rough spot. However, when your last full season of laddering was 25-13 C-, I don't see how you should even be considered in DRTL, yeah it was a long time ago, but you haven't proven that you've lost ANY of that C rank skill... So what, if some gosu doesn't ladder for a few seasons I can swoop him up and be like "well, no ladder stats to prove otherwise?".... I seriously hope something is done about it, there's a reason for the different low rank tours.
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You have no clue what you are talking about.
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I've never gotten close to C- before. Closest I got was 2.6k points last season, but thats about it.
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I wasn't going to say anything, but since you're talking shit.
Yeah, you weren't going to say anything after BMing me in game and after, right.
25-13 C-... in Season 9. Thats just touching C- too. Do you know how long ago that was? Its what, season 22 now? Its been like 2 or 3 years since I played BW seriously. How exactly do I prove that I lost skill lol?
Rather than complain about how I'm some closet time traveling gosu from the past, maybe learning basic TvP would serve you better?
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On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Agreed.
Your skills are nowhere near C. I stomped you out and I went 89-166 when I tried my hardest. You can claim to be equal to me, and that might be true since 2 games don't mean shit - more on that later. However, how does this follow suit with your logic? You're greatly overestimating your own skills. You're simply whining about a loss, do it a little more gracefully please (you've already cried wolf this way multiple times).
For further argument's sake, I was 35-16 C 1 year ago. The fact that I went 89-166 is enough evidence that skill DOES deteriorate. No offense to anyone here, but do you think I honestly want to be in DRTL going 2-2 and not being able to get a winrate over 50% on ladder when I had hit C before? Stop being so self-centered and try to think outside your little box for a minute.
On the subject of people in DRTL beating CRTL people, 1 game here 1 game there between different people doesn't mean anything. I take games off of Probe[wok] sometimes when he goes rax FE and I go proxy 3 gate bust, or proxy robo, or some other gimmick play. But I would probably lose to your average D rank hydra bust. People have different strengths and weaknesses, the fact is that what they average out to is your rank - even if I can 3 gate goon my way to C- by busting every terran and not playing any vZ or vP, that does not make me a C rank player.
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On March 25 2012 07:53 Sentenal wrote:Yeah, you weren't going to say anything after BMing me in game and after, right. 25-13 C-... in Season 9. Thats just touching C- too. Do you know how long ago that was? Its what, season 22 now? Its been like 2 or 3 years since I played BW seriously. How exactly do I prove that I lost skill lol? Rather than complain about how I'm some closet time traveling gosu from the past, maybe learning basic TvP would serve you better?
Sentenal, you can't; Even if you play 250 games and end up with 35% winrate 2300, Eywa- will say you're too good for this league man. Such are the high standards of the man!
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On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.html
As far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon.
First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?)
Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something.
I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument.
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On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument.
19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha.
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On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha.
So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line?
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On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line?
If they don't hit C-, then they don't hit C-. Do you not know how ranks and points work?
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On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line?
Usually at around 3000 points, could be wrong though.
Fact of the matter is that whoever is 19-0 is smurfing or has previous seasons with >D+ rank, plain and simple. If neither of those conditions are true, then there is no way of knowing - I can hit a streak of playing a bunch of total scrubs, as can you (as evidenced by your ladder claims - if we are of similar skill, why was my ladder rating so fucked compared to yours?). The best part of this argument is that it is completely irrelevant to the fact that he is eligible to play and you're just whining about losses, pointing fingers, and being more of a nuisance to this league due to your manner and sensationalism than those players have ever been imo.
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On March 25 2012 08:23 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line? Usually at around 3000 points, could be wrong though. Fact of the matter is that whoever is 19-0 is smurfing or has previous seasons with >D+ rank, plain and simple. If neither of those conditions are true, then there is no way of knowing - I can hit a streak of playing a bunch of total scrubs, as can you (as evidenced by your ladder claims - if we are of similar skill, why was my ladder rating so fucked compared to yours?). The best part of this argument is that it is completely irrelevant to the fact that he is eligible to play and you're just whining about losses, pointing fingers, and being more of a nuisance to this league due to your manner and sensationalism than those players have ever been imo.
I don't understand, when did I lose to Shuruken in all this. I'll give you a perfect example of someone who never ladders on iCCup.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/LRM)Kolll.html
Based on the above logic, with no prior knowledge of this player, he'd be allowed in. I raised a valid argument and all you talk about is ego, I don't quite understand how your arguments are valid in the slightest.
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On March 25 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:23 Jealous wrote:On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line? Usually at around 3000 points, could be wrong though. Fact of the matter is that whoever is 19-0 is smurfing or has previous seasons with >D+ rank, plain and simple. If neither of those conditions are true, then there is no way of knowing - I can hit a streak of playing a bunch of total scrubs, as can you (as evidenced by your ladder claims - if we are of similar skill, why was my ladder rating so fucked compared to yours?). The best part of this argument is that it is completely irrelevant to the fact that he is eligible to play and you're just whining about losses, pointing fingers, and being more of a nuisance to this league due to your manner and sensationalism than those players have ever been imo. I don't understand, when did I lose to Shuruken in all this. I'll give you a perfect example of someone who never ladders on iCCup. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/LRM)Kolll.htmlBased on the above logic, with no prior knowledge of this player, he'd be allowed in.
Player = your action
Shuruken = pointing fingers
Sentenal = whining about losses, pointing fingers
Me = whining about losses, pointing fingers
Yes, he would. Unfortunately for him, there is plenty of prior knowledge on him. It's pretty clear to me that shuruken was not smurfing during this time. Admittedly, sentenal and I could have been, but I guess you can go get some ICCup admin to cross-reference IPs to know for sure. Then again, people could have been playing at a different location just to smurf really hard for a potential future prizeless D rank teamleague so they could be allowed in. I'll leave the sleuthing up to you.
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Alright guys I'm signing up for D league since I have at least 5 accounts with D/D+ stats...kk sound good?
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On March 25 2012 08:29 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:23 Jealous wrote:On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line? Usually at around 3000 points, could be wrong though. Fact of the matter is that whoever is 19-0 is smurfing or has previous seasons with >D+ rank, plain and simple. If neither of those conditions are true, then there is no way of knowing - I can hit a streak of playing a bunch of total scrubs, as can you (as evidenced by your ladder claims - if we are of similar skill, why was my ladder rating so fucked compared to yours?). The best part of this argument is that it is completely irrelevant to the fact that he is eligible to play and you're just whining about losses, pointing fingers, and being more of a nuisance to this league due to your manner and sensationalism than those players have ever been imo. I don't understand, when did I lose to Shuruken in all this. I'll give you a perfect example of someone who never ladders on iCCup. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/LRM)Kolll.htmlBased on the above logic, with no prior knowledge of this player, he'd be allowed in. Player = your action Shuruken = pointing fingers Sentenal = whining about losses, pointing fingers Me = whining about losses, pointing fingers Yes, he would. Unfortunately for him, there is plenty of prior knowledge on him. It's pretty clear to me that shuruken was not smurfing during this time. Admittedly, sentenal and I could have been, but I guess you can go get some ICCup admin to cross-reference IPs to know for sure. Then again, people could have been playing at a different location just to smurf really hard for a potential future prizeless D rank teamleague so they could be allowed in. I'll leave the sleuthing up to you.
Where did you read anything directed at you in my post? That much I don't understand. Also. how do you indentify someone who is too good for this league without pointing them out? The basis of your argument is flawed because you're trying to make an argument without contradicting anything I said about shuruken and you'd rather say that I'm not in a good place for making this argument because its a conflict of interest.
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Eywaaaaaa am I gonna have to quote your own sig to you? :p Don't create drama on the message board. I write this with love.
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On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument.
Practice? I help coach/teach Courage and I know just how well they are doing in "practice." Gao barely if ever wins in zvp and his zvt winrate is not much better. You can also even see proof of this on his stream. The sheer sight of a D+ Protoss fucking terrifies Gao. He also has only beaten Koro like once out of 345838458345 times and Koro is a C- zerg. If Gao was actually C- or better then the winrate would be close to even.
Sent hit C- a few years ago by only playing bad zergs on python who couldn't defend 9/10 gate on Python. He also played Neo Requiem when it was motw and dodged pvp while playing pvt (LOL) and 2gating zergs who actually thought 12hat was viable there. However, he stopped laddering once he hit C- and never actually tried to keep it vs other C-.
Records like "19-6" are also incredibly misleading nowadays when there are a huge amount of players from sc2 on iccup. Playing low D/D- people all day doesn't make anyone C- either.
Also, since when does 3raxing tvp and pulling scvs equal borderline C- in skill?
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On March 25 2012 08:32 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:29 Jealous wrote:On March 25 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:23 Jealous wrote:On March 25 2012 08:19 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 08:18 Sentenal wrote:On March 25 2012 08:15 Eywa- wrote:On March 25 2012 07:49 Harem wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Shuruken.htmlAs far as Sentinel goes, all I can do is guess, but to say I have no idea what I'm talking about as it relates to DRTL, false. This guy, Gao Xi, no one can argue as to why he is too strong for D Ranks Team league better than me, his team and Nikon. First off, 19-6 D+ (in what way is that legitemately D+?) Second, he raped everyone in Team 7 during practice REPEATEDLY including the MVP of DRTL season 1, that being Nikon. I don't know, if you are between 3-0 and 5-0 against the best player of the previous season, might mean something. I don't think anything else needs to be said, as for your comment Jealous, I don't care to comment on my own skill, I did it because I believed there was some validity to doing it there and I was basing my entire argument off of Nikon's perception of my skill, the person who's trained the most with me during DRTL. That being said, your reply makes little sense of my argument. 19-6 D+ is D+ because that it isn't enough points to be C-. Thats how ranks work. Gaoxi never touched C-, and you are citing him beating people in practice as a reason hes too good to be in this league? hahaha. So you're saying 19-0 is also legit D+? and if not, where do you draw the line? Usually at around 3000 points, could be wrong though. Fact of the matter is that whoever is 19-0 is smurfing or has previous seasons with >D+ rank, plain and simple. If neither of those conditions are true, then there is no way of knowing - I can hit a streak of playing a bunch of total scrubs, as can you (as evidenced by your ladder claims - if we are of similar skill, why was my ladder rating so fucked compared to yours?). The best part of this argument is that it is completely irrelevant to the fact that he is eligible to play and you're just whining about losses, pointing fingers, and being more of a nuisance to this league due to your manner and sensationalism than those players have ever been imo. I don't understand, when did I lose to Shuruken in all this. I'll give you a perfect example of someone who never ladders on iCCup. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/LRM)Kolll.htmlBased on the above logic, with no prior knowledge of this player, he'd be allowed in. Player = your action Shuruken = pointing fingers Sentenal = whining about losses, pointing fingers Me = whining about losses, pointing fingers Yes, he would. Unfortunately for him, there is plenty of prior knowledge on him. It's pretty clear to me that shuruken was not smurfing during this time. Admittedly, sentenal and I could have been, but I guess you can go get some ICCup admin to cross-reference IPs to know for sure. Then again, people could have been playing at a different location just to smurf really hard for a potential future prizeless D rank teamleague so they could be allowed in. I'll leave the sleuthing up to you. Where did you read anything directed at you in my post? That much I don't understand. Also. how do you indentify someone who is too good for this league without pointing them out? The basis of your argument is flawed because you're trying to make an argument without contradicting anything I said about shuruken and you'd rather say that I'm not in a good place for making this argument because its a conflict of interest.
You only referenced your prior issues with me but it was worth bringing up as you seem to have switched to using me and yourself as some sort of standard to erroneously measure other players by. How I identify players too good for this league is none of my concern because I am not going to bother witch hunting 1-4 players out of 80.
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