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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 22 2003 11:24 GMT
#21
9 pool holds up very nicely against anything, assuming the 9 pooler has superior skill.
JAM THE FUCKER!
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
December 22 2003 14:32 GMT
#22
well twisted i believe u, i was just wondering if you compared your builds to other possibilities so you know for a fact they give you want you want most efficiently or not?
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 22 2003 14:51 GMT
#23
Hmm yea, it's safe, and it's pretty strong.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 22 2003 20:33 GMT
#24
On December 22 2003 17:20 Commander[SB] wrote:
Klogon your going to the LAN in Portland right? Your friend Cory (I knew him as TheLast[Day] online) told me about it. Don't you go to beaverton high school?


shhhh, I don't wanna have competition now do I?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-23 00:56:25
December 22 2003 22:45 GMT
#25
Hmm, thanks for the help. Its a bit of food for thought, but now I'm wondering when it'd be better to 12 pool... maybe when locations are farther away?

Also been having problems with a turtling tech terran that didn't get hurt by my 9pool and gets tanks on my cliff with wraiths. Best counter is...? Because mutas come to slow to stop the wraiths from killing many overlords and lurkers without ol drop can't stop the tanks.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 23 2003 01:31 GMT
#26
If locations are far away, just do the standard 12 hatch 11 pool build. If he bunkerrushes anyway, just use 7 drones and save larva for lings, and rally them to your 2nd hatch. You should be fine, just keep on killing scv that builds bunker, and stop rines from entering. Then it's pretty much win, because he's far behind.

Turtling terran that goes tech, if you 9 pool first, get lair + spire really fast, and get gas as soon as you see he's teching (if you do 3 hatch build, your expand hatch is probably fucked if your natural has a cliff, so get lair first, and pump drones. First you'll have a lot of money, and you wonder if you shouldn't build 3rd hatch, but that will severely hurt your eco as you won't have money to build drones). Don't bother making any sunken+ling, unless you fear vulture. Just get 1 sunk then and block entrance with 6 ling or so. It's also nice to sacrifice a lord to see what tech he's building. If he's smart, he'll build his tech somewhere in his main where an overlord can't see it fast, so just try an awkward route with your lord where you expect his tech to be. Also, if he has 1 fact without addon, you know he's doing either fast m&m drop, or dual port wraith. Just get 2 hydra then or so, and keep pumping drones, and get spire asap. If he goes cloak, get lord speed. Spore at minerals isn't bad either. You can then either get muta, but you won't have much eco. My advice is to just get 7 muta (7 muta kill 1 scv in 1 hit), then work on eco. He will probably get 3 rax m&m after he did wraith, so have a good scout outside his base to see when he's coming out. You need either a lot of sunken or lurker when he comes out with a 3 rax army. If he does that wraith/cliff stuff, just use muta to kill it. You should be fast enough if he went wraith first and tank after with your muta.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
December 23 2003 05:45 GMT
#27
I believe Testie wrote a guide to 9 pooling on the old aeOn) site. Not sure if it's still up or not, but I couldn't stop 9 pooling after reading that :D

iirc he went 100-1 or so against x17ers, under a smurf name, opening EVERY GAME with a 9 pool.

So yeah I think it CAN BE a solid opening (no matter the skill level of your opponent in comparison to you) just so long as you know what you're doing. O_O;;
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
December 23 2003 08:24 GMT
#28
he lost a game to an x17er?what a loser! oov
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
December 23 2003 12:01 GMT
#29
fu! you'd probably lose your first or second game~

:D
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
December 23 2003 12:31 GMT
#30
indeed i might devaz,indeed i might.

btw i ran out of money so i'm gonna have to get a job before i can send you some money -.-
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 23 2003 13:28 GMT
#31
Thanks for the helps
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 23 2003 18:00 GMT
#32
guys i havent been playing z for long, but from 12 or 3 position, zvp, whats your guys take on sending ol other way then drone scouting, while going 9pool to 1hat lurker.

ive found it to really be one of the stronger strats ive used
CaRBoHoLiC
Profile Joined October 2003
United States46 Posts
December 23 2003 19:04 GMT
#33
ZvT I don't think I'd go 9pool unless I thought he was SCV rushing or something; you can early hatch + sunk@new hatch before he has a chance to even bunker you, if you have micro
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 23 2003 19:42 GMT
#34
Not if he proxies or something.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
December 23 2003 23:54 GMT
#35
Klogon I live in portland and would like to attent the tournament if possible! Could you maybe email me the info or just the site with the info?

Rahvin99 at wotmania.com

Thanks.
4 cheers for Ryan307
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-25 13:12:56
December 24 2003 19:08 GMT
#36
sent you an e-mail.

EDIT: No reply yet.. you get it? It was rather long... rather not retype it :/
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 25 2003 05:32 GMT
#37
On December 24 2003 03:00 travis wrote:
guys i havent been playing z for long, but from 12 or 3 position, zvp, whats your guys take on sending ol other way then drone scouting, while going 9pool to 1hat lurker.

ive found it to really be one of the stronger strats ive used


Could work, but it's a do or die strat =]
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
nolowerd cnase noame
Profile Joined December 2003
United States161 Posts
December 25 2003 20:46 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
the prejduduice is haslf full
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 25 2003 22:55 GMT
#39
Well I don't want to repeat a lot of what's been said here, but I'm starting to like 9pool as much as any other build. It feels like you have more control of the game. Usually after the rush if you just play normal, it isn't too different.

I really suck at explaining things, but I think you have to try it some to get a feel for it.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 25 2003 22:57 GMT
#40
oh, try not to waste your inital 6 lings unless you will do major damage.
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