EPTneed klazart to do a commentary on that game btw
[D/G]Bisu/oov's new PvT opening - Page 6
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
need klazart to do a commentary on that game btw | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On May 20 2011 03:26 APurpleCow wrote: Looks like a good build, but it seems to me like it's inferior to 12 nex against everything but proxy rax and BBS. Am I wrong here? Theres no real risk of getting bunker rushed. When you 12 nex, a terran who scouts you before your gateway finishes has the options to simply box 8 scv's and kill your nexus, and if they know what they're doing, you cant really stop it. Sure, you can sac the nexus and try and play it out, but if they've expanded while doing it, dont sac their scv's, you end up equal or behind. This build just puts you ahead, thats the advantage. Also getting range out super fast lets u hold rushes and defuse mines. range on a 12 nex is super late | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On May 21 2011 13:39 Taekwon wrote: this build could theoretically work in PvP... no. they make a zealot they send it to your base, you HAVE to make a goon/zealot to stop it. hence you deviate from the build, making the build useless. | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1078 Posts
On May 21 2011 13:39 Taekwon wrote: this build could theoretically work in PvP... I think if you want to FE in pvp, you can try this pvp build http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137582 | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8119 Posts
It's so boring that every time a SKT player does something unusual we have instant reaction zomgOovsogenius. It's already doubtful that players really invent the builds they do; and Oov doesn't even play Protoss. | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On May 21 2011 17:40 Biff The Understudy wrote: Why Oov? It's so boring that every time a SKT player does something unusual we have instant reaction zomgOovsogenius. It's already doubtful that players really invent the builds they do; and Oov doesn't even play Protoss. Someone doesn't read interviews. i even mentioned it in the OP Q: Any last words you want to say? A: I used a special build in today’s ace match, and it was a build created by Coach (T)iloveoov. It had been never used in a broadcasted match before. from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222026 | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
assuming he opens siege expand, it is possible to get the third nexus before the robotics. i was wondering if you add in 4-5 gates just as your nexus is 75% complete and your citadel after the gateways, if this could stomp a 6 factory push. since the natural econ is up quite early, constant goons can be made through the initial 2 gates during the duration of the 3rd nexus building time and halted at around 50% for gateways to be made along with the citadel. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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yB.TeH
Germany419 Posts
p has to cut probes to get his units out, t doesn't, also less agression than regular 1gate fe because goons arive later at your bunker and siege will finish soon p can't deny your scout so you won't need turrets, get your 3rd base early, don't attack with your units just defend | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
saying this build straight up is beaten by a 1 rax cc is just :S. by the same logic 1 rax cc also beats 1 gate 3 goon FE, which is what 90% of pro games are | ||
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yB.TeH
Germany419 Posts
i said you dont need to be agressive with your units, so you cant snipe a tank except when t tries to get to his 3rd 1gate fe denies t scout much earlier so you have to get turrets to be safe against dt and how will you scout a fast 3rd with 6minutes and something obs? | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
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yB.TeH
Germany419 Posts
but once you know how it works, it isn't that fearsome anymore i don't think this build is bad, because it forces the terran into a macro game even if he doesn't want it, but 1gate fe into arbiters does the same thing if not better once the novelity of the build has vanished | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
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Reyis
Pitcairn287 Posts
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naneri
Kyrgyzstan165 Posts
My FD got destroyed by this build today, though i have found my opponent on 15 limit. But it is just that i saw it for the first time. | ||
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Miwyfe
England101 Posts
I only recently watched a game between Best and Classic March 2011 on Circuit Breakers where Best uses this build. It is actually an earlier example of it strangely, despite the interview. So hope this is considered a worthwhile bump. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/60935_BeSt_vs_Classic/vod Also I must apologise for my earlier posts in this thread. | ||
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