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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 20 2013 02:21 GMT
#2501
How do you stop 9 pool on jade?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 20 2013 02:22 GMT
#2502
Well come to think of it that is more rage then question, I can look that up on my own.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
March 20 2013 02:40 GMT
#2503
On March 20 2013 11:22 puppykiller wrote:
Well come to think of it that is more rage then question, I can look that up on my own.

Is it the same way you stop 9pool on Blue Storm? xD
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 20 2013 06:11 GMT
#2504
Actually that question stands. I've watched some vods of TvZ's on neo jade. Few positions you can wall, but for the rest (especially top left) if Z opens 9 pool your dead.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 20 2013 07:25 GMT
#2505
just tested it, you can lingtight wallin your main or nat on every position, except bottomright sucks really bad because your marine spawns outside
topleft: wallin below the ramp. above the ramp or in your nat works but your marine spawns outside
bottomleft/topright: wallin your nat
bottomright: wallin above the ramp, sucks tho cus your marine spawns outside

or you can 2rax fe if you aren't going mech, or you can pull scvs when you scout the 9pool
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19397 Posts
March 20 2013 13:33 GMT
#2506
On March 20 2013 15:11 puppykiller wrote:
Actually that question stands. I've watched some vods of TvZ's on neo jade. Few positions you can wall, but for the rest (especially top left) if Z opens 9 pool your dead.

You mean you don't open triple supply depot?
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 16:22:04
March 20 2013 16:15 GMT
#2507
Can anyone give me some tips of how to play antimeta for ZvT ? =3

I wanna be 1 step above always xD
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
March 20 2013 16:19 GMT
#2508
1 hatch lurker :D or crazy zerg?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19397 Posts
March 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#2509
On March 21 2013 01:15 therockmanxx wrote:
Can anyone give me some tips of how to play antimeta for ZvT ? =3

I wanna be 1 step above always xD

Current ZvT is the two base zerg vs two base terran. Get mutas and harass and take a third while lurker tech is being researched. Morph a lurker on the ramp of your third to defend and tech to dark swarm. That's a brief description. So now you must think outside of the box. Terran during this will go for a strong bio strike force to apply pressure. If you wall the natural well then they will go after your third if it's being built.

1. Stay on two bases longer and go for drop tech (this is map dependant)
2. Double expand, the difficulty is bio opening is so strong that lots of static defenses will be needed but survival will boom your economy much faster.
3. Here's something that might work to. Go two bases but get quick macro hatch in your main as you tech to lair. Get speed on your lings because you won't need the gas as you will skip mutas. Tech to lurkers as you mass lings to defend with sunkens in your natural. Research burrow might be fun to use at this time to. Pump lots of hydras and apply pressure with a small hydra, heavy ling force along with a few lurkers and take a third behind this as soon as possible. After the third is taken go for hive tech play with dark swarm. Throughout the game continue to upgrade melee atks and armor for fast ultra tech. Take a fourth if you can before pumping hive units and get adrenal glands for lings. Also don't be afraid to build a spire for emergency scourge if the science vessel count gets high.
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LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 17:44:46
March 20 2013 17:40 GMT
#2510
On March 20 2013 11:21 puppykiller wrote:
How do you stop 9 pool on jade?

As terran, you could either opt for a bunker in your main (beside CC) or you can opt for the 4 scv on ramp + 1-2 marines on the ramp in hold position when the lings arrive.

Either way is fine, but I usually prefer to bunker beside CC if it's 9 speed (since they'll be concentrating on making many more lings), and usually just hold the ramp with scvs + rines if it's 9 pool without gas, zergs will usually make 6-8 lings and will proceed as normal.

The key is scouting though, make sure you're scouting at 11 and 13 so you will always locate the zerg main before they arrive at your base.
call me moxie
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 20 2013 19:20 GMT
#2511
On March 20 2013 16:25 Dead9 wrote:
just tested it, you can lingtight wallin your main or nat on every position, except bottomright sucks really bad because your marine spawns outside
topleft: wallin below the ramp. above the ramp or in your nat works but your marine spawns outside
bottomleft/topright: wallin your nat
bottomright: wallin above the ramp, sucks tho cus your marine spawns outside

or you can 2rax fe if you aren't going mech, or you can pull scvs when you scout the 9pool


Thanks Dead9 for great response. I think a lot of people posting answers in this thread lately do not know what they are talking about...
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
March 20 2013 20:04 GMT
#2512
How do you center the screen on the currently selected unit(s)/building?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 20 2013 20:07 GMT
#2513
On March 21 2013 05:04 traceurling wrote:
How do you center the screen on the currently selected unit(s)/building?

use alt key ie if you have an overlord somewhere else and hotkeyed to 2 then hit alt+2 and it goes to that overlord
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 20 2013 20:13 GMT
#2514
iirc it's ctrl+c
alternately double tap the hotkey or alt+hotkey
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#2515
I use alt-C.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 20 2013 21:21 GMT
#2516
On March 21 2013 01:15 therockmanxx wrote:
Can anyone give me some tips of how to play antimeta for ZvT ? =3

I wanna be 1 step above always xD


1. Join a game.
2. The person will see you have a [PE] tag and will assume you're going to do some all-in 2-hatch lurker/ling bust.
3. Play standard and blow their minds.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
March 20 2013 22:10 GMT
#2517
What do you guys use for muta micro in ZvZ? So far I've been (trying) to use Patrol to Chinese Triangle the scourge...and not sure about mutas...what should I do?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
March 20 2013 22:28 GMT
#2518
On March 21 2013 07:10 traceurling wrote:
What do you guys use for muta micro in ZvZ? So far I've been (trying) to use Patrol to Chinese Triangle the scourge...and not sure about mutas...what should I do?

Honestly it depends on your APM/multitask. If you can keep your macro going while you micro then there's a bunch of things you can do muta vs muta, but if you can't then you're better off just rightclicking a mutalisk at a time and focusing them down while you keep your macro going.

Also, Chinese Triangle and Patrol shot are different vs scourge. Chinese triangle you move in the triangle and then patrol shot if I recall correctly, but patrol shot you just patrol behind your muta, wait a tiny bit and then keep going your original direction. Which one you use depends on the distance of the scourge from your mutalisk.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 20 2013 22:32 GMT
#2519
the secret to zvz is that nobody can effectively micro mutas against scourge unless they're a korean progamer
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
March 21 2013 01:46 GMT
#2520
i use hold, patrol and right click depending on the situation. i never use chinese triangle.
to play antimeta zvt, go 3 hatch lurker into hydra/lurker.
and i always hit the hotkey twice to get to the unit/building i select.
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