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TonDan04
Profile Joined October 2025
14 Posts
December 20 2025 03:32 GMT
#9681
where's that replay site with the smurft accounts of progamers? I downloaded a bunch but I can't remember what site it was. It showed ladder scores I think?
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1044 Posts
December 27 2025 08:31 GMT
#9682
On December 20 2025 12:32 TonDan04 wrote:
where's that replay site with the smurft accounts of progamers? I downloaded a bunch but I can't remember what site it was. It showed ladder scores I think?

https://cwal.gg/
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
January 02 2026 07:34 GMT
#9683
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43550 Posts
January 02 2026 08:10 GMT
#9684
On January 02 2026 16:34 Comedy wrote:
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.

In addition to the magic box?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-02 09:12:05
January 02 2026 09:05 GMT
#9685
On January 02 2026 17:10 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2026 16:34 Comedy wrote:
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.

In addition to the magic box?


What do you mean by that? You mean that once they are balled up if you magic box them they will stay balled up or?

When I spend a lot of time stacking mutas by spamming right click, they are not 100% stacked. But progamers seem to be able to make them basically appear as 1 muta even though it's 11...was just wondering if there was some pattern or method to that.

edit : ah if you are talking about the overlord in the group being far away outside of the magic box, then yes. I mean in addition to that.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43550 Posts
January 02 2026 09:10 GMT
#9686
On January 02 2026 18:05 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2026 17:10 KwarK wrote:
On January 02 2026 16:34 Comedy wrote:
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.

In addition to the magic box?


What do you mean by that? You mean that once they are balled up if you magic box them they will stay balled up or?

If all selected units are within a magic box then the game UI will formation move them, they’ll move the same distance and maintain relative separation among themselves. If they’re not within a magic box then they’ll point move, they’ll all try to climb on top of each other on a single point. That’s why you make groups of mutalisk plus an overlord on the far side of the map. The addition of the overlord ensures no magic box which makes mutalisk treat every move as a point move.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
January 02 2026 09:14 GMT
#9687
On January 02 2026 18:10 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2026 18:05 Comedy wrote:
On January 02 2026 17:10 KwarK wrote:
On January 02 2026 16:34 Comedy wrote:
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.

In addition to the magic box?


What do you mean by that? You mean that once they are balled up if you magic box them they will stay balled up or?

If all selected units are within a magic box then the game UI will formation move them, they’ll move the same distance and maintain relative separation among themselves. If they’re not within a magic box then they’ll point move, they’ll all try to climb on top of each other on a single point. That’s why you make groups of mutalisk plus an overlord on the far side of the map. The addition of the overlord ensures no magic box which makes mutalisk treat every move as a point move.


ah yes I do mean in addition to that. I know about the overlord needing to be in the group.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8797 Posts
January 02 2026 11:31 GMT
#9688
have you tried giving move commands in opposing directions? so instead of 5 different move commands all pointed in the same direction as what the mutas are already facing, you go back and forth in directions that "catch" straggling mutalisks.

otherwise you could also group your mutas with a larva first. larva usually gives an easier clump than overlords do
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1044 Posts
January 06 2026 07:07 GMT
#9689
On January 02 2026 20:31 evilfatsh1t wrote:
have you tried giving move commands in opposing directions? so instead of 5 different move commands all pointed in the same direction as what the mutas are already facing, you go back and forth in directions that "catch" straggling mutalisks.

otherwise you could also group your mutas with a larva first. larva usually gives an easier clump than overlords do


To add to this, it shouldn't be 180 degrees apart, more like 30 degrees apart so that the straggling mutas are closer to the point than the rest and go in a more straight path while the rest go in a diagonal

try clicking around on points spread far apart to get a feel for it and stare directly at the mutas, if you watch where you're clicking you won't see the subtle stack changes
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada436 Posts
January 16 2026 00:56 GMT
#9690
On January 02 2026 16:34 Comedy wrote:
Is there any trick to make mutas ball up as efficiently as possible other than clicking right click a lot? I spam right clicks but when I watch pro streams they still seem more efficient at truly balling them.


hawk's muta micro tutorial
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https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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TonDan04
Profile Joined October 2025
14 Posts
January 19 2026 18:37 GMT
#9691
Does maphacking still happen on battle.net?
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey654 Posts
January 19 2026 21:14 GMT
#9692
On January 06 2026 16:07 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2026 20:31 evilfatsh1t wrote:
have you tried giving move commands in opposing directions? so instead of 5 different move commands all pointed in the same direction as what the mutas are already facing, you go back and forth in directions that "catch" straggling mutalisks.

otherwise you could also group your mutas with a larva first. larva usually gives an easier clump than overlords do


To add to this, it shouldn't be 180 degrees apart, more like 30 degrees apart so that the straggling mutas are closer to the point than the rest and go in a more straight path while the rest go in a diagonal

try clicking around on points spread far apart to get a feel for it and stare directly at the mutas, if you watch where you're clicking you won't see the subtle stack changes

I heard it was an 11 o'clock turn. Otherwise mutalisks would stop in motion and you'd stop kiting. So, instead of 6 o'clock to 12, 6-11, or 5-12. Never in a straight back forward motion. That is the best mutalisks can turn in a radius.
Turrican
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1044 Posts
January 23 2026 08:08 GMT
#9693
On January 20 2026 03:37 TonDan04 wrote:
Does maphacking still happen on battle.net?

Yes, a guy blind made all the counters to what I was doing the whole game without scouting. I can give you a replay if you would like, but I'd have to find it
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey654 Posts
January 29 2026 12:46 GMT
#9694
Has anybody successfully exploited Starcraft dodecahedron range to break stalemates? I'm continuing from this and this threads?
Looks like any units +4 range can exploit uneven rectangle geometry of bunkers, but more rounded units might take more range to exploit the +1 bug.
Turrican
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