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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 30 2004 09:55 GMT
#121
On November 30 2004 06:38 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 06:06 poor newb wrote:
sci vessals > zerg
just mass sci vessals and irradiate everything, get some mm to protect aginst scourage


you obviously don't get it. if you keep your marines and vessels together he can dark swarm and kill the marines before you irradiatet "everything" + he can scourge your vessels at the same time. If you try to fly over to his defilers to irradiate them you cannot protect them with m&m.

I just played This game which demonstrates the power of dark swarm pretty well
http://www.wgtour.com/match.php?action=dl&datab=broodwar&id=486060&url=upload/ladder/broodwar/5941in9.rep


As I watching the rep I thought shit, Infinity is getting raped, but then I realized that the Terran could never leave his base with his main army because if the Zerg ever got the Terran ramp it would be gg. I still don't think swarm is over powered though, because its a game-ender for the Zerg and you should lose if Zerg has that many units + swarm. For the rep, interesting build, it looked a bit rough in that rep, but I think it would be an interesting strat to have in a repetoire to play once in a while.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
_GniL_
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada66 Posts
November 30 2004 10:01 GMT
#122
On November 30 2004 18:47 LastWish wrote:
I get sick and tired of these terran cryings -
How come T>Z with all these imba swarms around lol. Actually if there were no swarms, i doubt zerg would have any chance to beat 200/200 Terran Army. If u want to make swarm 125 why not but don't forget to make iradiate 100 too.


Exactly Zerg has no chance of beating a 200/200 terran army.And with all the bullshit Terran can do like just bunker up you need dark swarm.I don't hear people bitching when Oov is sitting just massing and rolling out when Zerg can't do shit.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
November 30 2004 10:07 GMT
#123
oOv style isnt jsut about "massing and rolling out" dickwad.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
_GniL_
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada66 Posts
November 30 2004 10:10 GMT
#124
Oov overpowers you with superior Macro which is extremely difficult to keep up with from the Zerg view.You've seen so many pros just get wasted TvZ by Oov that it's not even funny.So i know it's more then 1 thing asswipe
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
November 30 2004 10:26 GMT
#125
well these pro zergs simply arnt as good.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 30 2004 10:28 GMT
#126
On November 30 2004 19:26 tlstmddn wrote:
well these pro zergs simply arnt as good.


Zerg has been the most used race in korea since starcraft was introduced over there, what are the fucking odds that the best players just happen to be terran?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
November 30 2004 10:31 GMT
#127
just because its the most used race doesnt mean they will be automatically better.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 30 2004 10:35 GMT
#128
On November 30 2004 19:31 tlstmddn wrote:
just because its the most used race doesnt mean they will be automatically better.


Hmm, statistically if more players used Zerg the higher the possibility of having talented Zerg players. This is why large schools usually dominate smaller schools in sports, they have a larger talent pool.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
November 30 2004 10:49 GMT
#129
who knows? maby they are not as commited or dont practice as much? Anyway where is the proof that says there are more zergs than terrans?
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
mightypenny_ph
Profile Joined September 2004
Philippines259 Posts
November 30 2004 11:00 GMT
#130
swarm is zerg's best weapon!!!!
SlayerS_`BoxeR` + [ReD]NaDa
ProudCappi
Profile Joined October 2004
United States366 Posts
November 30 2004 11:02 GMT
#131
Hmm... a TvT final and *WAAHH* the game is imbalanced.

I wonder if these crying zergs would be crying if it had been a ZvZ final.

-proud capitalist- |freedom|property|individualism|self-reliance|
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
November 30 2004 11:02 GMT
#132
Darkswarm SHOULD be strong since it's often the only way to kill off a terran who has a large force, with a large one of your own. Perhaps it shouldn't remain for as long as it does now, but I don't think it's that big of an issue. You remember that they reduced the time disruption web was active right? Perhaps a similar scenario...
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
z3rgy
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)100 Posts
November 30 2004 11:18 GMT
#133
lots of zerg palyers are doing good these days pro zergs dont sux look at chojja O_O
hi
jangnan
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1 Post
November 30 2004 11:19 GMT
#134
you people sadden me.......
if you can't play late game in zvt, that means that you are just not good enough.
you can do many things.
drop harass, guardian( also harass), ultra, hydra lurker ssam ssa muk gi, etc.
stop crying about it it is fair.
Pob
Profile Joined February 2004
880 Posts
November 30 2004 11:58 GMT
#135
agree with the guy who said if you are gonna make swarm more expensive at least make irridate more expensive , ridiculous spell
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
November 30 2004 12:16 GMT
#136
On November 30 2004 19:35 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 19:31 tlstmddn wrote:
just because its the most used race doesnt mean they will be automatically better.


Hmm, statistically if more players used Zerg the higher the possibility of having talented Zerg players. This is why large schools usually dominate smaller schools in sports, they have a larger talent pool.


The china should be #1 in Football World Cup

Ohhh wait, they are not.

(no bad cooments on china intended)
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ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 30 2004 12:24 GMT
#137
On November 30 2004 13:53 poor newb wrote:
learn how to move units




just move your units out of it..........
its not that hard.
just try to keep your units at the zergs entrance.
if someone can push a terran into his own base and he is losing to dark swarms, he is most likely going to lose the game.
imo terran is the hardest to push back and to break into.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
November 30 2004 12:53 GMT
#138
On November 30 2004 21:16 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 19:35 A3iL3r0n wrote:
On November 30 2004 19:31 tlstmddn wrote:
just because its the most used race doesnt mean they will be automatically better.


Hmm, statistically if more players used Zerg the higher the possibility of having talented Zerg players. This is why large schools usually dominate smaller schools in sports, they have a larger talent pool.


The china should be #1 in Football World Cup

Ohhh wait, they are not.

(no bad cooments on china intended)


That's not the same as the talent pool discussion because China may have a big talent pool but their culture does not support or nurture football as much as America does. Please think before you make false analogies.
_GniL_
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada66 Posts
December 01 2004 03:34 GMT
#139
ZvT late game if you have enough of a economy then you should win and if u contained the Terran long enough.TvZ you need to win mid game when zerg is usually at their weakest once Zerg has
Ultra/Ling/Defiler or another combo then it's really hard for the Terran to win.TvZ/ZvT is definately the hardest matchup and takes the most skill out of all the possible matchups there are in SC.
And it's qualitity player not quantity.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 03:47 GMT
#140
ZvT is not about containing the terran they can break out easilly with tanks. TvZ is all about winning the battles you fight, if you lose one badly the chances are you will lose the game.

Btw do they teach english in canada?
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
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