On December 03 2004 12:24 Jethro wrote:
the zealot is a tier 1 unit, and an ultra is a tier 3. Shoud'nt the ultra's own zealot's? Toss have many units that counters ultra's pretty good: DT's, Reaver's, Goon's, DA's and Archon's.

it's the same principal with ultra's vs rine's. an ultra is a high tech unit while marines is NO TECH units.

This is not W3, protoss&terran don't have tier units

loztdignity

Sweden176 Posts

December 04 2004 18:30 GMT

#182

hmm well perhaps it is, but then again, if it was don't you think zerg would be dominating Terrans then?
I kinda agree that its perhaps a bit strong, not the spell itself but consume. They shuold tak consume away or something, but then again, I almost never have problems with Dark Swarm since, like Infinity also said, its VERY micro-intense and its very hard to pull off with alot of units, so basically it won't win the game for you.

PIKI

Poland143 Posts

December 05 2004 18:51 GMT

#183

DualTournament - 2004/12/05 - Game 5 Xellos vs Clon
Clon easly rape Xellos with fast defiler. He has only 1 gas, wtf!?

Pob

880 Posts

December 05 2004 19:08 GMT

#184

On December 06 2004 03:51 PIKI wrote:
DualTournament - 2004/12/05 - Game 5 Xellos vs Clon
Clon easly rape Xellos with fast defiler. He has only 1 gas, wtf!?

bwahahaha 1 gas defilers , terran deserved to die

uiCk

Canada1925 Posts

December 05 2004 22:42 GMT

#185

On December 06 2004 04:08 Pob wrote:

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bwahahaha 1 gas defilers , terran deserved to die

yea, seriously :/

ahk-gosu

Korea (South)2099 Posts

December 05 2004 23:48 GMT

#186

i second that

worst.player

625 Posts

December 06 2004 09:19 GMT

#187

Why can't you use 3 valks w/ upg (or just 4 valks) to fight off any scourges while you irrad the defilers?

Theorycraft on the spot. Prolly sux.. but how much are valks? 125 gas? Worth it if you can just irad all his defilers as you please. :O

prolly sux early game though, when you don't have an expo for 2nd gas.

NuclearAntelope

United States1369 Posts

December 06 2004 09:46 GMT

#188

I have to respond to the topic question by saying "yes, it is". What can the average guy do to stop dark swarm? For those of us who don't have extreme micro/iradiate skill, dark swarm cannot really be countered tvz. If a zerg does a dark swarm lurk drop on a t main, all the buildings that can't fly will just be razed to the ground. Thankfully(I think tomson touched on this), zergs don't use the move enough to win the game, they just do it to make a comeback.

ComunistHobo

Canada208 Posts

December 06 2004 09:54 GMT

#189

If T had a solid counter for it then Z would get owned even worst then they already get in TvZ

kuwakJai

Thailand198 Posts

December 06 2004 11:13 GMT

#190

yes, they probly are if u looked at in scientifically.
but id like to look at it just like something of terran having that option of early game bunk adv (or d/a) and zerg having late game swarm adv