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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
example: 1 darkswarm + 2 lurks can make a way completely impassable(?) for a whole terran army while you can easily counter his main with all you got. example 2: 1 darkswarm + 2 lurks can completely shut off an oponnents expansion. not only that, but thanks to consume you can pretty much cast swarm over and over again. The only way effective way to kill those is obviously irradiate. but its pretty much impossible, thx to the ai, to keep vessels alive vs zerglings + scourges. | ||
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United States1936 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Seriously : U have to play with a different style like having more sci and firebats i think or at least get some mine it's always good but near the scv minerals... Oh well fuk it die plz scv ! | ||
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Kobayashi
Portugal1970 Posts
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seeyoulater
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TheGreenBeret
United Kingdom548 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 29 2004 11:23 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: i do think so. example: 1 darkswarm + 2 lurks can make a way completely impassable(?) for a whole terran army while you can easily counter his main with all you got. example 2: 1 darkswarm + 2 lurks can completely shut off an oponnents expansion. not only that, but thanks to consume you can pretty much cast swarm over and over again. The only way effective way to kill those is obviously irradiate. but its pretty much impossible, thx to the ai, to keep vessels alive vs zerglings + scourges. Matrix a firebat^_^ Irradiate the lurkers. That's where you need the sick apm of progamers (nada irradiating is o_O) | ||
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TheGreenBeret
United Kingdom548 Posts
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FriEndLy86
Poland104 Posts
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simple1004
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PIKI
Poland143 Posts
Consume is imbalanced :/ | ||
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United States1936 Posts
edit: except obviously....totally the opposite:-P | ||
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tomson
Poland641 Posts
What I find peculiar is that Zergs tend to use it to actually get back to the game, rather than to increase their advantage if they have one. I think that's one very common mistake in ZvT. I also don't know why Terrans don't make a whole lot of Firebats (meaning 10+) when they do encounter Zerglings + Swarms (no Lurkers). You shouldn't get carried away with the number of Vessels though. 8 is absolutely enough, you don't gain from having more. But then again, you know, every race has its moment in the game. Early game for Zerg is rock, paper, scissors which was proved in the recent BoxeR vs YellOw series. | ||
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Tnargav
Poland174 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
Why cry about one imbalance, there are quite a few. There is a strategy forum for things like this. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 29 2004 12:06 tomson wrote: Yeah, impassable is a word. What I find peculiar is that Zergs tend to use it to actually get back to the game, rather than to increase their advantage if they have one. I think that's one very common mistake in ZvT. I also don't know why Terrans don't make a whole lot of Firebats (meaning 10+) when they do encounter Zerglings + Swarms (no Lurkers). You shouldn't get carried away with the number of Vessels though. 8 is absolutely enough, you don't gain from having more. But then again, you know, every race has its moment in the game. Early game for Zerg is rock, paper, scissors which was proved in the recent BoxeR vs YellOw series. Making loads of firebats is good vs swarm regardless isn't it :O I mean if you matrix them they can deal with decent amounts of lurkers and hydras wont hit them/lings die horribly. And ehm tanks hitting them to kill lurkers I guess could work? | ||
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yOOysi
Poland726 Posts
10 tanks + M&M with ups 2:2 is able to crush a huge number of zerg units. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On November 29 2004 12:06 tomson wrote: What I find peculiar is that Zergs tend to use it to actually get back to the game, rather than to increase their advantage if they have one. I think that's one very common mistake in ZvT. Yea i noticed that too, especially at my own zvt, i tried to improve it though, but i think the main factor is that dark swarm is indeed very micro intensive, thus the perfect moment to use it when you have less units to control. when i have 150 supply hydra/lurk i find it amazingly hard to get a few defilers and micro my dark swarm effectively | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
But yes, bats are good vs lurkers. | ||
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