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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 01 2004 04:02 GMT
#141
On November 30 2004 21:16 IntoTheWow wrote:


The china should be #1 in Football World Cup

Ohhh wait, they are not.

(no bad cooments on china intended)


There are more variables in this example than in comparing pro zergs to pro terrans. Completely invalid point.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
_GniL_
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada66 Posts
December 01 2004 04:07 GMT
#142
On December 01 2004 12:47 tlstmddn wrote:
ZvT is not about containing the terran they can break out easilly with tanks. TvZ is all about winning the battles you fight, if you lose one badly the chances are you will lose the game.

Btw do they teach english in canada?


When i say containment i mean not allowing them out.If they come out you kill them.Not by leaving lurkers burrowed so tanks and kill them.Btw yes they do teach english here and we speak it better then britian k?
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-01 04:16:30
December 01 2004 04:16 GMT
#143
Terran dont need alot of expansions to win vs zerg.....containment???? ..more like waiting for me to smear your canadian ass on the floor.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
_GniL_
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada66 Posts
December 01 2004 04:25 GMT
#144
uh dude how many British people play SC.Go play CS with all your noobie brits
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 04:27 GMT
#145
lol..
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 01 2004 04:49 GMT
#146
On December 01 2004 13:07 _GniL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2004 12:47 tlstmddn wrote:
ZvT is not about containing the terran they can break out easilly with tanks. TvZ is all about winning the battles you fight, if you lose one badly the chances are you will lose the game.

Btw do they teach english in canada?


When i say containment i mean not allowing them out.If they come out you kill them.Not by leaving lurkers burrowed so tanks and kill them.Btw yes they do teach english here and we speak it better then britian k?

No you don't speak it better than the brits.
And I have no clue what you are arguing about.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 01 2004 05:34 GMT
#147
On December 01 2004 13:16 tlstmddn wrote:
Terran dont need alot of expansions to win vs zerg.....containment???? ..more like waiting for me to smear your canadian ass on the floor.


You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Zerg many times waits for terran to come out and flank him at an oppurtune time, this is containment.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 05:40 GMT
#148
thats not containment =/ thats just standard zvt.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 01 2004 05:46 GMT
#149
On December 01 2004 14:40 tlstmddn wrote:
thats not containment =/ thats just standard zvt.


It's containment if terran can't move out his main force and kill expos or take more expos, is it not? He said zvt is about zerg containment, that is what he was refering to, and he would be correct.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 01 2004 05:54 GMT
#150
Zerg with hive its very dangerous, the classical T > Z advantage is totally gone when hive is in the game, specially if the T do not have lots of SV.

The defiler its pretty cheap, so cheap sometimes its better to irradiate the lurks under the swarm, i think defilers should be more expensive to make irradiate worth.
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SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 06:02 GMT
#151
Containment occurs when terran is prevented from expanding or forced to stay in his base. This can be due constant muta harrassment or drops(lurker//ling/hydra). Flanking wont to stop terran from picking off zerg expos with drops.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-01 06:36:34
December 01 2004 06:35 GMT
#152
On December 01 2004 14:54 baal wrote:
Zerg with hive its very dangerous, the classical T > Z advantage is totally gone when hive is in the game, specially if the T do not have lots of SV.

The defiler its pretty cheap, so cheap sometimes its better to irradiate the lurks under the swarm, i think defilers should be more expensive to make irradiate worth.


the point to irradiate defilers is to stop zerg from using dark swarm, if you just use it on lurkers then darkswarm+ultra+ling will still kill you

remember that terran owns lurkers without darkswarm
How do you mine minerals?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 01 2004 06:36 GMT
#153
On December 01 2004 15:02 tlstmddn wrote:
Containment occurs when terran is prevented from expanding or forced to stay in his base. This can be due constant muta harrassment or drops(lurker//ling/hydra). Flanking wont to stop terran from picking off zerg expos with drops.


Your definition of containment is much more narrow than most other players.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 06:52 GMT
#154
Irradiating and dropping can throw his flank into dissaray and if you get the timing right you can just roll out and paste those critters.

example replay: http://ygclan.vgaclub.co.kr/?m=replay&board=gosureplay&rno=35555
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 01 2004 07:19 GMT
#155
On December 01 2004 15:52 tlstmddn wrote:
Irradiating and dropping can throw his flank into dissaray and if you get the timing right you can just roll out and paste those critters.


Most zergs use scourge and sunken/lurk at expos ^^
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
December 01 2004 07:32 GMT
#156
If you watched that replay you would have seen that oovs drops were not all that effective but he still managed to break the "containment" without any trouble. Ive seen this done many times and tried similar things myself.. I just dont feel like im contained by a zerg who just trys to flank the middle. Its just part of the zergs game style, if they didnt flank they would almost certainly lose.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
TheMann
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada7 Posts
December 01 2004 09:11 GMT
#157
Containment is keeping the terran in their base by drops/muta harassment.Also preventing expansions is containment.
A house divided cannot stand
eternalbliss
Profile Joined August 2004
United States1035 Posts
December 01 2004 10:55 GMT
#158
Fuck Dark Swarm, so cheap, t.t.
SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
December 01 2004 11:29 GMT
#159
best counter is speed+mine vultures, you can kill defilers, you can place mines and slow him down, and more importantly, you can kill ultras easily and you can kill lurkers inside swarm

and drone harass helps too
Son Of Law
mightypenny_ph
Profile Joined September 2004
Philippines259 Posts
December 01 2004 11:41 GMT
#160
yup, T has no choice but mines, bats and vessels!!! which requires too much hand speed...
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