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On November 30 2004 21:16 IntoTheWow wrote:
The china should be #1 in Football World Cup
Ohhh wait, they are not.
(no bad cooments on china intended)
There are more variables in this example than in comparing pro zergs to pro terrans. Completely invalid point.
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On December 01 2004 12:47 tlstmddn wrote: ZvT is not about containing the terran they can break out easilly with tanks. TvZ is all about winning the battles you fight, if you lose one badly the chances are you will lose the game.
Btw do they teach english in canada?
When i say containment i mean not allowing them out.If they come out you kill them.Not by leaving lurkers burrowed so tanks and kill them.Btw yes they do teach english here and we speak it better then britian k?
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Terran dont need alot of expansions to win vs zerg.....containment???? ..more like waiting for me to smear your canadian ass on the floor.
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uh dude how many British people play SC.Go play CS with all your noobie brits
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On December 01 2004 13:07 _GniL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2004 12:47 tlstmddn wrote: ZvT is not about containing the terran they can break out easilly with tanks. TvZ is all about winning the battles you fight, if you lose one badly the chances are you will lose the game.
Btw do they teach english in canada? When i say containment i mean not allowing them out.If they come out you kill them.Not by leaving lurkers burrowed so tanks and kill them.Btw yes they do teach english here and we speak it better then britian k? No you don't speak it better than the brits. And I have no clue what you are arguing about.
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On December 01 2004 13:16 tlstmddn wrote: Terran dont need alot of expansions to win vs zerg.....containment???? ..more like waiting for me to smear your canadian ass on the floor.
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Zerg many times waits for terran to come out and flank him at an oppurtune time, this is containment.
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thats not containment =/ thats just standard zvt.
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On December 01 2004 14:40 tlstmddn wrote: thats not containment =/ thats just standard zvt.
It's containment if terran can't move out his main force and kill expos or take more expos, is it not? He said zvt is about zerg containment, that is what he was refering to, and he would be correct.
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Zerg with hive its very dangerous, the classical T > Z advantage is totally gone when hive is in the game, specially if the T do not have lots of SV.
The defiler its pretty cheap, so cheap sometimes its better to irradiate the lurks under the swarm, i think defilers should be more expensive to make irradiate worth.
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Containment occurs when terran is prevented from expanding or forced to stay in his base. This can be due constant muta harrassment or drops(lurker//ling/hydra). Flanking wont to stop terran from picking off zerg expos with drops.
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On December 01 2004 14:54 baal wrote: Zerg with hive its very dangerous, the classical T > Z advantage is totally gone when hive is in the game, specially if the T do not have lots of SV.
The defiler its pretty cheap, so cheap sometimes its better to irradiate the lurks under the swarm, i think defilers should be more expensive to make irradiate worth.
the point to irradiate defilers is to stop zerg from using dark swarm, if you just use it on lurkers then darkswarm+ultra+ling will still kill you
remember that terran owns lurkers without darkswarm
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On December 01 2004 15:02 tlstmddn wrote: Containment occurs when terran is prevented from expanding or forced to stay in his base. This can be due constant muta harrassment or drops(lurker//ling/hydra). Flanking wont to stop terran from picking off zerg expos with drops.
Your definition of containment is much more narrow than most other players.
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On December 01 2004 15:52 tlstmddn wrote: Irradiating and dropping can throw his flank into dissaray and if you get the timing right you can just roll out and paste those critters.
Most zergs use scourge and sunken/lurk at expos ^^
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If you watched that replay you would have seen that oovs drops were not all that effective but he still managed to break the "containment" without any trouble. Ive seen this done many times and tried similar things myself.. I just dont feel like im contained by a zerg who just trys to flank the middle. Its just part of the zergs game style, if they didnt flank they would almost certainly lose.
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Containment is keeping the terran in their base by drops/muta harassment.Also preventing expansions is containment.
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Fuck Dark Swarm, so cheap, t.t.
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best counter is speed+mine vultures, you can kill defilers, you can place mines and slow him down, and more importantly, you can kill ultras easily and you can kill lurkers inside swarm
and drone harass helps too
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yup, T has no choice but mines, bats and vessels!!! which requires too much hand speed...
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