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Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
August 19 2008 00:04 GMT
#81
What about the people who say "gg" before the game?
To me it sounds like they're being cocky, but maybe they're trying to be good mannered?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 19 2008 00:09 GMT
#82
On August 19 2008 09:04 1337o wrote:
What about the people who say "gg" before the game?
To me it sounds like they're being cocky, but maybe they're trying to be good mannered?

I think you are just misunderstanding what they mean. It's not meant to be cocky in my experience. Sometimes I type 'gl hf' but more recently I just type 'gg' and I don' t mean anything negative by it.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 19 2008 00:25 GMT
#83
I dunno, if I get my ass totally handed to me, is it REALLY a gg? Maybe it's because I come from a different playing background, where if your opponent says gg in a game where he totally kicks your ass, it's considered arrogant and rude because it wasn't a good game.
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cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-19 00:35:28
August 19 2008 00:29 GMT
#84
On August 19 2008 09:04 1337o wrote:
What about the people who say "gg" before the game?
To me it sounds like they're being cocky, but maybe they're trying to be good mannered?


na that came from the koreans and their broken english.. they're basically wishing you guys to have a good game. I use it too since a lot of koreans dono what gl/hf is =\
how about typing gg after a game in korean font which ends up meaning haha instead of WW which is good game
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
August 19 2008 00:31 GMT
#85
On August 19 2008 06:19 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2008 06:18 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote:
I say gg all the time but i alt qq instantly after, It causes me physical pain to see my opponent type gg back

Yes I neglected to mention... the issue of whether or not to stick around after typing out. Personally, I've recently started to do ggaltqq in one fluid motion... and this seems to work the best to minimize chances for bm.

That's the way I do it.
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-19 00:36:59
August 19 2008 00:34 GMT
#86
Wtf ? Just say gg when you lose. I mean do you see any guy who doesn't embrace their hand after a soccer match or a tennis game ? There are exceptions but like what ? 0.01% ? This is just stupid to just leave and not saying it weither you played bad or not because saying gg would also mean that your opponent simply played better be it that it was lucky or not. It's part of the game ffs.
When i'm playing against you for example i don't care if i've played bad or not, if i lose it's simply because he was more prepared / stressless (spelling ?) / whatever reason you can find. If you felt you played bad and then feel like you don't have to tell it then it's just childish behavior. Simple as that.

I feel bad, so i'm playing bad, does it mean that i shouldn't say gg because our opponent was feeling a little better than us ? No. It's not their fault if their mind were happier than us and thus allowed them to play better. By this logic, i don't see any reason to not say him gg because he just won the game ?

I'm pretty sure the ones who don't say it, are either, not competitive player in a RL sports, or simply they're so fucking bm, and doesn't assume their loses. I don't care if you were being distracted by a girlfriend, a cat hell even an insect that goes throught your eye, it's part of the game.
If you're really being distracted then just get rid of it ffs.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 19 2008 00:41 GMT
#87
On August 19 2008 09:34 RaiZ wrote:
Wtf ? Just say gg when you lose. I mean do you see any guy who doesn't embrace their hand after a soccer match or a tennis game ? There are exceptions but like what ? 0.01% ? This is just stupid to just leave and not saying it weither you played bad or not because saying gg would also mean that your opponent simply played better be it that it was lucky or not. It's part of the game ffs.
When i'm playing against you for example i don't care if i've played bad or not, if i lose it's simply because he was more prepared / stressless (spelling ?) / whatever reason you can find. If you felt you played bad and then feel like you don't have to tell it then it's just childish behavior. Simple as that.

I feel bad, so i'm playing bad, does it mean that i shouldn't say gg because our opponent was feeling a little better than us ? No. It's not their fault if their mind were happier than us and thus allowed them to play better. By this logic, i don't see any reason to not say him gg because he just won the game ?

I'm pretty sure the ones who don't say it, are either, not competitive player in a RL sports, or simply they're so fucking bm, and doesn't assume their loses. I don't care if you were being distracted by a girlfriend, a cat hell even an insect that goes throught your eye, it's part of the game.
If you're really being distracted then just get rid of it ffs.

Your entire argument hinges upon your apparent belief that the only reason not to gg is to contest that it was a good game. That is not necessarily true. The issue being discussed is whether or not there exists actual legitimate reasons for being relatively obligated to gg. I think people who require it are just being greedy.
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
August 19 2008 00:41 GMT
#88
GG all the time should be the way to go.. it has become a trend in SC.. its part of the manner game!
w/e
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 19 2008 00:42 GMT
#89
On August 19 2008 09:41 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:
GG all the time should be the way to go.. it has become a trend in SC.. its part of the manner game!

If the trend is for people to get offended for a dumb reason... I believe that is their problem.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 19 2008 00:46 GMT
#90
I've never ever felt offended when my opponent did not say "gg". I don't understand why so many peoples' satisfaction hinges on two characters. That is just fail. I don't even know where to begin.

No, it's not part of the game. It's some stupid arbitrary rule you pulled out of your arse that the game has no knowledge of whatsoever. So your opponent left without GG'ing? Harden the fuck up.

By the way, I always say "well played" or "nice win" or "gg". But if my opponent doesn't, how is that my business? How is he obligated? I especially don't want him to say it if he doesn't mean it. I'd rather him altqq than patronise me with some pretentious bullshit that's only said in an effort to appease the most sensitive of retards.
Oh no
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
August 19 2008 00:57 GMT
#91
Seriously dude, how old are you ? It's within nature to say gg when you lose, i don't care if the game was good or not because gg by its definition is now something like shaking hands after a sport's game. Simple as that.

You'll always see when someone get out of the field without giving a single shaking hand he'll become a bad mannered person, simply because he doesn't want to admit his loss. How hard is that to understand ?

So i fell offended by nature when i'm winning games against ppl that just leave without any reason. If you think it's stupid then i don't know what to say to you.

It's even worse when someones say : Lol re ? God this is even more deppressing. Would've been way better if he said gg re ?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
ailouros
Profile Joined August 2008
United States193 Posts
August 19 2008 00:58 GMT
#92
I type gg when I lose. And if I get a gg when I win, i say it anyway just in case the other person sorta expects one back. doesn't bother me.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 19 2008 00:59 GMT
#93
You have all the right to not say "good morning" if you don't think it's a really good morning. But every sane human being on the planet WILL think you're bad mannered :p
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
August 19 2008 01:02 GMT
#94
Much the same way as shaking hands after a game or bowing after a bout in some martial arts. I think the idea is to provide some kind of closure to the game.

During those games you spend the entire time trying to undermine or overcome your opponent. Generally you will subconciously dehumanise them as just 'an opponent' rather than as a fellow human being while you are focused. Saying gg provides the closure indicating the end to this mentality, eg since the game is over.
It is meant to indicate a sorta no hard feelings attitude, 'we just played a game where we tried to kill each other's stuff, but it's not personal'.

I'm with Chill on this one, just leaving a game feels abrupt, like a chess player just standing up and leaving the table without resigning their king.

On the other hands, playing with friends is one of the few times i don't bother gg, although i mostly do it out of habit anyway. Since your probably going to talk to them in channel anyway, it's not like the last impression you leave with them is you leaving a game abruptly.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 19 2008 01:05 GMT
#95
On August 19 2008 09:57 RaiZ wrote:
Seriously dude, how old are you ? It's within nature to say gg when you lose, i don't care if the game was good or not because gg by its definition is now something like shaking hands after a sport's game. Simple as that.

You'll always see when someone get out of the field without giving a single shaking hand he'll become a bad mannered person, simply because he doesn't want to admit his loss. How hard is that to understand ?

So i fell offended by nature when i'm winning games against ppl that just leave without any reason. If you think it's stupid then i don't know what to say to you.

It's even worse when someones say : Lol re ? God this is even more deppressing. Would've been way better if he said gg re ?

Hi 'dude'. I'm 21. Out on the field (I played football for 9 years) I would always shake hands with every other player after the game. I like it, I enjoy the sportsmanship. All I'm saying is, that if one of the guys on the opposing team decides NOT to shake my hand, well that's his decision. I'm not going to get sand all in my vagina just because some guy doesn't want to shake hands, and neither should you. And no, they don't leave without any reason, they leave because they lost. Just take the win and go play another, don't sit and dwell on it like it's some unfinished business.
Oh no
Worked!
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada264 Posts
August 19 2008 01:05 GMT
#96
I don't say gg but I sometimes tell them they are luckiest trash ever and re asap o_O
~_~
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 19 2008 01:09 GMT
#97
I say GG to my opponents every 20 seconds while throwing smiles at them, to let them know I am their friend and they can play me without feeling bad manner. So every 20 seconds I say one of these
gg
gg =)
gg :D
GG >
gG O_O)/'')
GG =O
gg

I don't get why my opponents think i'm bad manner, I say gg
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
August 19 2008 01:09 GMT
#98
For me personally i've always said gg when the game is over if i lost, and if i won i wait for them to say gg before i do, if they don't then i won't. i say gg/gl before the match just to say 'have a good game and good luck', just another form of good sportsmanship imo.

as for people not saying it, i could care less. i find it more of a personal preference rather than a unwritten rule that you have to do everygame. personally i do it, and some others don't, and i'm not offended if they don't do it, or consider it bad manner. bad manner is when they say 'rofl you suck' and leave.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 19 2008 01:12 GMT
#99
No, it's not part of the game. It's some stupid arbitrary rule you pulled out of your arse that the game has no knowledge of whatsoever. So your opponent left without GG'ing? Harden the fuck up.

Well I think the idea is more that between veteran SC players (people who obviously know saying 'gg' is customary), someone considerate of another player's feelings might sense something is wrong if they don't type 'gg.' It doesn't inherently mean they're upset or whatever, but it usually does, which is where confusion comes from. It's also abrupt to just leave without saying anything (and thus awkward).

At D ranks, it's no skin off my nose that people haven't learned 'gg' is customary, but at higher levels, not saying it is like just being a rebel without a cause. Common. It's miscommunication and the person who just leaves knows that. There's no reason not to say it, and it's always better than not saying it, whether you believe not saying it isn't inherently bad or not. It's like getting supply depot on 8 instead of 9. It's not gonna break you, but 9 is better.
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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
August 19 2008 01:25 GMT
#100
On August 19 2008 06:18 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote:
I say gg all the time but i alt qq instantly after, It causes me physical pain to see my opponent type gg back


amen
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