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stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
August 20 2008 16:24 GMT
#241
For me gg doesn't have a lot to do with manner.

- Saying gg means you conceed defeat and the game is over.
- Not saying gg means you had to quit the game because something else came up.

I do recognize this probably only applies to me.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
August 20 2008 17:12 GMT
#242
GG is for me very close to shaking hands after a chess match (the loser initiates it). But if shaking hands is pretty much perfect thing to do after a match to congratulate your opponent (you don't even have to say anything), the GG is not. For me it's what everyone does to be more like gosus (I suspect they started the tradition?), but if gosus can claim their games to be "good", more than 95% of us can not. But there is the need for a game conclusion so what else can we say? Thanks for the game (TFG) is more natural for me and does not include lying about the game quality in most cases but who would understand that? So much better to just GG and get it over with.

Thanks for the discussion guys )
Krigstar
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden77 Posts
August 20 2008 17:35 GMT
#243
On August 21 2008 02:12 Cheerio wrote:
GG is for me very close to shaking hands after a chess match (the loser initiates it). But if shaking hands is pretty much perfect thing to do after a match to congratulate your opponent (you don't even have to say anything), the GG is not. For me it's what everyone does to be more like gosus (I suspect they started the tradition?), but if gosus can claim their games to be "good", more than 95% of us can not. But there is the need for a game conclusion so what else can we say? Thanks for the game (TFG) is more natural for me and does not include lying about the game quality in most cases but who would understand that? So much better to just GG and get it over with.

Thanks for the discussion guys )


I am 99 % sure gosus didn't start to say GG just cause they thought they played such a great game. You honestly think that initially gamers said GG gradually more often the better they became? Also saying good game is not only in BW, it's in poker and a lot of other games and I can't say I've seen people nitpick on the meaning of the words before. I just don't see the reason to try and make a new meaning of the words when today it IS a sign of respect in the proffesional scene. It's nice to have a quick way of leaving the game fast and at the same time showing a sign of respect. Why would anyone want to change that?

Also it's interesting nony hasn't responded to why he would type GG in a broadcasted game, but not in TSL. The only reason I can find is that he knows that his career would literaly be over with the blink of an eye if he didn't type GG vs Boxer in a broadcasted game i.e. he knows deep inside his way of interpret the words is ridicilous.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
August 21 2008 04:01 GMT
#244
On August 21 2008 00:26 Showtime! wrote:
There is no written rule that says any player has to type "GG" at the end of any game. Simple fact.


simple fact that add nothing to this. ettiquete is not something that need a "written rule"

Just because a Pro does it doesn't mean everyone has to do it. Hell, on many occasions Pros don't even do it.


agree...but again..that's not the point.

Everyone has their own values and beliefs. Just because their system doesn't appease to yours makes theirs anymore right or wrong from yours.


i could say the same thing for you.

There are many other ways of being manner, or showing good sportsmanship.

so?

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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 04:14:26
August 21 2008 04:09 GMT
#245
On August 21 2008 02:35 Krigstar wrote:
Also it's interesting nony hasn't responded to why he would type GG in a broadcasted game, but not in TSL. The only reason I can find is that he knows that his career would literaly be over with the blink of an eye if he didn't type GG vs Boxer in a broadcasted game i.e. he knows deep inside his way of interpret the words is ridicilous.


I don't know the 100% exact context of what you're talking about, but in the TSL broadcasted games there were no gg's given because they were all commentated replays. I don't think any TSL live games were actually broadcasted because of lag issues and stuff.

Edit: I did not realize that there were so many bm ragequitters on tl.net.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
August 21 2008 08:21 GMT
#246
On August 21 2008 02:35 Krigstar wrote:
You honestly think that initially gamers said GG gradually more often the better they became? .

Make a quote of my post where I said that or where such thought was implied.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 08:26:25
August 21 2008 08:26 GMT
#247
backho has given us the solution.

we can all say zizi yO
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
August 21 2008 08:39 GMT
#248
I think there's a lot of good thoughts in this thread...I for one always say it. Here's a question though - do you guys find it bad mannered to not leave within a couple seconds of saying "gg?" I always thought when you said it it was you conceding victory, and I sometimes like to mess around a little more before leaving. However, I can see how it would get annoying if someone kept playing and drew out the game too much longer. Thoughts?
Super serious.
Deleted User 31996
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
843 Posts
August 21 2008 08:41 GMT
#249
if i lose to a gay fag terran fag doing gay terran fag shit

i never gg
Deleted User 31996
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
843 Posts
August 21 2008 08:41 GMT
#250
and lol

"Your mum is so fat, god said gg no re"
LazarusSpeaks
Profile Joined May 2008
100 Posts
August 21 2008 16:07 GMT
#251
Seriously guys, there's nothing to discuss about gg: it stands for "good game"--some people take this literally, some type it before they surrender--responding to it in kind is popular and polite. It can also be used to be arrogant when you feel the game is over in your favor. That's about it.

I usually type "fag" before I surrender. followed by /dnd fag
visit rednob.com for your chance to read old stupid whining that no longer matters
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 17:58:59
August 21 2008 17:57 GMT
#252
Talking about disrespect: I also think it's disrespectful when people fight till the last building. It's like playing till your king is in checkmate positing when the game is already comletely decided, which is disrespectful (unless it's two comlete newbies play) because it means you are questioning your opponent's ability to achieve the very basic task. So under some circumstances (like the opponent loses all his bases exept on an island and starts teching to cariers when you have 4 bases already) it's acceptable to you to say GG, as your opponent has already shown disrespect and the actual game has ALREADY ended. Not to mention some retards hoping for you to drop out or being late for smthing important.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
August 21 2008 18:11 GMT
#253
On August 21 2008 17:39 Centric wrote:
I think there's a lot of good thoughts in this thread...I for one always say it. Here's a question though - do you guys find it bad mannered to not leave within a couple seconds of saying "gg?" I always thought when you said it it was you conceding victory, and I sometimes like to mess around a little more before leaving. However, I can see how it would get annoying if someone kept playing and drew out the game too much longer. Thoughts?


i think when a gg happen is when both know who is the winner. in that case for me its ok. when i gg i stay a while too analyzing the game, etc..

but if someone gg´s in the middle of nothing and u´re unsure if u really won is kinda bm
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 21 2008 18:32 GMT
#254
gg is to starcraft as tapping out is to mma.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
August 21 2008 18:35 GMT
#255
I agree with ppl saying that its bm too type *gg* to somone when you are winning, before they have said it. Ppl that do this deserves to have to run around and kill all buildsings\etc.. its a very bm thing to do =/
“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
August 21 2008 18:42 GMT
#256
On August 21 2008 02:35 Krigstar wrote:
Also it's interesting nony hasn't responded to why he would type GG in a broadcasted game, but not in TSL. The only reason I can find is that he knows that his career would literaly be over with the blink of an eye if he didn't type GG vs Boxer in a broadcasted game i.e. he knows deep inside his way of interpret the words is ridicilous.

Is it not because the TSL casts were from replays therefore you can't see what the players typed?

When I lose a game I just go "gg" then Alt+q+q as fast as possible and get on with the next game.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
August 21 2008 19:17 GMT
#257
No, he didnt say gg, and draco found that to be bm.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 19:36:54
August 21 2008 19:24 GMT
#258
it's amazing how many people don't bother to read the discussions in the thread and then make an aggressively toned post.

anyways seeing as there's nothing new to bring to this topic and people are just repeating (or ignoring) the same arguments, i'll just +1 the view that i agree with.

i don't think it's important to say gg in random pub games. seeing as many analogies have been used in this thread, here's mine: i think of random pub games the same way i think of "hook ups". you're here to hook up, i'm here to hook up, neither of us are looking for an emotional attachment, so let's just do the business and then go our separate ways. two consenting adults, no harm done, both parties get satisfaction.

but if i'm playing someone i know then i'll always do the ggaltqq. i think the argument here is resemblant of an argument that might occur over whether "hook ups" are ethical or whether the only way adults should come together is under the auspices of formal dating. my view on "hook ups" is the same as here, consenting adults should be allowed to choose whichever philosophy they want, it's no skin off my back.

but yeah, ggaltqq is a good idea if your playing someone you know or if it's in a formal setting

EDIT: like if i'm playing anybody from TL i'm definitely gg'ing
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
August 21 2008 20:01 GMT
#259
what are the disadvantages of saying gg?
1. typing 4 keys is such a pain
2. my pride hurts if I submit peacefully
3. WTF THAT N00B CHEEZED ME HE DOESNT DESERVE MY 2 LETTERZ

advantages?
1. keeps people happy slappy
2. stick with status quo! honestly who wants to be different
3. those 4 keys ups your apm! now i can go from 32 to 33! FUCK YEAH
4. gg doesnt have to mean good game after all, you can get creative

3-4 GG
more weight
NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
August 22 2008 01:36 GMT
#260
as good manners, i think the loser should always type gg before leaving. not doing so is just rude. i play alotta games where i get pissed i lost esp if i was winning a lot and then just let it slip but i still always say gg before leaving. its just common courtesy.

whats even worse is when the winner says gg first its like lol... way to be a dick.
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