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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 11:57:25
March 06 2008 11:41 GMT
#61
Ok so obviously zerg's highest DPS unit is a crackling, but what are the highest DPS units for T and P? Those are probably key to this.

Tank+Dropship seems pretty high since they are very mobile, so maybe reaver/sair is good for toss strat? (I really suck at using this strat, someone wanna try it?)

edit- Stimmed rines are the highest DPS actually, now that I think of it, but can they be used late game?

editx2- Does anyone even know the DPS of every unit? Where can I find this info?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1081 Posts
March 06 2008 13:27 GMT
#62
Blizzard BGH vs 7 random computers. Time: 28:06

I play as protoss and mass Carriers.

Replay: http://download.yousendit.com/BB174CCF5371C482

mostly harmless
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
March 06 2008 14:00 GMT
#63
On March 06 2008 18:52 Meh wrote:
Not hard on BGH, as long as one or more of the computers dont lingrush you. Do it on vanilla Hunters and I'll be impressed.


QFT
Beating 7 comps on BGH is way too easy. Only low money is real skill.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 06 2008 14:06 GMT
#64
On March 06 2008 22:27 parkin wrote:
Blizzard BGH vs 7 random computers. Time: 28:06

I play as protoss and mass Carriers.

Replay: http://download.yousendit.com/BB174CCF5371C482



the record was set to 25 a long while ago..
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1081 Posts
March 06 2008 14:07 GMT
#65
On March 06 2008 23:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 22:27 parkin wrote:
Blizzard BGH vs 7 random computers. Time: 28:06

I play as protoss and mass Carriers.

Replay: http://download.yousendit.com/BB174CCF5371C482



the record was set to 25 a long while ago..


I just wanted to post my results anyhow I may give it another try later^^
mostly harmless
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 15:36:48
March 06 2008 15:29 GMT
#66
Zerg vs 7 random
27:05
sunken wall/guardians+mass lings
http://download.yousendit.com/AD1AF2DD6476F4A3

pretty boring rep though -__- not much actions like my previous rep. air units are pretty imba
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
March 06 2008 15:31 GMT
#67
On March 06 2008 23:00 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 18:52 Meh wrote:
Not hard on BGH, as long as one or more of the computers dont lingrush you. Do it on vanilla Hunters and I'll be impressed.


QFT
Beating 7 comps on BGH is way too easy. Only low money is real skill.


ya do this on hunters and time that that is way harder
the REAL ReSpOnSe
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
March 06 2008 15:38 GMT
#68
the challenge should be on The Hunters
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
March 06 2008 16:38 GMT
#69
Use Raynor 2.0 AI from the AI project ^^ Much harder and fun :D Normal comps only attack one time in the beginning and after that they suck :p
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
March 06 2008 17:03 GMT
#70
What happened to your unit portrait????
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
Zherak
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Norway256 Posts
March 06 2008 17:03 GMT
#71
4pool AI is gay.
The bowsprit got mixed with the rudder sometimes...
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 06 2008 17:04 GMT
#72
On March 06 2008 18:59 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 18:47 waterdragon wrote:
two ways i thought to do this, but one of them requires nothing less than a pro-

m/m/f rush... your first 3 rines can probably take out any comp with proper micro, then your first control takes out the next comp, then at 2 controls with 400+ apm you take out the next 2-3 comps, and you win in about 10 min. Tough/impossible for me at 130-150, but for a pro...piece of cake >.>



bunker rush is the other one- 1 rine and 2 scv's at each main, proxy rax in the center. It's technically easier than m/m/f rush,and takes a lot less apm.... and the computer deals with bunker rushes really really poorly.

bbs into bunker rush should also work...might try the third if i find time tonight. too bad you can't build on the zerg creep though, which means that either a) you need micro or b) just rush all the toss's and t's. I think with a bbs your econ might not be strong enough to actually build bunkers with it. might need to go bsb, or if you're only planning to go with 1 rine in each bunker, then bs into a semi normal build.

uhmm LOL
bbs/bs bunker rush vs SEVEN computers?
are you craaaaazy

I honestly dont think you have ever played a 1v7 on BGH. There are literally millions of hydras, lings, zealots, marines/meds. I doubt your first 3 marines will take out a computer anyway (wtf) because they send all their workers to chase after them. Your first group wont be able to do shit vs like 50 zealots either coming to help or countering you.

[what I am saying is I don't even think a pro would be able to beat 1v7 BGH with this awful strategy]

about the bunker rush..1 rine and 2 scv at each main, proxy rax in the center. so you have to send out 14 scvs and 7 marines total? you must be nuts. I don't understand how you can come up with these ridic ideas with a not too shabby apm of 130-150 hahaha

Although I agree this is impossible, the AI does NOT send all of it's workers if you attack with marines early. They only do this if you attack their workers or units with your own workers.

However, I can only beat 3 PC's right now, so I need some work IRregardless.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
March 06 2008 17:16 GMT
#73
This is incredibly position-dependent on BGH. 6:00 is the best spot for sunk/creep walls imho but it's still jewishly tough
Memory lane in nice
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
March 06 2008 18:38 GMT
#74
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2luej6

Tv7Z at 25:58, straight up mm/tanks/vessels play. I thought it would be harder, honestly. I didn't even try hard. Should be possible to get it done at way less time with careful macro/multitasking.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
March 06 2008 18:42 GMT
#75
On March 06 2008 20:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Ok so obviously zerg's highest DPS unit is a crackling, but what are the highest DPS units for T and P? Those are probably key to this.

Tank+Dropship seems pretty high since they are very mobile, so maybe reaver/sair is good for toss strat? (I really suck at using this strat, someone wanna try it?)

edit- Stimmed rines are the highest DPS actually, now that I think of it, but can they be used late game?

editx2- Does anyone even know the DPS of every unit? Where can I find this info?


Ehh, there was a program called Arsenal III that was used for mods that had unit attack rate info, IIRC, no idea if it still exists.

I'll attempt Reaver/Sair, I honestly don't like playing in that manner. I think the best bet Protoss has in beating the computers is with Zealots since they're very mobile, cheap, and they attack pretty fast. However, compared to like 30 Reavers, I'm not so sure ... -_-
^-^
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 19:02:48
March 06 2008 19:02 GMT
#76
Just won it for 17.52 with protoss.
Replay : http://download.yousendit.com/2AB04D0A28316DDC
Zherak
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Norway256 Posts
March 06 2008 19:05 GMT
#77
That's a fucking PvT on Blue Storm?
The bowsprit got mixed with the rudder sometimes...
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 19:17:59
March 06 2008 19:15 GMT
#78
On March 07 2008 04:02 mdb wrote:
Just won it for 17.52 with protoss.
Replay : http://download.yousendit.com/2AB04D0A28316DDC


CHEATER !! how did you get bisu to play this?
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sick reaver micro at 14:03, suggest to view rep at slowest speed
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 06 2008 20:25 GMT
#79
12 position on BGH is, I think, the best for Zerg. You can block the choke completely with a hatchery, put up a few sunkens, and tech to lurker. Kill off 11 with a doom drop and the rest is history.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
March 06 2008 22:51 GMT
#80
I just did Pv7Rs and I'm absolutely terrible at starcraft. I started at 12, cannon walled the choke coming into 11 and 12, and teched to carriers. I was up against a cartoonishly weak field of computers though. One of my cannons prevented the Protoss at 11 from expanding at the natural and it threw him into a loop of trying to expand so he became useless. The dud Zerg at 6 was of course useless with his single hatchery. I pretty much right clicked 2 DTs into the main at 3 and that killed off a Terran. Once I was teched to carriers one Protoss went exclusively corsair scout in groups of like 2 to 3 so he was useless. The remaining Terran would occasionally send groups of like 12 marines to my cannon wall and that was about it. The only computers that actually put up any bit of a fight was one Zerg who kept trying to hydra break my cannons, and the other Protoss who consistently stormed my carriers, but really 24 carriers was too many. And yet it still took me 30+ minutes . This is why I spend more time watching SC then playing it I guess.
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