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On March 18 2024 21:57 GiantAxe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 17:02 MeSaber wrote:On March 18 2024 06:06 GiantAxe wrote:On March 18 2024 02:32 MeSaber wrote:On March 17 2024 22:27 GiantAxe wrote:On March 15 2024 03:03 MeSaber wrote:On March 15 2024 00:54 GiantAxe wrote:
It is enough to see how it goes around or does not go to drop an army on the protected bases to draw the right conclusions.
The first time he dawned on me, I had placed 2 cannons on his base side and he still let my tanks go. Then I looked at the record - he went all over the map, risking being seen, to deliver the tanks in the back. And for all this, there is never a scanner before.
If one sees on the transcript, the direction he set the transport ship, one will immediately understand that this child obviously knows the location of a drop point, on a dark map.
Next game, I made a mutalisk, against a drop, he then, again without revealing, attacked me with a bunch of goliaths - directly into my base. Can you upload the replay? I can analyze it. The game when I was total sure he used maphack is on 20240224, replay is saved on my computer with name "220504, (8)Big Game Hunters.rep" The game finished at 22:05 om 24.02.2024 Drop which he made on my base, started about 7 mins and 40 second after game start. Sorry, but I'am not so sure haw to upload replay. If you send me a email, will send to you. Me did this comments, because this dude is really very bad with unit control, knowledge of this team game, team play, almost always laggs, and at the same time, it is with a giant selfishness, that his contribution to the game is the most important, that he is the "most dangerous" opponent, and not only that, but by cheating he accumulates points that have absolutely no coverage with his game. At the same time, watching us, what units we produce, he does not spend unnecessary defense. I newer seen him to make comsat ot observer. Please look at his games bit by bit and you will see the obvious that I have just listed for you! Upload to repmastered and link. Ok, I will try it: https://repmastered.app/game/TAj2csPsHKYapEOLsJE-UZNNpHrWR3uGR8W6Hn--lNgrepmastered.appIs it work? Dont find any sign of cheating. Looks legit. Ok! Once that's your decision the boy will continue to ruin games in this bot. A player who rushes to cut off the opponents minerals and is at 11 o'clock would drop the ship directly down the finish line, through his teammate's base at 9 o'clock and go directly to the tank placement. He did the same with the other opponents, but not with me at 7 minutes and 40 seconds. Moreover, if you look at his vision alone, you will see that for the 2 cannons he has no legitimate way of knowing them. Instead, he goes around the center, to get around them, sort of spiraling to get to where the tanks can be placed. Since watching your replay was not enough, I have downloaded screenshots, and on the first and the last one, on the minimap, I have also drawn his exact trajectory. But got problems with upload pictures. Placed it there: https://ibb.co/M9qYQ12https://ibb.co/PWJqWc1https://ibb.co/vk3FxJWhttps://ibb.co/tbMTN3Nhttps://ibb.co/tsYYQpqIn case you don't take that as proof enough, players like him will continue to ruin games. It's not pleasant either to play in a team with him or against him. You can ask other good and experienced players for their opinion. I have been told that they also avoid it. What I could - I did. Nice day!
One more thing to tell you as cliff drop pro.
Even though I send the dropship from top to bottom(of course moving along the edge and if ship is fully accelerated), that dropship alives against that your stupid 2 canon placement at 7.
If you don't agree, try it by yourself.
So, regardless of any direction I choose, under your stupid canon placements at 7, my dropship never dies.
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On March 18 2024 22:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
tbh that really isn't that unreasonable of a trajectory, because players at 7 will tend to have built shit on top of their base more than on the right side of their base. Going in from the bottom right side is likely to have p detect the drop at a later point than if you're going straight from the top, and it's much less likely to be intercepted by goons (and if he hadn't scouted you I guess there was also no way he could know whether you had goons).
I'm not saying the guy is not hacking tbh, just that one game is hardly ever conclusive. One game can be luck, you need multiple instances to establish a trend.
I can't believe this comment. After all, sorry for the wasted time.
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On March 19 2024 02:07 GiantAxe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 22:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
tbh that really isn't that unreasonable of a trajectory, because players at 7 will tend to have built shit on top of their base more than on the right side of their base. Going in from the bottom right side is likely to have p detect the drop at a later point than if you're going straight from the top, and it's much less likely to be intercepted by goons (and if he hadn't scouted you I guess there was also no way he could know whether you had goons).
I'm not saying the guy is not hacking tbh, just that one game is hardly ever conclusive. One game can be luck, you need multiple instances to establish a trend. I can't believe this comment. After all, sorry for the wasted time.
the same conclusion for me too, so I`ll start with new tactic - I`ll play every game just like him and if we all start to do the same I can guarantee u after one month nobody will play in the bot games anymore ...
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I'm thinking to deny this wretch, whether to draw a maphack ... And then like him I'll make spiral drops, between the cannons, in a base where I haven't even revealed a single building.
The only thing stopping me, is that it will make me the same as him...
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Nope, it is not a reason for a ban.
Admin declared, attacking ally building in his base is not reason for ban.
So kakkione shouldn't be banned.
I was 9 protoss in this game, you were 3 protoss.
From the start, you were trolling and you deserve to have early death.
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Hey admin I`ll let you to decide if barcode has maphack or not. please look at this replay especially at min 29-41-44-50 all the drops were pure luck. look at the gosuninja as well he made drops but none was in luck.
I`ll let the replay for everyone to watch it and what they think ...barcode using or not maphack
https://repmastered.app/game/oXhqzXEXUIQWCNV07AIrlLquHkVLOw2_xCZL1TS5WDA
for proper judgement use only what he sees (he plays blindly). look at his APM. he never loses any drop, how come?
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On March 19 2024 12:05 Matias_SC wrote:Hey admin I`ll let you to decide if barcode has maphack or not. please look at this replay especially at min 29-41-44-50 all the drops were pure luck. look at the gosuninja as well he made drops but none was in luck. I`ll let the replay for everyone to watch it and what they think ...barcode using or not maphack https://repmastered.app/game/oXhqzXEXUIQWCNV07AIrlLquHkVLOw2_xCZL1TS5WDAfor proper judgement use only what he sees (he plays blindly). look at his APM. he never loses any drop, how come?
Here is another loser’s crying from Saxby 😂
You guys were not making proper defending tower, nor controlling air whole map, and blame for what??
You guys are just noobs, as you see replay, there were many chances for you to kill me(your protoss ally could kill me by goons, and also you could kill me by lurkers), but none of you noobs did not enter to attack and lost as a result.
Stupid assholes now start to blame me for “hack”😂
You guys are so mean, now starts to insist stupid reasons to ban me. Bring the clear facts “at which part, what is suspicious for hack”, don’t just throw replay with your dirty intention. Nobody is interested in seeing this 1 hour long replay to find which part I am suspicious for hack.
+ I saw replay, you guys are totally not controlling the air near my base so that I can go drops freely.
The only drop defense against me was few canons and scourges in the boarder of 1 and 3, but your scourges are waiting at stupid location. (replay at 54:10)
I checked it by scan and thought it is possible to make and went drops.
+ If I remember well, drops to 7 base, 5 base(2 times) were made after checking by scan, drops to 6 expa, 7 expa were made after checking by dropship paths(or other unit path), knowing that there were no canons. For all these drops, you guys were not controlling airs.
+ To drops to 12(your base) I didn't scan before dropping(this is to use scan energy when unloading for hidden lurks, and you will be able to see that I use scan when unloading at initial drop), but there were of course none of air obstacles, none of lurkers burrowed.
In later drops to 12, I saw 1 expa, 12 expa were taken by your allies, assuming that there were few canons, so I pass through between 12 expa and 1 expa.
+ At least, you(as zerg player) should have placed overlords in whole map to understand drops coming, but your stupid lords are all stacked and floating in meaningless regions for nothing. It means you were even totally not caring for my drops during the whole game, but later you thought game lost by drops, and blaming me as map hacker. Your thinking and behaviours are totally trash. Reason why you lost is because you are noob, not because I use map hack(that you insist).
So, from your side, tell me clearly which part is suspicious.
If you cannot say, it is nothing more than loser's crying.
Don't you feel shame to inisist this kind of stupid thing? You are insulting your own intelligence.
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@Exelero84, cant_win, Saxby
By the way, you know what?
You guys(mostly B, C, D rankers) are always super pissed about my dropping play, but S rankers(2pacalypse, akevke, ...) always encourage me to go drops rather than normal plays. Also another S ranker(jelly) comprehended my cliff drop plays("seeing the good use of abusive way is fun"), even though he lost against my team.
So, about my drops and cliff drops, don't make complain to me, but to blizzard or bgh creator.
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On March 19 2024 09:56 Che cazzo wrote:Nope, it is not a reason for a ban. Admin declared, attacking ally building in his base is not reason for ban. So kakkione shouldn't be banned. I was 9 protoss in this game, you were 3 protoss. From the start, you were trolling and you deserve to have early death.
Trolling the game how - by playing just like u? this guy is insane ...
I`m not there to gather from his minerals and he denied that, I`m just trying to survive and watch the game till the end(which will be very soon cuse u r not playin again as usual). That is my last structure on the map and he eliminate me only because I warned him that I`ll make a report for intentional drop from the games. If that is allowed its good to know I`ll do the same from now on (in the next game u fly in my base with ur last barack!), also its good to know players who support that behavior so I can play the same way when there in my team, not only u. Let the fun begin ...
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On March 19 2024 18:23 exelero44 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2024 09:56 Che cazzo wrote:Nope, it is not a reason for a ban. Admin declared, attacking ally building in his base is not reason for ban. So kakkione shouldn't be banned. I was 9 protoss in this game, you were 3 protoss. From the start, you were trolling and you deserve to have early death. Trolling the game how - by playing just like u? this guy is insane ... I`m not there to gather from his minerals and he denied that, I`m just trying to survive and watch the game till the end(which will be very soon cuse u r not playin again as usual). That is my last structure on the map and he eliminate me only because I warned him that I`ll make a report for intentional drop from the games. If that is allowed its good to know I`ll do the same from now on (in the next game u fly in my base with ur last barack!), also its good to know players who support that behavior so I can play the same way when there in my team, not only u. Let the fun begin ...
No need to mention other things, or about me. Just talk about ban rules.
Admin said killing ally building in his own base is a not a reason for ban.
If you have objection, insist it to admin for rule change.
Nevertheless if the rule changes, cannot ban for previous action(of ally building killing in his base) by kakkione or somebody else, because now it is allowed.
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On March 19 2024 18:44 Che cazzo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2024 18:23 exelero44 wrote:On March 19 2024 09:56 Che cazzo wrote:Nope, it is not a reason for a ban. Admin declared, attacking ally building in his base is not reason for ban. So kakkione shouldn't be banned. I was 9 protoss in this game, you were 3 protoss. From the start, you were trolling and you deserve to have early death. Trolling the game how - by playing just like u? this guy is insane ... I`m not there to gather from his minerals and he denied that, I`m just trying to survive and watch the game till the end(which will be very soon cuse u r not playin again as usual). That is my last structure on the map and he eliminate me only because I warned him that I`ll make a report for intentional drop from the games. If that is allowed its good to know I`ll do the same from now on (in the next game u fly in my base with ur last barack!), also its good to know players who support that behavior so I can play the same way when there in my team, not only u. Let the fun begin ... No need to mention other things, or about me. Just talk about ban rules. Admin said killing ally building in his own base is a not a reason for ban. If you have objection, insist it to admin for rule change. Nevertheless if the rule changes, cannot ban for previous action(of ally building killing in his base) by kakkione or somebody else, because now it is allowed.
Nobody ask u for your interpretation of ban rules, are u kakkione lawyer?
I just need an answer from moderator is that allowed or not and to know what to do from now on ...
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On March 19 2024 12:05 Matias_SC wrote:Hey admin I`ll let you to decide if barcode has maphack or not. please look at this replay especially at min 29-41-44-50 all the drops were pure luck. look at the gosuninja as well he made drops but none was in luck. I`ll let the replay for everyone to watch it and what they think ...barcode using or not maphack https://repmastered.app/game/oXhqzXEXUIQWCNV07AIrlLquHkVLOw2_xCZL1TS5WDAfor proper judgement use only what he sees (he plays blindly). look at his APM. he never loses any drop, how come?
7:50 flies wrats straight into spores.
14:49 no idea the drop is coming.
20:00 flies dropships straight into cannons at 7.
29:00 scans were used and the drop looks very legit.
Cant find any hack sign whatsoever. And if there is hacks being used its very terribly used so it doesnt matter.
This game in itself was a noob-fest (sorry).
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On March 19 2024 21:38 MeSaber wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2024 12:05 Matias_SC wrote:Hey admin I`ll let you to decide if barcode has maphack or not. please look at this replay especially at min 29-41-44-50 all the drops were pure luck. look at the gosuninja as well he made drops but none was in luck. I`ll let the replay for everyone to watch it and what they think ...barcode using or not maphack https://repmastered.app/game/oXhqzXEXUIQWCNV07AIrlLquHkVLOw2_xCZL1TS5WDAfor proper judgement use only what he sees (he plays blindly). look at his APM. he never loses any drop, how come? 7:50 flies wrats straight into spores. 14:49 no idea the drop is coming. 20:00 flies dropships straight into cannons at 7. 29:00 scans were used and the drop looks very legit. Cant find any hack sign whatsoever. And if there is hacks being used its very terribly used so it doesnt matter. This game in itself was a noob-fest (sorry).
Salute for your justice👍
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On March 20 2024 00:21 Che cazzo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2024 21:38 MeSaber wrote:On March 19 2024 12:05 Matias_SC wrote:Hey admin I`ll let you to decide if barcode has maphack or not. please look at this replay especially at min 29-41-44-50 all the drops were pure luck. look at the gosuninja as well he made drops but none was in luck. I`ll let the replay for everyone to watch it and what they think ...barcode using or not maphack https://repmastered.app/game/oXhqzXEXUIQWCNV07AIrlLquHkVLOw2_xCZL1TS5WDAfor proper judgement use only what he sees (he plays blindly). look at his APM. he never loses any drop, how come? 7:50 flies wrats straight into spores. 14:49 no idea the drop is coming. 20:00 flies dropships straight into cannons at 7. 29:00 scans were used and the drop looks very legit. Cant find any hack sign whatsoever. And if there is hacks being used its very terribly used so it doesnt matter. This game in itself was a noob-fest (sorry). Salute for your justice👍
Kinda incredible they didnt manage to take you down. You were dead like 5 times xd
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On March 19 2024 21:38 MeSaber wrote:
This game in itself was a noob-fest (sorry).
100 apm low level players going on forums and calling each other noobs while claiming to be "pro" at certain things and accusing each other of hacking with 0 evidence and 0 ability to interpret the replays objectively, it's kinda heartwarming that in 20+ years nothing has changed.
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all those comments that say they saw the replay it is clearly they do not see the rep with only his vision! If you use only his vision maybe you will understand what I'm trying to say. in the normal replay, he played blindly he did not scout before the drop(obviously if you have a maphack you don't need that). For that minutes that I already specified look at his dropship trajectory, especially at the toss of 1 he did not scout and he went right under the carriers with goliaths and carriers have no interceptors, I'm wondering how come? obviously 2 canons and a lot of carriers without interceptors it is a free kill at over 1 ctrl of goliaths. now when he made the final drop to 12 again look at his trajectory of the dropship he goes straight between scouts and canons and look at his APM at that moment, when you control the dropships and see scouts you use a lot of clicks to control as a result have to be higher apm but he don't!
CONCLUSION: he never scout before the drop or the path! (look at the rep only with his vision and you will understand)
his apm when he sends the dropships is lower and in normal situations when you play blindly you have to control your dropships so you use a lot of right-click which means a higher apm!!! but he hasn't!
he admitted we can kill him a lot of times but we don't, now think about it. if he sees the maps and army and he is not in danger of being attacked obviously he is not worried but when we do attack him he knows and he puts his army. again, look at the rep only with his vision to fully understand!!!
look at his base when he loads his dropships and then the trajectory and tell me if it looks legit!
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On March 20 2024 09:26 Matias_SC wrote:
all those comments that say they saw the replay it is clearly they do not see the rep with only his vision! If you use only his vision maybe you will understand what I'm trying to say. in the normal replay, he played blindly he did not scout before the drop(obviously if you have a maphack you don't need that). For that minutes that I already specified look at his dropship trajectory, especially at the toss of 1 he did not scout and he went right under the carriers with goliaths and carriers have no interceptors, I'm wondering how come? obviously 2 canons and a lot of carriers without interceptors it is a free kill at over 1 ctrl of goliaths. now when he made the final drop to 12 again look at his trajectory of the dropship he goes straight between scouts and canons and look at his APM at that moment, when you control the dropships and see scouts you use a lot of clicks to control as a result have to be higher apm but he don't!
CONCLUSION: he never scout before the drop or the path! (look at the rep only with his vision and you will understand)
his apm when he sends the dropships is lower and in normal situations when you play blindly you have to control your dropships so you use a lot of right-click which means a higher apm!!! but he hasn't!
he admitted we can kill him a lot of times but we don't, now think about it. if he sees the maps and army and he is not in danger of being attacked obviously he is not worried but when we do attack him he knows and he puts his army. again, look at the rep only with his vision to fully understand!!!
look at his base when he loads his dropships and then the trajectory and tell me if it looks legit!
Several people already witnessed that there are no any evidence of map hack?
Just tell me the truth, you just need a fake fact to ban me and making stupid events about me intentionally and continuously.
You are really stupid and I understand what kind of human being you are.
How pity people around you who have to talk with the guy who believes his world is truth and everything.
In Japanese language, there is a famous saying: "Telling lie hundred times, it shall become the truth."
You are just keep repeating stupid and childish lies all the time about me, to get your desired "truth"(banning me).
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On March 20 2024 09:26 Matias_SC wrote:
all those comments that say they saw the replay it is clearly they do not see the rep with only his vision! If you use only his vision maybe you will understand what I'm trying to say. in the normal replay, he played blindly he did not scout before the drop(obviously if you have a maphack you don't need that). For that minutes that I already specified look at his dropship trajectory, especially at the toss of 1 he did not scout and he went right under the carriers with goliaths and carriers have no interceptors, I'm wondering how come? obviously 2 canons and a lot of carriers without interceptors it is a free kill at over 1 ctrl of goliaths. now when he made the final drop to 12 again look at his trajectory of the dropship he goes straight between scouts and canons and look at his APM at that moment, when you control the dropships and see scouts you use a lot of clicks to control as a result have to be higher apm but he don't!
CONCLUSION: he never scout before the drop or the path! (look at the rep only with his vision and you will understand)
his apm when he sends the dropships is lower and in normal situations when you play blindly you have to control your dropships so you use a lot of right-click which means a higher apm!!! but he hasn't!
he admitted we can kill him a lot of times but we don't, now think about it. if he sees the maps and army and he is not in danger of being attacked obviously he is not worried but when we do attack him he knows and he puts his army. again, look at the rep only with his vision to fully understand!!!
look at his base when he loads his dropships and then the trajectory and tell me if it looks legit!
I dont see anywhere where i would have done it differently with a non-hacker mind. Most what he did up to 29:00 where i stopped watching was very standard stuff.
I didnt watch beyond 29:00 because the game really should have ended before minute 15.
Analyze the replay what you did wrong and apply that to next game, then you can win before the 'hacks' begin.
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@dead-retard
Could you make the game hosting more dynamic? This is not really good having 3 empty games constantly restarting (kicking ppl out). Better to just have one game hosted and when that game starts you launch another one. This is more dynamic and better to get games going and it shouldnt be many lines of codes to fix.
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