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Blue post on the matter: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 04 2017 01:43 GMT
#81
Good that they clarified it and fixed the inconsistency on the main page.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 04 2017 01:50 GMT
#82
On July 04 2017 10:05 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Welp here is the official blue post on Matchmaking & Ladder being confirmed exclusive to Remastered: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677

Nice to see them address the matter. Though I would've liked the ladder being available for original starcraft, I have to agree with their reasoning.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 04 2017 01:55 GMT
#83
What reasoning? They literally said nothing besides confirming that there won't be matchmaking in the free version, in a very verbose manner.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 02:09:26
July 04 2017 02:07 GMT
#84
I'm okay with this. When you give people matchmaking for free it incentivizes hacking. If you get banned for hacking you just make a new account, change your IP and play again. No thanks.

I do think they should add a ladder to the legacy client as a freemium feature. You can spend $10 and get access to the ladder, and matchmaking, but you can still play with your friends or in custom games for free.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 04 2017 02:12 GMT
#85
On July 04 2017 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What reasoning? They literally said nothing besides confirming that there won't be matchmaking in the free version, in a very verbose manner.

He at least said that it will limit griefing of new and low-level players
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Piratezerg
Profile Joined January 2017
54 Posts
July 04 2017 02:22 GMT
#86
On July 04 2017 11:07 Meta wrote:
I'm okay with this. When you give people matchmaking for free it incentivizes hacking. If you get banned for hacking you just make a new account, change your IP and play again. No thanks.

I do think they should add a ladder to the legacy client as a freemium feature. You can spend $10 and get access to the ladder, and matchmaking, but you can still play with your friends or in custom games for free.


Yeah given that reasoning, I am thrilled it isn't free.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
July 04 2017 02:29 GMT
#87
On July 04 2017 05:06 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 04:46 Pr0wler wrote:
On July 04 2017 03:54 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread.

If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included:
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As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder.

Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as such.







Why ? Because you said so ?

No point in complaining about a product. Just vote with your wallet. The best players will stay on Fish anyways, so this matchmaking ladder will be irrelevant.

No because the OP made no mention of the price, the OP talked about Blizzard reneging on what they said about MMing being free. If you don't think the OP is what should be discussed, then maybe you should not participate in the thread?

Giving feedback on a product is the only way for Blizzard to know what they are doing right or wrong. Voting with your wallet works, but leaves the reasons for why you voted completely up to the interpretation of the seller when they do not have feedback to why you voted the way you did. What the best players will do and what Fish ultimately decides to do is all speculation at this point.

First blizzard "should" advertise their product in certain way, then I should not prarticipate in the thread... All because you said so. What a boss.

"Why is this not free, after you said 3 months ago that it will be free, but now you are saying it will not be free ?" is not a good feedback.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
July 04 2017 03:05 GMT
#88
On July 04 2017 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What reasoning? They literally said nothing besides confirming that there won't be matchmaking in the free version, in a very verbose manner.


Lol, I fully agree with your statement, they, for real said nothing but people are glad that they issued the matter. It is like living in another dimension of reasoning.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
July 04 2017 04:23 GMT
#89
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677

this is their explanation
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Crispy-G
Profile Joined July 2017
3 Posts
July 04 2017 04:37 GMT
#90
On July 04 2017 13:23 TT1 wrote:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677

this is their explanation


thats is not an explanation, They only say what they are going to do
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 04 2017 04:44 GMT
#91
On July 04 2017 13:37 Crispy-G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 13:23 TT1 wrote:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677

this is their explanation


thats is not an explanation, They only say what they are going to do

We believe this is the best way to preserve the integrity of the play experience. We want to encourage a healthy, competitive ecosystem for StarCraft, and this measure will limit griefing of new and lower-level players.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 04 2017 04:57 GMT
#92
oh come on. $15 is practically free. i am glad it's not completely free. less smurfs and hackers.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 04 2017 05:03 GMT
#93
On July 04 2017 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What reasoning? They literally said nothing besides confirming that there won't be matchmaking in the free version, in a very verbose manner.


On July 04 2017 13:44 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 13:37 Crispy-G wrote:
On July 04 2017 13:23 TT1 wrote:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677

this is their explanation


thats is not an explanation, They only say what they are going to do

Show nested quote +
We believe this is the best way to preserve the integrity of the play experience. We want to encourage a healthy, competitive ecosystem for StarCraft, and this measure will limit griefing of new and lower-level players.

May not be the most detailed reason but it is one regardless. We've also had some posts such as the one L_Master made that made a solid case for remastered-only matchmaking.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50633 Posts
July 04 2017 05:09 GMT
#94
theres always fish for some old style laddering since fish isn't interested in having automated match making.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 05:12:53
July 04 2017 05:12 GMT
#95
I think making matchmaking cost money is the better of the two choices no doubt.

Iccup has a huge problem of people just making new accounts once people reach B~ because it can take long to find games. So you end up facing many people who are in reality a lot better, but just keep making new accounts.

If you're stuck to one account (unless you pay $15 more), this problem is heavily reduced. Not to mention, BW is easy to hack, and one account will make people respect it a lot more. More people respecting their ID is overall a good thing, and hence the entrance fee is good in my eyes... The key is to not turn off a large percentage of potential players because this feature is not free, but I don't think it will.

Good decision, I'm happy that we received an explanation. This will be the first foreign ladder system where the point system will be logical, very excited for it.
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nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 05:14:15
July 04 2017 05:12 GMT
#96
Things change during the development of the game, get over it. It's not like they took your money and then took a feature out of the game which was advertised.

I'm happy they'll implement MM system, I hope it's similar to SC2. I also hope those games are "server controlled" instead of p2p, to make only players with bad connection lag, instead of both players.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 04 2017 05:15 GMT
#97
On July 04 2017 14:12 nukkuj wrote:
Things change during the development of the game, get over it. It's not like they took your money and then took a feature out of the game which was advertised.

I'm happy they'll implement MM system, I hope it's similar to SC2


I only hope we don't have the bonus pool system.

It's the most bullshit artificial way of motivating people to play more games, and giving a sense of improvement that isn't there.

Just a classic Dota, Chess, or Fish type point system will be the best. And points won + points lost = 0
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
July 04 2017 05:31 GMT
#98
On July 04 2017 14:12 nukkuj wrote:
Things change during the development of the game, get over it.

what fucking development, mate?
Michael Probu
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 06:26:20
July 04 2017 06:24 GMT
#99
On July 04 2017 14:31 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 14:12 nukkuj wrote:
Things change during the development of the game, get over it.

what fucking development, mate?

Obviously the new graphics and sounds fell from the heavens and Mike Morhaime just collected them.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 06:34:11
July 04 2017 06:33 GMT
#100
On June 30 2017 18:06 raff100 wrote:
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On June 30 2017 18:05 739 wrote:
This is not thread-worthy.

Also even if the matchmaking is going to be paid only , I feel like I owe Blizzard these 15$ for a game that I've been playing for more than 10 years and not being charged for anything in the past.

Stop whining. The game hasn't even been released yet and I see so many ppl complaining.


Stop whining what? They've announced it would be free for 3 months and ,when they announce they release,they force you to pay 15 $ for a simple matchmaking feature.


You know that games aren't free to make no ? Do you want micro transaction in BW ? What's 15$ to you if you played BW for 12 years ?
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