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TLADT24920 Posts
On June 30 2017 19:50 Ansibled wrote:
So what was actually said was
'You're correct in assuming that matchmaking will not be included as part of 1.18. It is currently slated to be available to everyone once we release SC:R'
This is not announcing it would be free for everyone.
Pretty much. Given, I would like it if RM was free for non-rm players but several members have explained the issues with that and why having it only in the remaster is a must.
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On July 02 2017 04:28 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 19:50 Ansibled wrote:
So what was actually said was
'You're correct in assuming that matchmaking will not be included as part of 1.18. It is currently slated to be available to everyone once we release SC:R'
This is not announcing it would be free for everyone. Pretty much. Given, I would like it if RM was free for non-rm players but several members have explained the issues with that and why having it only in the remaster is a must.
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On June 30 2017 18:05 raff100 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 18:03 Ty2 wrote:
"Everyone" seems kind of vague. A scoularis guy who doesn't seem to be a credible source seems to go along with that assumption. "Play for free with improved matchmaking and accessibility, or upgrade to Starcraft Remastered to unlock 4k graphics,16x9 aspect ratio and more " cit starcraft.com Is this a decent source?
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bigfan why would it be a must that MM is only with remaster? I can only see the multi acc problem like good players playing at low ratings but anyway, they can always do that by buying more accounts so.. and it can be fixed by making remastered accounts work to login in original
it aleviates it that you have to buy a new account, and I wouldnt say I find it unfair at all to pay again for all the maintenance and update
then I see no reason for no MM in original, everything is compatible including the chat, just plug the MM button / interfaces in there on original interface, greyed out if you're not logged on a RemasteredAcc gg everybody happy
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I feel bad for all those people who bought Brood War with 1.18 just for the matchmaking
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On July 02 2017 08:12 Heyjoray wrote:
I feel bad for all those people who bought Brood War with 1.18 just for the matchmaking
Yep. They all threw away $0 on a free-to-play product for a speculative feature.
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On July 02 2017 08:12 Heyjoray wrote:
I feel bad for all those people who bought Brood War with 1.18 just for the matchmaking
It is free so no one did that.
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it just feels unfortunate if everything is in place for original to be compatible with remastered but you cant do ladder games between them but mb it doesnt matter and nobody who wants to play ladder will want to use original? unknown until everyone has tried remastered I guess
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On July 02 2017 08:24 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2017 08:12 Heyjoray wrote:
I feel bad for all those people who bought Brood War with 1.18 just for the matchmaking Yep. They all threw away $0 on a free-to-play product for a speculative feature.
Ive bought Starcraft like 5 times and id gladly do it again if i had to. But yeah 1.18 was free
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1st teh price isnt high its like 15 bucks ... lol
2nd its a protection that not all cheaterstupidaccs come in matchmaking since u have to link ur account and have paid money
i like it
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On July 02 2017 04:59 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
bigfan why would it be a must that MM is only with remaster? I can only see the multi acc problem like good players playing at low ratings but anyway, they can always do that by buying more accounts so.. and it can be fixed by making remastered accounts work to login in original
it aleviates it that you have to buy a new account, and I wouldnt say I find it unfair at all to pay again for all the maintenance and update
then I see no reason for no MM in original, everything is compatible including the chat, just plug the MM button / interfaces in there on original interface, greyed out if you're not logged on a RemasteredAcc gg everybody happy
What do you think is easier paying how much money for multiple accounts just to smurf or quit make a new account everytime you reach certain mmr, Its to deter cheaters not to "stop" them
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Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread.
If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included:
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/qKvtzQc.png)
As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder.
Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as such.
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I am ok with paying 15$ but it will hold a lot of my friends to play with me 
and I guess community will be smaller.
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Really dumb move to split the community like this.
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On July 04 2017 03:54 DarkNetHunter wrote:Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread. If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included: As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder. Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as such.
Why ? Because you said so ?
No point in complaining about a product. Just vote with your wallet. The best players will stay on Fish anyways, so this matchmaking ladder will be irrelevant.
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On July 04 2017 04:46 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2017 03:54 DarkNetHunter wrote:Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread. If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included: As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder. Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as such. Why ? Because you said so ? No point in complaining about a product. Just vote with your wallet. The best players will stay on Fish anyways, so this matchmaking ladder will be irrelevant.
No because the OP made no mention of the price, the OP talked about Blizzard reneging on what they said about MMing being free. If you don't think the OP is what should be discussed, then maybe you should not participate in the thread?
Giving feedback on a product is the only way for Blizzard to know what they are doing right or wrong. Voting with your wallet works, but leaves the reasons for why you voted completely up to the interpretation of the seller when they do not have feedback to why you voted the way you did. What the best players will do and what Fish ultimately decides to do is all speculation at this point.
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On July 04 2017 03:54 DarkNetHunter wrote:Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread. If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included: As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder. Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as suc
What I find odd is that the blurb about "play for free with improved matchmaking" was added when the product comparison chart was added. WaybackMachine doesn't show it before then. If I'm not mistaken, the only previous mention of free matchmaking was the official forum post, which could be interpreted either way.
Hmmm
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On July 04 2017 03:54 DarkNetHunter wrote:Firstly, I think the OP made a valid point and I can't believe the amount of 'stop whining' posts coming out of this thread. If SC:R had been tagged at 75$ would you still be telling people to stop whining? The price tag is irrelevant for the discussion because it should not give Blizzard leeway on going back on their own statement, which the OP included: As for dealing with cheaters/smurfs, you can easily implement more stringent time spent online / hours played etc. requirements before being allowed to play on MM Ladder for free copies if you want to reduce smurfing on the ladder. Cheaters should have their PCs MAC-Address banned if technically feasible, thus preventing them from rejoining the ladder, paid or not. If this were an anti cheat/smurf measure it should be announced as such.
So the price tag is irrelevant, yet you're trying to prove your point with... a price tag of 75 bucks?
I hope you can see the irony in that statement, I've had a good chuckle over this! 
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United States10540 Posts
are you guys actually complaining this much about 15 dollars on a 20 year old game that has given us so much? dude who here cant actually afford a 15 dollar game? like honestly. I expected 30 dollars and would have shelled out as much as 60 for the remastered. 15 is a huge steal. stop complaining.
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United States33678 Posts
Hmm, I guess infinite free accounts does have the potential to spiral out of control
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