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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
They had all those CDs and CD Keys to play. People who have approached to SC when crack versions are out, please change your mind. It's not big of a deal to spend $15 because it's like treating a person for nice dinner meal to keep a strong bond.. If you think that $15 is wasted, then I guess you are not interested to keep a strong bond with someone. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Now they are charging for ladder which was not part of the deal first time. It feels paying money for tons of stuff you are not going to use for single thing (ladder) which everyone thought (even blizzard hinted) it will be free. | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On June 30 2017 20:11 Wrath wrote: It is not about the god damned $15. It is about saying you pay only for graphics and then you are being charged for ladder. As for me, I'm not a fan of the new models and was not planning on updating. Was going to play with the standard version as there is nothing in the remaster appealing to spend money on. Now they are charging for ladder which was not part of the deal first time. It feels paying money for tons of stuff you are not going to use for single thing (ladder) which everyone thought (even blizzard hinted) it will be free. Where exactly did Blizzard announce that you are only paying for graphics? | ||
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On June 30 2017 20:11 Wrath wrote: It is not about the god damned $15. It is about saying you pay only for graphics and then you are being charged for ladder. As for me, I'm not a fan of the new models and was not planning on updating. Was going to play with the standard version as there is nothing in the remaster appealing to spend money on. Now they are charging for ladder which was not part of the deal first time. It feels paying money for tons of stuff you are not going to use for single thing (ladder) which everyone thought (even blizzard hinted) it will be free. Do you use a 4:3 monitor? | ||
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raff100
498 Posts
Or maybe he prefers the old graphics so he doesn't want to pay 15$ for things he won't use? I would buy the remastered anyway to support the Starcraft saga,but the fact that they are removing\not implementing the MM in the free version, despite their 3 months long promises, is really sad. Anyway it's not that unexpected, we are still talking about Activision Blizzard,not about the Blizzard that made the original SC | ||
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wallesM
Poland3 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On June 30 2017 21:56 raff100 wrote: Or maybe he prefers the old graphics so he doesn't want to pay 15$ for things he won't use? I would buy the remastered anyway to support the Starcraft saga,but the fact that they are removing\not implementing the MM in the free version, despite their 3 months long promises, is really sad. Anyway it's not that unexpected, we are still talking about Activision Blizzard,not about the Blizzard that made the original SC I was referring to the part where he said "there is nothing appealing in the remaster," which can only be true if he plays on a 4:3 monitor. Otherwise, there is at least one thing appealing in it. And yeah, all Blizz games were free before the acquisition /s On June 30 2017 22:12 wallesM wrote: It's simple - blizzard cares about the money so they want you to pay them for matchmaking. There's nothing more to it. There's next to zero evidence of that. It may be they're having trouble getting matchmaking to work with both clients and will release it later. But yes, they "care about money." Unfortunately, in the society we live in, even programmers who work for Blizzard are still charged for rent, gas, food, etc., and so need to be paid. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
If it is my opinions on it are this: 1) Yes, they should have updated or told us that they were going to make MM exclusive to the purchased product. That, I think, goes without saying. Mistake by Blizz/Devs there. 2) I support paid MM. Right now, you can just spam accounts all you want and troll hard, which is done enough can legitimately start to mess up the actual evaluation of skill and the MM itself. $15 isn't insane, but it's certainly going to stop all but some crazy rich guy determined to troll from buying 15 accounts and messing around. I can't think of any other way to prevent this, and this is a solid solution in my opinion. That in mind, I seriously hope they implement racial MMR, makes for a more accurate system and allows you to play with other races when you feel inclined. 3) Assuming paid MM is actually a correct assumption, even if #2 is their reasoning, they absolutely should have updated us. Not doing that is pretty damn bad in my opinion. 4) Unrelated, by why in god's name are people complaining about skins? o.O You can....wait for it.......turn them off! It has literally zero impact on you as a player. There are plenty of legitimate things to discuss, wasting breath on skins you'll never know exist seems ridiculous to me. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
We need to care about the actual game first, not these hair-splitting arguments. Custom hotkeys; there's a fucking issue worth discussing! | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6738 Posts
On June 30 2017 20:51 Ty2 wrote: I don't understand how someone can complain about having to pay for a service (a video game for entertainment, no less) that was going to be free like he's entitled. Isn't having a free service already only a positive and generous? Having it be no longer free doesn't detract. No one is forcing you to pay for the game that they make. The business is simple - they're the provider, people are the consumers. They make a game, and if people like it, they'll pay for it. Edit: Also, complaining over 15 dollars? Seriously? but the game is free.i dont get from where people really got that AMM will be for non remastered,from the begin it was clear to me that it will be only for remastered players. | ||
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ldv
United States103 Posts
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Scepty
22 Posts
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
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ldv
United States103 Posts
On July 01 2017 01:07 JungleTerrain wrote: This is easily fixed by either getting a job or skipping over a large super burrito for a day. this is what tickles me lol people complaining about $15 for a game most of them never bought in the first place probably should spend less time gaming and more time working on gainful employment... | ||
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JWD[9]
364 Posts
The few new players I met since 1.18 were people that tried the game because it was free. Ladder should be free, maybe at least for people who own other Blizzard games on their account. If someone new to broodwar falls in love with it, I think he is the more likely person to buy remastered because of the new graphics. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
On June 30 2017 22:43 L_Master wrote: Do we know MM isn't going to be included for 1.18 users? I realize there is that box, but can we confirm that's accurate? 2) I support paid MM. Right now, you can just spam accounts all you want and troll hard, which is done enough can legitimately start to mess up the actual evaluation of skill and the MM itself. $15 isn't insane, but it's certainly going to stop all but some crazy rich guy determined to troll from buying 15 accounts and messing around. I can't think of any other way to prevent this, and this is a solid solution in my opinion. This is the most important part. It's also a deterrent against cheaters. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 01 2017 01:14 JWD[9] wrote: It is obvious that the discussion about the cost should not be the point of this topic. I preordered remastered today (I think preorder came out today), however, there is a fear that there won't be many new players. The few new players I met since 1.18 were people that tried the game because it was free. Ladder should be free, maybe at least for people who own other Blizzard games on their account. If someone new to broodwar falls in love with it, I think he is the more likely person to buy remastered because of the new graphics. There will be an influx of new players, but a majority will quit pretty quickly (imo). Lots of people will have their nostalgia and buy the remastered just for that, they might play the campaign and do some custom games, some will do ladder, but I don't think BW will now be a super active game outside of Korea. Even if it was free I would say the same thing, it's a tough game and an old one, lots of people won't want to deal with that. I do hope this helps BW in Korea a lot. I would love it if some new blood started to play and actually get insanely good. | ||
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