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(Probably skins and voice packs) Why isn't Matchmaking free anymore? - Page 6
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Blue post on the matter: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20757485677 | ||
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LordOfDabu
United States394 Posts
(Probably skins and voice packs) | ||
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juvenal
2448 Posts
On July 04 2017 15:24 Pr0wler wrote: Obviously the new graphics and sounds fell from the heavens and Mike Morhaime just collected them. what has it got to do with ladder and matchmaking on the version that doesn't even use new graphics and sounds? They simply changed their mind after promising it would be free. Sure you can argue the wording and say advertising is not promising but whatever. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
I mean how can anyone get anything done without your expertise, that's the real mystery here.... | ||
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juvenal
2448 Posts
On July 04 2017 16:47 thePunGun wrote: You gotta love the internet! Where else can people, who have little to no knowledge about anything really bless us each day with their wisdom! Please enlighten us Juvenal, how did Blizzard accomplish anything without your magic touch and awareness for the important aspects of game development/matchmaking?! I mean how can anyone get anything done without your expertise, that's the real mystery here.... way to get triggered over me just stating facts. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On June 30 2017 18:10 raff100 wrote: And maybe some people don't care about graphics? So they need to spend 15 $ only for the button "find a game"? @Mildcocoa: Did they realize the p2p issue 3 months after the announcement? and that its GOOD its a cheater protection in matchmaking since u have a paywall and u can ban the account ! ps: juvenal ur facts are just bad, get better ones | ||
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stapla05
Australia67 Posts
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9547 Posts
To be fair, putting the ladder behind a paywall will have the similar effect and is the least amount of work, so I can't really blame Blizzard for doing it, but lets not pretend that their sole reason of doing it is out of the goodness of their hearts. | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1170 Posts
On July 01 2017 09:19 vndestiny wrote: Everyone who keeps parroting: "It's only 15$ stop complaining you entitled cheapskate" is missing the point. Blizzards made it seemed like matchmaking would be available with 1.18 (regardless of their initial intention) but that turned out not to be. Of course people dislike being false advertised to, purposely or not. Of course everyone ignores this. It's true though - people gotta keep game companies honest these days. Don't forget Diablo 3 and SC2's chat channels. Principles aside, I kinda agree with the paid matchmaking to deter cheaters and smurfs. But it should've been handled better. The BW crowd has already been burned by Blizzard enough. | ||
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Kadungon
41 Posts
On July 04 2017 15:33 FFW_Rude wrote: You know that games aren't free to make no ? Do you want micro transaction in BW ? What's 15$ to you if you played BW for 12 years ? It was completely free for Blizzard to ignore SC BW for 15 years, allowing SC BW to blossom (unlike SC2). Then, after 20 years of ignoring, they could just release the source code, which would be free for them to do, to the community. All completely free. | ||
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raff100
498 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On July 04 2017 19:44 raff100 wrote: I'm happy that Pete answered the question and eventually we know that there won't be any ladder for the free version of BW. However ,I'm still scared about how this decision will impact the future playerbase. Let's hope that everyone buys the remastered and fall in love with Broodwar or the playerbase will be even more split between iccup,fish and remastered... if they combine a lack of ladder synergy between 1.18 and remastered, "1 account per purchase," and the $15 price tag, i fully expect the remastered scene to be dead in like 2 months with everyone just playing on 1.16 or 1.18.. one of the biggest draws on bw in pcbangs is you can just roll up, pay for computer time, and sit down with your buds and make fresh accounts and go from there... this whole additional paywall instead of just a serial key goes against pcbang culture, although admittedly overwatch has been doing just fine. edit: in the end, the scene will go where the good players go just like what happened with fish. if fish's ladder has a higher level of competition giving the increased convenience of not having to have 1 account, then fish will win | ||
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raff100
498 Posts
I invited many friends to play Dota mainly because it was free ,but I don't think they are going to follow me this time  | ||
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Binominal
30 Posts
On July 04 2017 20:15 raff100 wrote: I honestly hoped in the free to play ladder because, even if every starcraft fan will buy the remastered, I have more than a suspect that the casual players will be quite scared to throw money away, even if it is "only" 15 $. I invited many friends to play Dota mainly because it was free ,but I don't think they are going to follow me this time I'd wager to say that they wouldn't have followed you even if it was free, SCBW has no appealing characteristics for the casual player. You can't shift the blame for sucking to teammates like in dota, it's not really a social experience either. It's incredibly hard mechanically and you have to get up to date with almost two decades of strategy and vods to understand the game properly. Though I must say Blizzard going back on their promise is scummy. | ||
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nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
On July 04 2017 14:15 FiWiFaKi wrote: I only hope we don't have the bonus pool system. It's the most bullshit artificial way of motivating people to play more games, and giving a sense of improvement that isn't there. Just a classic Dota, Chess, or Fish type point system will be the best. And points won + points lost = 0 Yea that's true. I was referring to hassle-free click a button to queue ladder type of thing.  I also liked how SC2 system could accurately get consistently same level opponents after ~50-100 games.Cosmetic ranks and leagues are pretty irrelevant to me nowadays. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 04 2017 19:13 Kadungon wrote: It was completely free for Blizzard to ignore SC BW for 15 years, allowing SC BW to blossom (unlike SC2). Then, after 20 years of ignoring, they could just release the source code, which would be free for them to do, to the community. All completely free. so ? i love what they did they also did it mainly for korea | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 04 2017 18:28 2Pacalypse- wrote: I can't believe no one has mentioned here that there are *other* (free for users) methods to curb the smurfers/hackers. For one, an actual anti-hack might help a bit. Requiring new users to play a certain amount of "unranked" games before being able to enter official ladder. Hell, as a last resort, you could do what Dota 2 did, which is to require you to link your phone number with an account. To be fair, putting the ladder behind a paywall will have the similar effect and is the least amount of work, so I can't really blame Blizzard for doing it, but lets not pretend that their sole reason of doing it is out of the goodness of their hearts. but they all get hacked sooner or later there is no working system and no i dont wanna link my phone to ANYTHING i would never do it | ||
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InDi
Spain90 Posts
Iccup, Fish, Shit even GG.net launched his terrible ladder. 1.18 brings nothing to the gameplay, I am not even commenting on the graphics because... let's be honest, who cares. No big updates to the interface, the only appeal is to matchmake against koreans, which you could do already... and they charge 15$ for it? It is just another shitty policy by Blizzard trying to get money (which ofc is their goal) based on their best game. And the fact that they were shady about this matchmaking being not free, it was just to kill any non-official ladders. Everyone got hyped moved to 1.18 and cu later iccup | ||
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CoL_BabyZerg
Canada17 Posts
On July 04 2017 21:16 InDi wrote: The thing is, why should I pay for something that has been implemented by the community several times during the last 10 years for free? Iccup, Fish, Shit even GG.net launched his terrible ladder. 1.18 brings nothing to the gameplay, I am not even commenting on the graphics because... let's be honest, who cares. No big updates to the interface, the only appeal is to matchmake against koreans, which you could do already... and they charge 15$ for it? It is just another shitty policy by Blizzard trying to get money (which ofc is their goal) based on their best game. And the fact that they were shady about this matchmaking being not free, it was just to kill any non-official ladders. Everyone got hyped moved to 1.18 and cu later iccup God forbid they want to make money for finally supporting their game, just go back to fish if u like old ladder end of arguement | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3517 Posts
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