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I was never a fan of such stuff and really disliked the bloated profile/achievement stuff in sc2. Actually I would have been happy with the old profile and additionally statistics like: - played race - played map - average apm - average gametime
Well at the end of the day i wont bother much with this but it could be nice for some old players and some new players expect such minigames (unlock avaters etc) like drug addicts nowadays
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On May 27 2017 15:35 TibbersCute wrote:+ Show Spoiler +LOL ok, I mean Blizzard has a pretty bad history with coming into starcraft and fucking shit up. Here I'm referring to the dev of SC2 while dismantling Kespa and professional BW circa 2010. Basically Blizzard used a lot of money to invest in getting Koreans to attempt a massive swap. They wanted to make money on Korea. They wouldn't even let LAN play happen because they wanted to make money in Korea. So greedy.
Blizzard also has a super bad habit of implementing complete shit and relying on community feedback to find solutions. This happens sort of in general; Blizzard won't fix something unless a ton of community backlash occurs. That's why they have Blizzard forums with tons of whiny posts. Edit: Some examples: SC2 balance was fuckin aweful, and still is. Bnet 2.0 was fuckin aweful, and for all I know it probably still is. Didn't even have chat channels when it launched? Like come on. That's some god aweful development. Like how do you screw something up people got right in the 90's when the internet was actually new? No LAN-play? This fucked up a bunch of tournament matches due to latency or drop problems. Took them FOREVER to implement the replay feature, where the game could start from a replay. This solved the drop-problems for tournaments. But it's still a fuckin band-aid solution. The hype is lost when a match is paused and reloaded. Also why didn't they actually implemented this replay feature in the beginning, and why did it take SO LONG to implement? "too hard to implement"? What a joke. Some random college student hacked together an example and posted here on teamliquid. Without the fucking source code of sc2. A college student. Then Blizzard finally took their fingers out their ass and got in the replay thing. But don't forget, this was all a problem because no LAN play, which is a retarded and greedy decision to begin with.
So now here we are, and the same kind of dev-process and disrespect of brood war can be seen in some of the SC:R development. It's natural to get pissy considering the longer history. It's a valid opinion to be annoyed at Blizzard touching Brood War.
Tibbers. If you had come out and said THAT instead of your dumb pseudo mystery inch/mile crap you would not be making such a fool of yourself. You called TT1 a lazy player and continued to insult one of the oldest and in some people's opinions one of the best foreign Protoss players in history with your disrespect. Your whole posting in JUST this thread makes you look extremely foolish. Just come out and say what you want to say up front and quit being a jerk.
THAT BEING SAID.
The whole gold/silver/bronze rankings falls in line with ALL their other games in terms of rankings. This is NOT new. Ranks E - S was devised by Koreans/Fish/Abyss and while it's what most of us BW players grew up with, we need to acknowledge that with the face lift to the game, B.Net is getting it as well. This is not a change that will break the game and I feel it is amazingly cool to see all the different stats. I would LOVE to get to know my gaming history better.
New profiles are cool. The improvements to this game are good although it's been abit rocky, they keep going in a good direction as opposed to what happened with Diablo/HOTS/SC2 and currently OverWatch (As in, they are fucking ruining those games for no god damn reason other than they have idiots running those games).
I'd say, they finally have ONE department doing something RIGHT for once. I wish they had gone with ShieldBattery as the platform but I can respect them wanting to use their own thing.
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On May 27 2017 15:35 TibbersCute wrote: LOL ok, I mean Blizzard has a pretty bad history with coming into starcraft and fucking shit up. Here I'm referring to the dev of SC2 while dismantling Kespa and professional BW circa 2010. Basically Blizzard used a lot of money to invest in getting Koreans to attempt a massive swap. They wanted to make money on Korea. They wouldn't even let LAN play happen because they wanted to make money in Korea. So greedy.
Blizzard also has a super bad habit of implementing complete shit and relying on community feedback to find solutions. This happens sort of in general; Blizzard won't fix something unless a ton of community backlash occurs. That's why they have Blizzard forums with tons of whiny posts. Edit: Some examples: SC2 balance was fuckin aweful, and still is. Bnet 2.0 was fuckin aweful, and for all I know it probably still is. Didn't even have chat channels when it launched? Like come on. That's some god aweful development. Like how do you screw something up people got right in the 90's when the internet was actually new?
So now here we are, and the same kind of dev-process and disrespect of brood war can be seen in some of the SC:R development. It's natural to get pissy considering the longer history. It's a valid opinion to be annoyed at Blizzard touching Brood War.
I can respect that point of view even tho it's an elitist view, i don't have anything against loyalist BW supporters who've invested a lot of time into the game and love it. Personally i'm not worried about them "fucking up the game" because they have to answer to Korea. They won't let them mess up the project, Blizzard has nothing to gain by doing so (they'd just destroy their reputation in Korea and lose a ton of supporters, it would just be a terrible business move).
Everything that the dev team has done and said so far leads me to think that SC:R is heading in the right path.. and like i said Korea isn't gonna let them mess this up. If they're not happy with the final product they'll just stick to 1.16 until Blizzard gets it right, it's as simple as that. 1.16 isn't going anywhere and Blizzard has too much invested into the project to have it fail.
That said, we're in a thread talking about the new profiles.. and well they look sweet . If you'd like them to implement F - S ranks thats fine too, i have no issue with that. I just wanted to understand your thought process because "ladder groupings" mean very little in reality.
Imo the only thing that really matters is your rank and rating, everything else is just useless fluff. Fish has ladder ranks to make it easier for people to ladder and rank up (they don't have a matchmaking system, it's manual ladder). Blizzard's ladder (matchmaking) is a completely different system and F - S ranks (even Bronze to GM) aren't really relevant/needed, like i said it's just fluff.
Anywho, glad we could clarify all that shiet ^_^
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On May 27 2017 15:56 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Tibbers. If you had come out and said THAT instead of your dumb pseudo mystery inch/mile crap you would not be making such a fool of yourself. You called TT1 a lazy player and continued to insult one of the oldest and in some people's opinions one of the best foreign Protoss players in history with your disrespect. Your whole posting in JUST this thread makes you look extremely foolish. Just come out and say what you want to say up front and quick being a jerk.
I've seen him play for over a decade. I know who he is, and I know he thinks he's lazy too. He told me himself the other day in Scan's twitch chat. Also yeah he's a totally good Protoss, but he also called my opinion dumb and illogical. The way you and him engage with me makes us all look foolish. I just wanted to chime in about the A-F rank thing, and now look where we are.
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You fired the first shots. And quit talking like you got history here. Post on your main, not your alt. Otherwise you have NONE in my eyes and no respect either. And don't group me in with YOUR foolishness.
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On May 27 2017 16:06 TibbersCute wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 15:56 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Tibbers. If you had come out and said THAT instead of your dumb pseudo mystery inch/mile crap you would not be making such a fool of yourself. You called TT1 a lazy player and continued to insult one of the oldest and in some people's opinions one of the best foreign Protoss players in history with your disrespect. Your whole posting in JUST this thread makes you look extremely foolish. Just come out and say what you want to say up front and quick being a jerk. I've seen him play for over a decade. I know who he is, and I know he thinks he's lazy too. He told me himself the other day in Scan's twitch chat. Also yeah he's a totally good Protoss, but he also called my opinion dumb and illogical. The way you and him engage with me makes us all look foolish. I just wanted to chime in about the A-F rank thing, and now look where we are.
to be fair i didnt know what your opinion was, you were being vague (give an inch, take a mile!.. in regards to what?!) and i just assumed you were talking about gameplay related stuff. all i wanted to know was why you want them to implement F to S ranks as opposed to Bronze to GM because that's honestly not a very big deal (i explained why in previous posts).
and most of the things i say on ppl's stream is me trying to avoid giving a direct answer, i dont really like answering questions when im on other ppl's stream. i dont really remember our conversation but if i said i was "lazy" it probably has to do with me streaming, which is true ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
only 3 more hours to kill before Shine vs Bisu starts.. :D
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On May 27 2017 16:10 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: You fired the first shots.
This was the first shot. It's making implications like what I'm saying is dumb, outlandish.
@TT1 All good, to be honest I was teasing you about lazy because I like your play and want to see more. Edit: Oh and about relaxing, eeeehhhh. I was pretty relaxed at original SC2 release, and wasted way too much time trying to play it like a real Brood War successor. Sometimes being skeptical is a good thing.
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why wasn't none of this added to sc2? looks great
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On May 27 2017 12:45 TT1 wrote:looks s i c k Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 12:07 TibbersCute wrote: Not ganna lie, pretty upset at seeing some weird Bronze symbol in there instead of A-F. Why? Pretty sure points = ladder rating right? As long as they give your exact rating and server rank i dont really care if the "ladder groupings" are F to S or Bronze to GM. All i care about is my rating and server rank.
I actually disagree that "points = ladder rating". Internally, Blizzard has always used "rating" to refer to a skill rating. "Points" are reserved for a parallel, player-facing ranking system. They've also shown an affinity toward separate "internal" and "external" ratings and I don't think this will be any different. Points will probably be partially driven by activity like always (this doesn't mean the return of the bonus pool, but perhaps some decay for higher-level players, as in Overwatch/WoW/HotS?).
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On May 27 2017 16:24 TibbersCute wrote:This was the first shot. It's making implications like what I'm saying is dumb, outlandish.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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This makes me excited thinking what would come to Warcraft III soon with the PTR. Awesome
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side question: does anyone know the possible minimal computer configuration for BWR ? I'm starting to get worried as my current one is an old shit from 2007.
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No worries ppp87. It's the same engine so anything from early 2000's will run the game just fine. Even if it looks shiny, it's not going to break any records. A PC from 2007 should have no problems.... Unless it's LITERALLY a potato computer.
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They said it will be close requirements to Hearthstone with is:
Recomended: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.2 GHz/AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.6 GHz, 4 GB RAM, graphic 512 MB GeForce 8800 GT/Radeon HD or better
Minimal: Intel Pentium D 2 GHz/AMD Athlon 64 X2 2 GHz, 2 GB RAM, graphic 256 MB GeForce 6800/Radeon X1600 Pro lor better
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No matter how cool anything BW related looks, I am not interested until official announcement of automatic matchmaking and Ladder.
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HYPE
Haven't felt real hype since jesus was born. here's to hoping we get some sweet matchmaking and some sweet reminiscing.
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On May 27 2017 06:47 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 06:40 yestaiga wrote: why silver bronze gold and not F rank - S Rank. Im sad They ain't iccup. They'll probably use a similar system to the ladders in popular games nowadays. but they are fish, which highly surprises me that they seem to implement metal rankings... i highly dislike this sc2 content T_T
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On May 27 2017 15:35 TibbersCute wrote: LOL ok, I mean Blizzard has a pretty bad history with coming into starcraft and fucking shit up. Here I'm referring to the dev of SC2 while dismantling Kespa and professional BW circa 2010. Basically Blizzard used a lot of money to invest in getting Koreans to attempt a massive swap. They wanted to make money on Korea. They wouldn't even let LAN play happen because they wanted to make money in Korea. So greedy.
Blizzard also has a super bad habit of implementing complete shit and relying on community feedback to find solutions. This happens sort of in general; Blizzard won't fix something unless a ton of community backlash occurs. That's why they have Blizzard forums with tons of whiny posts. Edit: Some examples: SC2 balance was fuckin aweful, and still is. Bnet 2.0 was fuckin aweful, and for all I know it probably still is. Didn't even have chat channels when it launched? Like come on. That's some god aweful development. Like how do you screw something up people got right in the 90's when the internet was actually new? No LAN-play? This fucked up a bunch of tournament matches due to latency or drop problems. Took them FOREVER to implement the replay feature, where the game could start from a replay. This solved the drop-problems for tournaments. But it's still a fuckin band-aid solution. The hype is lost when a match is paused and reloaded. Also why didn't they actually implemented this replay feature in the beginning, and why did it take SO LONG to implement? "too hard to implement"? What a joke. Some random college student hacked together an example and posted here on teamliquid. Without the fucking source code of sc2. A college student. Then Blizzard finally took their fingers out their ass and got in the replay thing. But don't forget, this was all a problem because no LAN play, which is a retarded and greedy decision to begin with.
So now here we are, and the same kind of dev-process and disrespect of brood war can be seen in some of the SC:R development. It's natural to get pissy considering the longer history. It's a valid opinion to be annoyed at Blizzard touching Brood War.
yea why should be tolerated that people who are responsibe for al the "sc"2 shit are touching my game
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