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On May 31 2017 04:17 Shinokuki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2017 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:On May 31 2017 01:57 Shinokuki wrote:On May 31 2017 01:32 Dazed_Spy wrote:On May 31 2017 01:29 TT1 wrote:On May 30 2017 21:56 Endymion wrote:
i wonder how maps will be chosen for mapmaking?? is it community based or blizzard based? can i only play FS if i feel like it? can i pick MUs? will GM only have an arbitrary 200 people in it regardless of mmr so i have to wait for people to be inactive before i can get in or spam games at the start of a season? lots of questions about bnet .20 being retroactively put into broodwar
the profiles are okay as long as they can be fully hidden based on user discretion. otherwise people will tease me about only having 80apm wondering about this as well. i assume theres gonna be a map pool with downvotes but a lot of players only play on FS and CB.. Hopefully its similar to sc2, where you have far less downvotes than the map pool. We as a community need to move pass this map spam bullshit. Theres more to the game than fs or cb. I disagree. Lot of koreans still spam fs or circuit rven though Bluestorm gives double the point. Come on man setilusly playerd wont play in unbalanced maps. You think zerg is going to play terran on camelot? Is it a good thing that koreans spam one map? Should we foreigners seek to emulate that going into the future? Why? There are plenty of maps that are more balanced than camelot, and plenty of fun to be had with map variations. Broodwar has always been a game of map variation, its only the last few years that everyone has become so paralyzed by concerns of balance that we only play two maps, both of which are nearly identical to one another in design. idk i think balance could be affected a lot if you switch up maps Not talking about getting rid of FS or cb, but just putting existing maps that are used within the pro circuit and scene generally, into the match maker. Ofc balance will be affected, not even fs or cb are actually racially balanced. But there are degrees of imbalance that are more than acceptable, and we have plenty of under utilized maps that fit that description.
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On May 31 2017 04:45 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2017 04:17 Shinokuki wrote:On May 31 2017 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:On May 31 2017 01:57 Shinokuki wrote:On May 31 2017 01:32 Dazed_Spy wrote:On May 31 2017 01:29 TT1 wrote:On May 30 2017 21:56 Endymion wrote:
i wonder how maps will be chosen for mapmaking?? is it community based or blizzard based? can i only play FS if i feel like it? can i pick MUs? will GM only have an arbitrary 200 people in it regardless of mmr so i have to wait for people to be inactive before i can get in or spam games at the start of a season? lots of questions about bnet .20 being retroactively put into broodwar
the profiles are okay as long as they can be fully hidden based on user discretion. otherwise people will tease me about only having 80apm wondering about this as well. i assume theres gonna be a map pool with downvotes but a lot of players only play on FS and CB.. Hopefully its similar to sc2, where you have far less downvotes than the map pool. We as a community need to move pass this map spam bullshit. Theres more to the game than fs or cb. I disagree. Lot of koreans still spam fs or circuit rven though Bluestorm gives double the point. Come on man setilusly playerd wont play in unbalanced maps. You think zerg is going to play terran on camelot? Is it a good thing that koreans spam one map? Should we foreigners seek to emulate that going into the future? Why? There are plenty of maps that are more balanced than camelot, and plenty of fun to be had with map variations. Broodwar has always been a game of map variation, its only the last few years that everyone has become so paralyzed by concerns of balance that we only play two maps, both of which are nearly identical to one another in design. idk i think balance could be affected a lot if you switch up maps Not talking about getting rid of FS or cb, but just putting existing maps that are used within the pro circuit and scene generally, into the match maker. Ofc balance will be affected, not even fs or cb are actually racially balanced. But there are degrees of imbalance that are more than acceptable, and we have plenty of under utilized maps that fit that description.
well, a lot of the balance is MU specific too.. like, no terran ever wants to play tvz on blue storm but they don't care playing tvt or tvp, you know? so who knows if they'll have MU picking as a feature
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On May 30 2017 06:41 Marl wrote:
I hope by changing from D-S to metals doesn't signal that they also want to implement matchmaking. In my experience it totally depersonalizes finding a match, makes the community antisocial, and keeps you from facing a more diverse range of opponents. My other favorite game Team Fortress 2 died to this mistake of feature, and it's one of the reasons I believe SC2 never took off when it should have. LoL was 'successful' with matchmaking but it's a team game and I hope no one wants the Broodwar community to be like theirs.
Lots of incorrect stuff in here duderino. SC2 did take off, and matchmaking helped it and other games do so.
If you want Brood War to shrivel up back to its small "elite" community you won't want matchmaking. If you want it to thrive you won't kick it in the nuts by having its find match feature left in 1998. There is literally nothing stopping you from socializing otherwise within b.net.
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Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings.
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On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings.
No it wouldn't be "better", just different
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On June 01 2017 01:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. No it wouldn't be "better", just different
I think it'd be better as S - A - F is somewhat synonymous with brood war, specially S
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Damn those look AMAZING very exciting addition, I'll have fun customizing my blurb again.
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On June 01 2017 01:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. No it wouldn't be "better", just different
Yes, "better" is the correct word there.
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How dare you express an opinion on something purely stylistic. You should acknowledge that all stylistic choices are meaningless and only the objective truth of how the system works matters. Please cleanse yourself and repent.
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I think it is likely that Blizzard will use their own distribution through the ranks rather than what we are familiar with. Most users end up in the middle with few at the bottom and few at the top. In that case most users would be C or B rank when they would have been struggling to make it out of D+ or F in the other systems. I don't know how I would feel about that.
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On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings.
Its the exact same
they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon
and it'd be the exact same
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On June 01 2017 13:11 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. Its the exact same they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon and it'd be the exact same
rectangle hater
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On June 01 2017 13:11 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. Its the exact same they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon and it'd be the exact same
How about this instead...
Grandmaster S. Blaster!
Amaster
Biamond
Clatinum
Dolg
Eilver
Fronze
It makes both sides happy with the added bonus of confusing the hell out of everyone. 
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On June 01 2017 13:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 13:11 arb wrote:On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. Its the exact same they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon and it'd be the exact same How about this instead... Grandmaster S. Blaster! Amaster Biamond Clatinum Dolg Eilver Fronze It makes both sides happy with the added bonus of confusing the hell out of everyone.
Made me lol.
I propose:
Fresh Meat
Super Rare
Rare
Medium Rare
Medium Well
Well Done
Burnt
Charcoal
Shit
On a more serious note, I still prefer the S-F ranks and I think it would be awesome if they implemented them. I don't necessarily want metal ranks because it makes me think of SC2 and League of Legends... I also agree with what somebody earlier said about F ranks and the negative connotation it has because it is associated with "failure".
I am interested in how they are going to do rankings. Hopefully they say something soon!
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On June 01 2017 13:18 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 13:11 arb wrote:On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. Its the exact same they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon and it'd be the exact same rectangle hater
truthfully i forgot some shapes but
you get the idea, right
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Just points 0 - xyK and letters. ty
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On June 01 2017 13:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2017 13:11 arb wrote:On June 01 2017 01:18 esdf wrote:
Would be better if they had A - F instead of sc2 rankings. Its the exact same they could use circle triangle square hexagon octagon and it'd be the exact same How about this instead... Grandmaster S. Blaster! Amaster Biamond Clatinum Dolg Eilver Fronze It makes both sides happy with the added bonus of confusing the hell out of everyone.
Made me lol, too xD
Dolg and Fronze are my fav :D
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On May 28 2017 05:47 MymSlorm wrote:
it looks amazing even though i dislike the bronze, silver, gold, bullshit. every game has that system now. i'm wondering how it'll translate. i think it'll be like this:
D-/D =Bronze
D+ =Silver
C-/C =Gold
C+/B- =Platinum
B/A- = Masters
A/olympic= Grand Master
Hopefully it'll be like that so getting a decent rank would be worth it and mean something, when i played SC2, i got platinum without knowing builds and just being a D+ iccup player
I'm really doubting that. I'm not sure what the rank divisions are in SC2, but when ICCUP was at full steam back in 2009 C-/C border was around top 30%. B rank was top 1% of the player-base.
I wouldn't be opposed, but I doubt they will make 70% of their players Bronze/Silver or the equivalent. Based on numbers I'd expect to see something like
E/Keyboard =Bronze
D- =Silver
D/LowD+ =Gold
D+/C- =Platinum
C/C+ =Diamond
B-/B/B+ = Masters
A-/A/A+/Oly = GM
If they did something similar to SC2, as I *think* I understand it, a player in the bottom 25% would be low silver, a player in 50% skill would be around Gold, a player in the top 25% approaching diamond, a player in the top 3-5% masters, and top 0.5% or so would be in GM, which maps out closely to what I listed above.
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EPT
