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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q4sVLBv.png) The 1st December will start a new season 38 of the ICCUP Ladder, the map pack will be updated with: - replace Lost Temple with a mystery map- delete roadrunner, central districts, byzantium, sin chupung ryeong from the Non Ladder folder- update Cross Game (minor edits) - update Roadkill (minor edits) - update Demian (minor edits) Poll: What map will replace Lost Temple?(Vote): Neo Noahs Ark
(Vote): Heartbeat
(Vote): Saryesik Atyrau
(Vote): Demonio Azul
(Vote): Frozen Canal
(Vote): Vårens Töväder
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/J6zfT4r.jpg)
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Are Vårens Töväder mains blocked or what? Can't see from the picture, are there downloadable?
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No,
NO,
NOO,
NOOOUU!!!
None of these maps deserve spot of LT! You can't kill our childhood. Who needs Longinus, Luna or Hunters (as ladder map)?
And why the hell you're deleting old maps from Non-Ladder folder, are you fucking out of your mind? That folder is for remembrance, why you even want to touch that folder, does deleting needful things gives you a benefit? 5 MB is too much for you or to your host in 2015? Can't believe what are you doing guys. You're admin so please remain as admin and don't touch things that you didn't create. You're killing past for empty future.
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LT is horribly imbalanced and shouldn't be part of any ladder that's trying to represent actual skill. No one's stopping you from playing it off ladder- obs maps and 1v1 Melee game mode get played on iccup all the time. That said, none of these maps look well-balanced either, but I guess we'll see.
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replace LT with python 2.0 for the peruvians xdxd
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are there any better pictures for these maps? its hard to see the details of the layouts
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Why remove legendary Lost Temple? Sc:bw = LT for many gamers. Its a disgrace.
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Cool maps but damn some of these thirds look unpleasant to expand too lol.
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Yes, throw Lost Temple into the wood chipper.
Also, Heartbeat.
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Russian Federation145 Posts
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Why remove maps at all? If people want to play them, let them play them. Who cares if someone abuses LT to C- or whatever?
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All of these look very unstandard but could be interesting. What are the grid-looking things on the top right map?
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removing lost temple is removing the history of starcraft ^^
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Heartbeat,
Why are you removing maps from the non-ladder folder, its not like they're doing any harm there?
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I also disagree with the removal of Lost Temple as well as the maps from the non-ladder mappack.
LT is imbalanced. Yes that is a fact, but everyone knows this fact. And everyone knows the imbalances. No one is forced to play LT, so if there are ladder games on it, anyone involved should be fine with them.
Non Ladder mappack should just be the accumulation of the old ladder maps, which aren't used anymore. So why even delete maps out of it?
On-Topic:
Please upload all the map overviews in a high resolution, so people can evaluate them. Otherwise it is more of a guessing game than actual picking. Like I'd rather have a Forrest tileset than a desert one, but maybe Saryesik Atyrau is the best map out of those six?
Furthermore I think most of the map-names need changes. Especially Saryesik Atyrau and Vårens Töväder.
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Why does this drama has to arise all the time when a map will be removed from the ladder-maps? I was involved in making the iCCup mappack few years ago, and we had official numbers of played ladder games per season per map. Even when we wanted to remove maps that had ZERO to max. 3 games PER SEASON people freaked out when we just came up with the idea of removing it. This is really silly, because we need a "balanced" mappack, which means alot of maps that get played equally often. Or we will end up playing FS and Python all the time, no matter what is in MOTW.
This is not about iCCup being disrespectful to the history of BW, it is about keeping the game interesting in our present gaming experience. Also, iCCup won't remove LT from the world wide web, so you are still free to play any version of it, just not as official ladder game, since (almost) nobody does that anyways. Lets give space to the present and future of BW and not hold on the past.
That being said, I also would like to know why it is necessary to remove maps from the Non-Ladder folder. It doesn't hurt to have them all in one place, so we don't have to search the web for the up-to-date versions. It just leads to bloated up download folders, because several different versions will go around on the abyss. If you want to keep the package size low, how about splitting the downloadable mappack file in an "Official Ladder Mappack" and "Non-Ladder Mappack"? This would fix it in my opinion.
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On November 23 2015 01:14 PhilipJayFry wrote:
I also would like to know why it is necessary to remove maps from the Non-Ladder folder.
Maps from Non-Ladder folder "Roadrunner", "Central Districts", "Byzantium" and "Sin Chupung Ryung (this probably because of long name)" seem to be corrupted opening with editors, but sure we can leave them in the folder, not a problem, thx for feedback.
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ooo do I spot an island map? :D
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Piste, Vårens Töväder mains arent blocked physically, but vision is.
razorsuKe, yep Frozen Canal is an island map by CrystalDrag. Freakling has made some new island maps too here incase you are interested:
+ Show Spoiler +
outscar, I don’t like how rude your post is.
Jealous, there can be only 50! maps at once in the ladder for technical reasons, I don’t know what they are.
iamho, the diamonds on Saryesik Atyrau are unbuildable decoration.
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EPT
