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CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
November 23 2015 00:48 GMT
#21
Go for desert power, looks awesome! (Saryesik)
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 13:14:47
November 23 2015 01:35 GMT
#22
outscar, I don’t like how rude your post is.

Well, you need to get used to good, old and drunk outscar ^^. Sorry if I crossed borderline. I am really sensitive to map changes and deleting any map kills me. I already suffered loss when Alternative, Gaia and etc. oldschoolers have gone from last pack. Removal of LT was the last straw

Maps from Non-Ladder folder "Roadrunner", "Central Districts", "Byzantium" and "Sin Chupung Ryung (this probably because of long name)" seem to be corrupted opening with editors, but sure we can leave them in the folder, not a problem, thx for feedback.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/479516-iccup-map-pack-march-2015?page=2
I fixed them long ago, you should replace them (note that they can be played without any problem via iCCup but not single player mode and opened with editor now): http://www.2shared.com/file/CAlqC1ww/4Nonladdermaps.html

Let's get down to the core of discussion and take a look to maps:

I don't really like the shape of Varens Tovader, especially mains seem strange, difficult map to adapt I think. I'm not even nearly expert but my basic analysis:
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I am happy to see Heartbeat as a ladder map.
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^ And so with Demonio Azul, those two are finest.
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Noahs Ark is gosu korean with beautiful architecture map. But doesn't it too complicated for foreigners to consider it as a ladder map?
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Frozen Canal is nice but is there anyone who willing to play on island maps because they're IMBA though interesting skirmishes can occur there? I accept it if Crystal would change it to ground type map maybe with including destructable buildings - what's that called when main is blocked, semi-island or I'm mistaken?
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I am neutral with Saryesik, it didn't impress me, I can't say a positive thing before playing at least a game.
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Thanks to Face for providing new changes to ladder system and accepting so many foreigner maps. Nowadays server lures much more koreans than ever and I think they will also gonna like new maps (and maybe help to recognize foreigner mapmaking community to Korea via Fish).

Myself also really wanted to see some other maps for selection:

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Reap the Storm - http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4753
Another Freakling's mastery work


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Silvery Waves - http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4776
Last active korean mapmaker LatiAs tried really hard to convince Sonic to include this map for SSL but OGN declined. Includes Zerg only gas under neutral buildings.


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Antiga Shipyard - http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4778
SC2 to BW conversion. Looks pretty solid 4 player map.


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Da Capo - http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4784
Reminds Gladiator, meh?


I wanted to point out some Cardinal maps, after seeing that awesome clon/mix of La Mancha (not being meticulous but Face, please remove "THE" Latin Quarter from map name for next pack because it's unnecessary, original didn't include that article, and too long characters) as Latin Quarter and FS & Ground Zero style map as Toad Stone made their way to map pack but... he just literally stopped making them .
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 23 2015 01:50 GMT
#23
im no map expert or anything, but i think LT hasn't been played in ladder games a lot and it's very unattractive for laddering. So i don't see the problem removing it actually, when everybody can still play it. I think i played my last ICCup ladder game on LT in ...2008 or something. I never had the idea to open it and never joined a game that had it.
Broodwar for life!
mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
November 23 2015 03:51 GMT
#24
i play always lt when it is in motw map
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
November 23 2015 05:54 GMT
#25
Keep LT.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 08:29:30
November 23 2015 08:28 GMT
#26
On November 22 2015 14:43 ninazerg wrote:
Yes, throw Lost Temple into the wood chipper.

Also, Heartbeat.


typical girl attracted to the the map with the heart :D
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 11:54:57
November 23 2015 11:53 GMT
#27
Wow. I'd love to see Reap the Storm and Silvery Waves in big tournaments.

edit - Noah's Ark too.
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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 12:13:24
November 23 2015 12:09 GMT
#28
On November 23 2015 10:35 outscar wrote:


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Silvery Waves - http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4776
Last active korean mapmaker LatiAs tried really hard to convince Sonic to include this map for SSL but OGN declined. Includes Zerg only gas under neutral buildings.




What a fucking gorgeous map. I don't play much/any ladder at the moment but I do think it's a shame the korean leagues aren't taking in new map pools.

EDIT: and reap the storm also looks fantastic. I would love to see top games played on some of these...
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
November 23 2015 12:17 GMT
#29
outscar, its cool, you wear your heart on your sleeve. Post#22 is really kind, energetic and useful constructive criticism.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
November 23 2015 19:33 GMT
#30
What?

You have to keep Lost Temple, man
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1479 Posts
November 23 2015 20:24 GMT
#31
Iccup is not removing LT, its loosing it....

Ok that sounded far better in my head.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 20:59:19
November 23 2015 20:55 GMT
#32
This season's 1v1 ladder map stats provided by Birdie@TeamLiquid:

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Yea guys, no one ladders on LT anymore. It's only the third-most popular map of the whole lot.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 21:37:31
November 23 2015 21:35 GMT
#33
god why are there so many protoss players on ladder.. look at this stats

edit
also lol at those 6 tvt games played on tau cross, i can only imagine the lobby discussion beforehand... "do you really want to???" ".... i guess so...."
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
November 23 2015 21:37 GMT
#34
Keep LT please, great map for interesting games.
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iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
November 24 2015 02:44 GMT
#35
Lost Temple (map since 1999) is a very good map and I personally played and loved it a lot.
The best pro game I've ever seen was played on Gaia (map since 2005) but we still removed it, now is the turn of LT.

A day will come the time to be removed for FS and Python too.

Leave space to newer maps!
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
November 24 2015 02:58 GMT
#36
On November 24 2015 11:44 iCCup.Face wrote:
A day will come the time to be removed for FS and Python too.

RIP ICCup
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
November 24 2015 04:32 GMT
#37
On November 24 2015 11:44 iCCup.Face wrote:
Lost Temple (map since 1999) is a very good map and I personally played and loved it a lot.
The best pro game I've ever seen was played on Gaia (map since 2005) but we still removed it, now is the turn of LT.

A day will come the time to be removed for FS and Python too.

Leave space to newer maps!



why you force something? noone wants it. Maybe first try with a poll. There are many maps which can be removed, but LT
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 05:17:38
November 24 2015 05:17 GMT
#38
On November 24 2015 11:44 iCCup.Face wrote:
Lost Temple (map since 1999) is a very good map and I personally played and loved it a lot.
The best pro game I've ever seen was played on Gaia (map since 2005) but we still removed it, now is the turn of LT.

A day will come the time to be removed for FS and Python too.

Leave space to newer maps!
If you want room for newer maps, get rid of Gemlong, tau cross or longinus. All old maps, all less played than Lost temple, all have balance issues.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
November 24 2015 06:06 GMT
#39
Thank you iccup for trying to introduce fun new maps. However, I agree with the general sentiment and think that moving maps from the ladder to the non-ladder folder, instead of removing them, would be a better option.
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
November 24 2015 06:33 GMT
#40
Well that IS basically removing them.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
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