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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 09 2015 13:55 GMT
#41
On June 09 2015 21:49 Qikz wrote:
Nooooooooooooooooooooo. Screw Military service ;_;

It doesn't make any sense even with NK on the border, because modern armies simply don't work with conscripts anymore and despite NKs huge military they wouldn't stand a chance in conventional modern warfare. Training people to fight a war is so stupid.

This is more than just "North Korea will not win the war", including Korean society (and how military is just part of it now so all men 'grow up' or something)

On June 09 2015 22:43 heynes wrote:
im kinda of semi sure that kespa made ACE so that Boxer could go on playing broodwar.
Times have changed but maybe we could see something like that again with Bisu ?

Never.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19305 Posts
June 09 2015 14:00 GMT
#42
On June 09 2015 22:06 Shock710 wrote:
i have to say i am curious to how fast bisu will bounce back after years of not playing at all

Nada seems to be doing just fine and seeing how quickly he came back to form after SC2 I wouldn't be to worried. Him be gone will heavy impact on the overall scene. He's the only true S-Class god active on the scene. Unless someone like Nada returns to Nada level form, media attention will take a slight hit.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 09 2015 14:00 GMT
#43
Good luck Bisu!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 14:05:48
June 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#44
On June 09 2015 22:06 Shock710 wrote:
i have to say i am curious to how fast bisu will bounce back after years of not playing at all


actually you can still play BW during army period(if your duty is light enough), just that you cannot stream without explicit permission

mini is still seen playing in fish server occasionally despite being in the army now

On June 09 2015 23:00 BisuDagger wrote:
Nada seems to be doing just fine and seeing how quickly he came back to form after SC2 I wouldn't be to worried. Him be gone will heavy impact on the overall scene. He's the only true S-Class god active on the scene. Unless someone like Nada returns to Nada level form, media attention will take a slight hit.


i think nada did practice for a bit during his army period, his mechanics seem a bit too sharp to have not supposedly played for ~2 years
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 09 2015 14:06 GMT
#45
How does serving in the Korean Armed Forces work? Is it a full-time 24/7 you're-in-the-barracks sort of gig except on certain days, or is it more of a 9-5 type of job for the guys who are only in the army because they have to be?
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UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
June 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#46
The regular Korean military is 21 months with a full 24/7 gig in the barracks with occasional vacations along the way. You have a 30~days of breaks that is for certain, but can get more by getting awards along the way.

There are other programs that are 9-5, but those are for the people who have physical/mental disabilities.

In my opinion Korea has the military service (these days) because most Koreans before then are stuck in the Korean educational system 24/7 and have no room to actually explore other avenues of life, so may tend to be immature. So it's a nice way to grow up and also get used to the corporate structure that you WILL face when you get a job in Korea.

Source : I finished my compulsory service about 4 months ago. HUE
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 14:18:50
June 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#47
On June 09 2015 23:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does serving in the Korean Armed Forces work? Is it a full-time 24/7 you're-in-the-barracks sort of gig except on certain days, or is it more of a 9-5 type of job for the guys who are only in the army because they have to be?


it depends on your fitness condition,

if you are fully fit then you will do some outfield vocation that requires long periods of in camp stay

if you have some preexisting debilitating medical condition/chronic illness then you would do something clerical/office work which is usually a 9-5 job without having to stay in camp. you would have more time to do other things, like taking enrichment classes or playing BW for a bit, just with restrictions like not taking another job or earn money somewhere else (afreeca streaming)
currently people like (P)BeSt belong in this category

source: not korea but did conscription in another country...

intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 14:22:06
June 09 2015 14:21 GMT
#48
On June 09 2015 23:12 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
The regular Korean military is 21 months with a full 24/7 gig in the barracks with occasional vacations along the way. You have a 30~days of breaks that is for certain, but can get more by getting awards along the way.

There are other programs that are 9-5, but those are for the people who have physical/mental disabilities.

In my opinion Korea has the military service (these days) because most Koreans before then are stuck in the Korean educational system 24/7 and have no room to actually explore other avenues of life, so may tend to be immature. So it's a nice way to grow up and also get used to the corporate structure that you WILL face when you get a job in Korea.

Source : I finished my compulsory service about 4 months ago. HUE

Thanks for the insight, and congrats on finishing the service! :D
A hyung/classmate of mine also did it, and he seemed to be unshakable at university.

On June 09 2015 23:15 Probemicro wrote:
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On June 09 2015 23:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does serving in the Korean Armed Forces work? Is it a full-time 24/7 you're-in-the-barracks sort of gig except on certain days, or is it more of a 9-5 type of job for the guys who are only in the army because they have to be?


it depends on your fitness condition,

if you are fully fit then you will do some outfield vocation that requires long periods of in camp stay

if you have some preexisting debilitating medical condition/chronic illness then you would do something clerical/office work which is usually a 9-5 job without having to stay in camp. you would have more time to do other things, like taking enrichment classes or playing BW for a bit, just with restrictions like not taking another job or earn money somewhere else (afreeca streaming)
currently people like (P)BeSt belong in this category

source: not korea but did conscription in another country...



Ah okay, thanks! I'm sure that iloveoov fell into this camp. Does anyone know whether or not Bisu had any significant physical problems?
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snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 14:24:26
June 09 2015 14:22 GMT
#49
What I could find regarding methods to postpone military service in Korea:

Method / Period

Mental or physical illness - up to 60 days
Family crisis / death - up to 30 days
Natural disaster - up to 60 days
National service exam - until results are in
Planned and approved stay abroad - varies
University entrance exam - varies
Sibling currently in service - up to 1 year
Various exams (doctors, governmental, etc) - until results are in (up to 1 year)
GED Exams - until results are in (either may or august of this year)
Juducial trainee - until 28 years of age (1 year at a time)
Vocational trainee - until graduation
Vocational college student - until graduation (if graduating within one year and under the age of 29)
University student - until graduation
Irreplaceable public worker / official figure - 1 year at a time pending reevaluation
Fostering children - until the child turns 6 years old (1 year at a time)
Other unavoidable circumstances - 3 months at a time pending reevaluation

Edit: Perhaps one of the Koreans in the thread can shed some light on this. It looks surprisingly difficult to postpone considering all the afreeca streamers postponing their service.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51530 Posts
June 09 2015 14:31 GMT
#50
Kingdom had a bust shoulder due to kendo.
iloveoov had slipped in the shower and had a long rehabilitation from memory.
Nal_rA had bad eyesight (but he's fine now)

I think July didn't get any leeway lol.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50612 Posts
June 09 2015 15:10 GMT
#51
On June 09 2015 23:31 GTR wrote:
Kingdom had a bust shoulder due to kendo.
iloveoov had slipped in the shower and had a long rehabilitation from memory.
Nal_rA had bad eyesight (but he's fine now)

I think July didn't get any leeway lol.


Bisu suffers from a severe case of fabulousness
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 09 2015 15:18 GMT
#52
On June 10 2015 00:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 23:31 GTR wrote:
Kingdom had a bust shoulder due to kendo.
iloveoov had slipped in the shower and had a long rehabilitation from memory.
Nal_rA had bad eyesight (but he's fine now)

I think July didn't get any leeway lol.


Bisu suffers from a severe case of fabulousness


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

On June 09 2015 21:42 [[Starlight]] wrote:
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On June 09 2015 20:53 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 09 2015 18:14 [[Starlight]] wrote:
If only we could convince Kim Jong Un to quit being an asshole, there'd be no need for any of this.



I wrote a Starcraft 1 fanfic where Luxury and Yarnc were actually North Koreans sent across country lines to bring down South Korea by destroying Brood War...

Fanfic? You mean, they're not?



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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1713 Posts
June 09 2015 16:00 GMT
#53
That comment about bisu's fabulousness is so hilarious yet so true hahaha

But this is sad news... i hope he can still defer it and win ssl first before going to military. I know this day will come but didn't realize that it's happening this soon.
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
June 09 2015 16:18 GMT
#54
Maybe he can move away form Korea to USA or another country and postpone the military for ever? I hate obligatory military, fucking nonsense waste of money and humans.
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
June 09 2015 16:52 GMT
#55
On June 10 2015 01:18 No_eL wrote:
Maybe he can move away form Korea to USA or another country and postpone the military for ever? I hate obligatory military, fucking nonsense waste of money and humans.


And then he wouldn't be allowed back into Korea for draft dodging. SK doesn't take lightly to people purposely avoiding enlistment. Steve Yoo (ex-KPop star) got US Citizenship in 2002 right before he was due to enlist, the SK government saw that as desertion and banned him from entering the country. He was recently begging for forgiveness and wanted to be able to go back to Korea but the government have been pretty set on denying him entry.
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Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine177 Posts
June 09 2015 17:25 GMT
#56
Very sad indeed. But on the other hand it's the only way to get non-bisu champion.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
June 09 2015 17:40 GMT
#57
Sad day
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10286 Posts
June 09 2015 18:54 GMT
#58
On June 09 2015 23:15 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 23:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does serving in the Korean Armed Forces work? Is it a full-time 24/7 you're-in-the-barracks sort of gig except on certain days, or is it more of a 9-5 type of job for the guys who are only in the army because they have to be?


it depends on your fitness condition,

if you are fully fit then you will do some outfield vocation that requires long periods of in camp stay

if you have some preexisting debilitating medical condition/chronic illness then you would do something clerical/office work which is usually a 9-5 job without having to stay in camp. you would have more time to do other things, like taking enrichment classes or playing BW for a bit, just with restrictions like not taking another job or earn money somewhere else (afreeca streaming)
currently people like (P)BeSt belong in this category

source: not korea but did conscription in another country...


but... best is a freaking monster. pretty sure he belongs in the camp stay if not lifting the entirety of NK and throwing it into the ocean. im pretty sure the combination of Nada's Body, BeSt, and Reach would be able to do it.
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Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
June 09 2015 22:02 GMT
#59
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UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
June 09 2015 23:24 GMT
#60
There are tons of ways that is listed in order to dodge, that's for certain. But the most certain one for postponement that works the best is usually in regards to education/college. If there's exams and stuff, then the government is pretty lenient. But other than that, it's pretty hard to dodge. One of my friends graduated from Yonsei University this year but couldn't attend his FUCKING GRADUATION because his draft was early April and his graduation was late April. He tried to postpone it but because it wasn't 'anything important', they didn't allow it.

If you go to another country with the appearance of trying to avoid the military, the Korean news goes ape-shit crazy. There's a few celebrities who were basically publicly killed off from their careers because they tried to dodge the service. It's seen as a very bad thing to do.
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