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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
On August 03 2014 23:44 SnowFantasy wrote: I would play the shit out of these lesser played maps but you need a second person for that. Wish more people played something like Benzene  Me, too. What's your ICCUP ID? I am C Rank Terran, I can add you and we can play some cool maps ;D | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
I think RoV is a pretty good and entertaining map, I make sure to play on it every time it's MOTW. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On August 03 2014 23:54 BigFan wrote: ^ sounds like you need to join DRTL  I honestly don't have the most experience with maps though I've heard that Ride of Valkyries can be a rather unbalanced map. I totally would join DRTL but unfortunately I exceed the rank requirements by a little bit. | ||
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WhiteKnight.US
Great Britain102 Posts
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iCCup.Face
Italy447 Posts
On August 04 2014 02:58 WhiteKnight.US wrote: face how many maps are you going to remove? there are many bad maps. Depend how many good maps you propose, to add a new one we remove an old one. we can keep 50 maps max | ||
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xboi209
United States1173 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On August 04 2014 05:55 xboi209 wrote: but there's no minimum right? If there aren't any maps to fill in empty spots, we don't HAVE to have 50 maps. We could just have 20 good maps and everything is fine. We shouldn't remove stuff for the sake of removing it. It's better when there's a variety of MOTW maps. Sadly that doesn't happen currently. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On August 03 2014 15:09 Piste wrote: Nooo removing LT would be like removing the childhood from your history Never throwing away trinkets of nostalgia is how people fill their houses with trash on the show Hoarders. I think it's time you let go and move forward. | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
to narrow it down a bit further, perhaps pick those that look moderately 'standard' and somewhat standardly symmetric. and by 'standard' i mean standard for our nowadays vague understanding about a standard/balanced map to narrow it down even more, perhaps pick the updated version maps, as those are somewhat more likely to be better in many ways than the others, but don't shy away from asking freaklingzerg himself to balance the others further if he wishes and has the time to do so sorry if i forget names like CardinalAllin who also uses to make maps or any other foreigner mapmaker. I am not too familiar with their work as deeply as with freakling's as for the removals, it seems that Ride of Valkyries is the best removal option i am currently unaware of available korean mapmakers that could help. just a quickie imo - if a map hasn't been tested/played out in a relatively big chinese/korean tournament/event, that doesn't mean the map is "better" than the ones that have not been used even in any tournament. i go even as far as to think that (i might be wrong) the chance of finding a somewhat new, good looking and balanced map in the aforementioned thread is higher, than looking through the all the maps that have been used in the korean pro scene since... say 2001 for example | ||
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xboi209
United States1173 Posts
On August 04 2014 05:58 Qikz wrote: We shouldn't remove stuff for the sake of removing it. It's better when there's a variety of MOTW maps. Sadly that doesn't happen currently. Well what I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't keep unbalanced, unplayed maps just because we can't find another map to replace it | ||
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tryummm
774 Posts
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
On August 04 2014 06:05 xboi209 wrote: Well what I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't keep unbalanced, unplayed maps just because we can't find another map to replace it Well if there are maps which were literally played 0 times maybe this makes sense, otherwise why do you want to dictate how people play the game? | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
Both have been used in STL 1 and are therefore as extensively tested as new maps will ever be... And I agree that you should remove DeserTec. It's just not balanced and I would have never added it personally. I am working on a similar concept though, but it's still far from finished: http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4730 Wind and Cloud needs a new version. I daresay even the newest version available has major positionl balance issues. Koreans just know jack shit about debugging and balancing resources, and SSL simply doesn't have a pool of Don't add Pamir Plateau, it's almost certainly badly terran imba (if Sonic decides to not use a map, it's probably because players are bombing him with complaints)... If you add Mist, realize that there is an updated version that has some much needed changes and bugfixes, use that one or let it be. No idea where to get it, though, probably on Fish server. If any one has it, I please post a download link or something, many people around here (tournament mods, birdserver people and myself included) want that map. Nostalgia is a bad reason to keep crap maps like LT in the pool. Playing some fun match for memory's sake on it is one thing, forcing people to ladder on it is bad though. RoV is old, probably not fully up to balance any more, but also rather unique in concept and there's nothing to really replace it... Alternative, Beltway, Monte Christo all seem like rather expendable maps to me. Outlier is just badly imba for TvZ (terran is pretty screwed, that is) Moonglaive isn't really great balance wise, either, as far as I know... But I also don't want to snipe all the three spawn maps... | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
If you decide to add any of my maps (or of some one else's from BWMN) or just generally need help pr advice concerning certain maps, don't be shy to just contact me. I will gladly help any I most probably know more about maps, bug testing/fixing etc. than any one else. | ||
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8882
2718 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On August 04 2014 06:46 Freakling wrote: Don't add Pamir Plateau I agree with this; but only partially. If the map was modified, it might be quite a bit better. My favorite map from the mapmaker tournament was Gemlong. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On August 04 2014 06:51 Freakling wrote: That is to say: If you decide to add any of my maps (or of some one else's from BWMN) or just generally need help pr advice concerning certain maps, don't be shy to just contact me. I will gladly help any I most probably know more about maps, bug testing/fixing etc. than any one else. ^^please listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 04 2014 02:10 SnowFantasy wrote: I totally would join DRTL but unfortunately I exceed the rank requirements by a little bit. ah I see, well, I don't mind having some fun games if you want so long as you play zerg lol. Let me know if you're interested and I can provide my iccup id. | ||
Falling
Canada11379 Posts
They are so out of keeping with almost a decade of bw's metagame. People can still play them, just not for ladder points. It's nice when you can ladder for tourney practice and neither of those maps are any help at all. If there are any other maps of that era that limits modern gameplay, they should go too. Even if we have 48/50. 48/ 50 total, but 5/5 usuable maps for pratical purposes, has far more variety thant 50/50 maps, but only 4/5 usuable. (Or 3/5- because one of the maps is usually a 2v2 map?) I definitely agree with adding the updated Mist to the ladder (and any other good maps that wind up getting played in the Sonic leagues.) @2pac- were you thinking BGH for the 2v2 ladder? | ||
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fearthequeen
United States788 Posts
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