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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 01 2014 19:57 GMT
#61
yeah but then you have to deal with the fact that your CC is floating and all your other SCVs are smoking a joint @_@
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
August 01 2014 21:42 GMT
#62
On July 31 2014 22:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you can mine minerals with your scv, tell the scv to go up the ramp, then liftoff your command center and pressing c for return cargo. Scv will enter gathering mode and be able to walk through the zealot.

Or how about this one, if you're in a zvp stalemate and you just have defilers and queens against his cannons, you can broodling larvea to get units, consume broodlings to get energy for plague and swarm, and win anyway.


WAT
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
August 01 2014 22:14 GMT
#63
Drone has been in that stalemate situation MANY of times i'm sure. He surely knows what he's talking about!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 01 2014 22:41 GMT
#64
If you get into that kind of stalemate you are playing the wrong game.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
August 01 2014 22:45 GMT
#65
On July 31 2014 18:42 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 17:33 Sayle wrote:
On July 31 2014 10:26 Cambium wrote:
On July 31 2014 07:45 jello_biafra wrote:
I actually remember when this patch came out and it was a new feature...apparently 9 years ago now.

The other thing that was changed was that you can set a rally point for a building before it's complete.


heh... I remember zealots changing from 80/80 to 60/100....

To this day, I still wonder whether it was a buff or a nerf


That's a buff. Shields don't benefit from unit sizes/damage types and take full damage from all sources. HP benefits from that mechanic so zealots (small size) will take reduced damage from many sources once their shields are down.


It's especially true as very often zealots are used as meatshields and don't benefit much from shield regeneration. Unlike goon/archons in pvz mid-late/late game that you keep alive forever thanks to shield regen and zealot tanking the damage.

Another important point: it's also 20 extra hp remaining after an EMP.


Another point is they can survive a yamato.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28669 Posts
August 01 2014 23:14 GMT
#66
I actually have been in it once lol.
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 01 2014 23:47 GMT
#67
step 1 box a few units.
step 2 select something else.
step 3 hold alt and click on one of the units you boxed with it will select every unit you boxed with.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-02 01:05:37
August 02 2014 01:04 GMT
#68
On July 30 2014 15:36 GGzerG wrote:
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On July 30 2014 11:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:11 EndingLife wrote:
I just realized today, after playing SC:BW for like 12 years off and on, that you can simply click a building and right click the where you want to rally it to. I have been using R + Left click to rally things ALL this time.

. If it makes you feel better right click doesn't work if you install from disks. You have to get the bnet update first.


Umm... I don't know that this could possibly be true...Since you could rally with right click rally since the SC Demo version where it was only TvT...
Uhh...no you couldnt. Right click came about in a patch, and a patch quite a few years after the game came out. I didnt notice it until 2006, and I played the game since 1998.

edit: and it *was* a patch that added it, not the b.net version.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2014 02:49 GMT
#69
shift+number will add the currently selected units to that number hotkey / control group.
blabberrrrr
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 02 2014 03:25 GMT
#70
On August 02 2014 11:49 blabber wrote:
shift+number will add the currently selected units to that number hotkey / control group.


Isn't this pretty well known? If you don't know this then you need to rebuild your control groups from scratch every time new units pop.

Or if there is another way to add units to existing groups, this thread is the perfect place to mention it. Anyone? ^^
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Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
August 02 2014 03:32 GMT
#71
On July 30 2014 18:32 WGT-Baal wrote:
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On July 30 2014 18:26 Qikz wrote:
On July 30 2014 14:56 opisska wrote:
On July 30 2014 13:45 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Yeah, there are two misconceptions I often hear when it comes to bw mechanics. One is you have to use "R" for rally points, the other is you can't shift-click your workers back to the mineral line after building something.


That's true, but for SCVS, you need to set the mining command before it starts constructing, otherwise it will not be registered. That has costed me so much mining time ...


I've been playing this game for 8 years and I didn't know you could rally SCVs back after building a building to mine. I always have so many idle scvs late game because of it. So thankyou for pointing that out.


same here, as a P I always thought it was a specific advantage of my race and whenever I was T I would wait for the building to complete then manually select the scv to send it back to the minerals...


Damn that's crazy I'm a terrible D level Terran player and I always knew you should queue up mining right before building a depot or etc.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 02 2014 03:50 GMT
#72
On July 30 2014 13:45 CakeSauc3 wrote:
the other is you can't shift-click your workers back to the mineral line after building something.

Wait, what?!
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 03 2014 18:22 GMT
#73
On August 02 2014 08:47 reps)squishy wrote:
step 1 box a few units.
step 2 select something else.
step 3 hold alt and click on one of the units you boxed with it will select every unit you boxed with.

what is this black magic??
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ijustlost
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
United States45 Posts
August 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#74
dont know if its already been posted but if you hold shift you can add units to your control group
for the overmind
upro)wraith
Profile Joined May 2014
Israel64 Posts
August 03 2014 19:10 GMT
#75
On August 02 2014 12:32 Silentness wrote:


Damn that's crazy I'm a terrible D level Terran player and I always knew you should queue up mining right before building a depot or etc.

if your marine medic army gets plagued you can save medics energy my using move command on a healthy marine
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
August 03 2014 20:04 GMT
#76
if you have a large vessel cloud and want to see which ones have energy for irradiate, tell them all to irrad a unit far away (it can be your own). you can separate them even quicker by telling all vessels to move in the opposite direction first. same with any caster unit & spell.
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5390 Posts
August 03 2014 22:36 GMT
#77
On August 04 2014 05:04 skzlime wrote:
if you have a large vessel cloud and want to see which ones have energy for irradiate, tell them all to irrad a unit far away (it can be your own). you can separate them even quicker by telling all vessels to move in the opposite direction first. same with any caster unit & spell.

I really like this trick! Should work with all spellcasters right?
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28669 Posts
August 03 2014 22:39 GMT
#78
yes! I've used it for queens and broodling but it actually makes way more sense and has way more practical application for vessels. :D
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Zero[1159]
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil101 Posts
August 03 2014 23:59 GMT
#79
On July 31 2014 22:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
so how about this

if you are terran, and you want to scout someone, say a protoss, but there's a zealot on his ramp blocking

you can mine minerals with your scv, tell the scv to go up the ramp, then liftoff your command center and pressing c for return cargo. Scv will enter gathering mode and be able to walk through the zealot.

Or how about this one, if you're in a zvp stalemate and you just have defilers and queens against his cannons, you can broodling larvea to get units, consume broodlings to get energy for plague and swarm, and win anyway.

OMG... the svc trick... holly shit!
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 00:19:08
August 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#80
There is a guy operating the missile turret - look carefully at the wireframe.

You can "ping" on the minimap in 2v2 games (I think it's alt+click).

You can use the move command on an unit and put it on another unit - and it will follow that other unit (although a bit slow). It's useful for observers and overlords, especially in 2v2 when you want your units to follow ally's units.

Infested terrans die when you attack move (at the spot where you ordered them to attack).

You can set rally point to a nydus canal.

You can EMP comsat stations, to make the opponent lose scan for some time (I think this happened in some TvT where one player massed wraiths)

When a dropship/shuttle/overlord with units inside is flying somehwere, you can click on the units in it, so they will drop, but the dropship/shuttle/overlord will keep flying.

On July 30 2014 23:22 Sayle wrote:
You think that's bad? I played BW for years thinking you had to make zealots and dragoons as protoss. Then I discovered you could win just by making DTs.


This reminded me about all the discussions about Protoss being the weakest race, when all they did was zealots and dragoons and usually forgot observers... you needed Bisu for the "revolution". I cringe every time I still see a protoss forget obs timing though.

On July 31 2014 02:32 Qikz wrote:
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On July 31 2014 01:18 CakeSauc3 wrote:
On July 31 2014 01:15 iSometric wrote:
Are you able to right click on the minimap to rally? or just in frame?


You can right click on the minimap.


WOOOOOOOOOOAH well my life has been turned upside down today.


you cant right click during pause though, because this would crash the game if I remember correctly ^^
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