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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 16 2012 18:22 GMT
#261
On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote:
if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?

can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics

You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
June 16 2012 18:45 GMT
#262
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.


This! I completely agree.
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1718 Posts
June 16 2012 18:50 GMT
#263
On June 17 2012 03:45 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.


This! I completely agree.

Who is criticising...?
EleGant[AoV]
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 16 2012 18:53 GMT
#264
On June 17 2012 03:50 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 03:45 dellesh1ruH wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.


This! I completely agree.

Who is criticising...?

have you read the thread ahahaha
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:06:14
June 16 2012 19:00 GMT
#265
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 16 2012 19:01 GMT
#266
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The think I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.


Yeah seriously...lmao.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:12:31
June 16 2012 19:08 GMT
#267
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
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On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


Riot pays tournaments prize money and Dota/HoN don't. That is the extent of their "shadiness".

Source: And MLG Gold Q+A with Sundance Giovanni, when someone asked if Dota2 would be in MLG, he said Riot supported their game financially (prize money) and Valve didn't.

It's true that LoL's scene is a lot less organic than BW's or even SC2's, but if people are really enjoying it, I don't think that's all that bad.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 16 2012 19:08 GMT
#268
On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote:
if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?

can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics

You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?

not necessarily true in dota!
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flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
June 16 2012 19:19 GMT
#269
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.


Please stop pulling this sort of nonsense.

It's more likely that the people who moved from BW to SC2 simply moved again to LoL for the same reasons--a newer game and a bigger and richer scene. And now people are pissed that those hoppers have abandoned their game.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 16 2012 19:21 GMT
#270
Oh, so those people saying BW was obsolete were right. Just not about which game.

On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.


If it is called StarCraft obviously there's gonna be comparison, on the other hand most people commenting about LoL don't care about DotA.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
June 16 2012 19:24 GMT
#271
On June 17 2012 04:19 flashimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.


Please stop pulling this sort of nonsense.

It's more likely that the people who moved from BW to SC2 simply moved again to LoL for the same reasons--a newer game and a bigger and richer scene. And now people are pissed that those hoppers have abandoned their game.

SC2 was never their game though that's the thing
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:25:17
June 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#272
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.

Hypocrites
MMA: The true King of Wings
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 16 2012 19:29 GMT
#273
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.

Hypocrites


Because I would rather the players take in something that they actually enjoy instead of being forced down the throat something else. And we are totally empathetic about their choice.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 16 2012 19:50 GMT
#274
After reading almost whole thread, i've started to think that the future of Starcraft may not be so bright, as LoL and Dota 2 Get more popularity somehow. So SAD T.T
WHyTePoWeR
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)132 Posts
June 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#275
On June 17 2012 04:29 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.

Hypocrites


Because I would rather the players take in something that they actually enjoy instead of being forced down the throat something else. And we are totally empathetic about their choice.



well it was sort of the same for bw, didn't stork mention how his slump happened because their team was forced to practice bw and he got bored and started playing wow? Also LoL is easier to switch to than sc2 because its an easy game to get into and its popular right now
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:57:17
June 16 2012 19:56 GMT
#276
Literally, any bashing towards LoL can be replaced with the word "SC2" and the statement would hold true, in terms of skill cap, etc...stop arguing, let the progamers do what they want. As Xiphos stated, seeing them do what they want is more important than being forced to play a game they don't prefer.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 16 2012 20:15 GMT
#277
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.

Hypocrites

uggghhhh any bitterness towards sc2 is because it is an unworthy sequel. LoL is a whole nother thing. but hey while your at it call me a hypocrite for liking bw and mario kart.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
June 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#278
On June 17 2012 05:15 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote:
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote:
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote:
I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.

You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.


The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.

Hypocrites

uggghhhh any bitterness towards sc2 is because it is an unworthy sequel. LoL is a whole nother thing. but hey while your at it call me a hypocrite for liking bw and mario kart.


As I declare over and over again: "we wouldn't be talking about this game if it wasn't named Starcraft." Its success has been built almost purely on that brand name, and therefore it will be unable to step out of its predecessor's shadow.
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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#279
On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote:
if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?

can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics

You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?


Yea, I don't get why people think high level RTS mechanics are going to translate directly into MOBA skill. The games are different in both mechanics and gameplay dynamic. 1v1 vs 5v5. Hardcore multitasking and economy management vs. almost solely micromanagement based play. It's almost like thinking pro FPS players could transition to RTS because they can click accurately and click fast -.-;;
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
June 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#280
On June 17 2012 05:27 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote:
On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote:
if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?

can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics

You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?


Yea, I don't get why people think high level RTS mechanics are going to translate directly into MOBA skill. The games are different in both mechanics and gameplay dynamic. 1v1 vs 5v5. Hardcore multitasking and economy management vs. almost solely micromanagement based play. It's almost like thinking pro FPS players could transition to RTS because they can click accurately and click fast -.-;;


Except the console fps players, we all hate them and think that they are skilless compared to true pc fps pros
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