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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
June 16 2012 08:19 GMT
#221
On June 16 2012 13:54 IcedBacon wrote:
I don't know why Korea isn't getting into DotA 2 instead :/

the characters are more moe and the cosplay are done really well:
+ Show Spoiler +

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it's popular among both male and female
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maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
June 16 2012 08:23 GMT
#222
the characters are more moe and the cosplay are done really well


I thought it was aegyo in Korean.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
June 16 2012 08:39 GMT
#223
On June 16 2012 17:23 maximuspita wrote:
Show nested quote +
the characters are more moe and the cosplay are done really well


I thought it was aegyo in Korean.

yea it could be :p
but in japan, it's getting bigger because of these cosplays (appears to be so on internet anyway)
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
June 16 2012 08:49 GMT
#224
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
June 16 2012 08:58 GMT
#225
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


It could be true before but that's not the case anymore since Dreamhack Summer (this weekend) has all 3 of Dota 2, HoN, and LoL. Riot/LoL has just been able to capture the attention of the tournament organizers (MLG Lee and Carmac) by promoting their game well and giving support to the tournaments on site so they have fewer things to worry about.
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 09:23:33
June 16 2012 09:18 GMT
#226
DURRHURRDERP, do you know that Sc2 uses the some model for finding opponents? You play 5 match to get placed, and the more you play, the better the system knows how is your "true" raiting, thus giving you opponents with similar level, as for everything else, i agree, nice post
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 16 2012 09:24 GMT
#227
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."

source please
GANDHISAUCE
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
June 16 2012 09:27 GMT
#228
I know, I played SC2 a lot before LoL, but the SC2 system of placement matches is only 5, and after that if you're winning around 50% of your matches you'll basically never leave the league you're placed in. LoL for new players has the level/exp progression so for new players even if they're winning/losing 50% they're still "progressing" by leveling up and unlocking new content.
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
OniGami
Profile Joined December 2011
Japan140 Posts
June 16 2012 09:33 GMT
#229
I feel bad for Grape. He is too young to retire.
物の哀れ
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 09:49:23
June 16 2012 09:48 GMT
#230
On June 16 2012 18:27 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
I know, I played SC2 a lot before LoL, but the SC2 system of placement matches is only 5, and after that if you're winning around 50% of your matches you'll basically never leave the league you're placed in. LoL for new players has the level/exp progression so for new players even if they're winning/losing 50% they're still "progressing" by leveling up and unlocking new content.


Yes, but possible only becouse of the genre of the game. You cannot unlock anything in Sc2, maybe new avatar icons, but thats it. And you do progress, if you win 50% of your games, you will gain more points than you lose. And if you progressing by skill, you will be promoted to higher leagues
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 09:58:46
June 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#231
On June 16 2012 18:27 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
I know, I played SC2 a lot before LoL, but the SC2 system of placement matches is only 5, and after that if you're winning around 50% of your matches you'll basically never leave the league you're placed in. LoL for new players has the level/exp progression so for new players even if they're winning/losing 50% they're still "progressing" by leveling up and unlocking new content.


Hardly a good thing, IMO. The grind for lvl 30 is way too long in my opinion, and the grind for runepages, runes and 16 champions is even more ridiculous. But I guess that's a necessity when your game is free.

Never understood the mentality of people saying you need as much experience as possible before doing ranked. There's ELO to sort out your skill level anyway.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
June 16 2012 09:58 GMT
#232
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


AHAHAAHHAHAA.

Yeah except Dota 2 and HoN have been at a bunch of events that league has been at. Them contracts. Hurtin' that esports.
chriZqq
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
141 Posts
June 16 2012 10:13 GMT
#233
On June 16 2012 18:58 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


AHAHAAHHAHAA.

Yeah except Dota 2 and HoN have been at a bunch of events that league has been at. Them contracts. Hurtin' that esports.

IIRC was it the case why DotA2 wasnt featured in the german ESL.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
June 16 2012 10:24 GMT
#234
On June 16 2012 19:13 chriZqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 18:58 Kaal wrote:
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


AHAHAAHHAHAA.

Yeah except Dota 2 and HoN have been at a bunch of events that league has been at. Them contracts. Hurtin' that esports.

IIRC was it the case why DotA2 wasnt featured in the german ESL.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307596

You mean this? It's been speculated by some that Riot puts ESL under contract no one has found any evidence of that happening.
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RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
June 16 2012 11:04 GMT
#235
On June 16 2012 18:24 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."

source please

http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/316812097?t=1h22m45s
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
June 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#236
On June 16 2012 20:04 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 18:24 De4ngus wrote:
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."

source please

http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/316812097?t=1h22m45s


Wow, if its true and not just trash talk, i can understand why every other moba's player hates LoL that much other than just making the game too simple
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 16 2012 11:35 GMT
#237
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


You guys have to get over this notion of esportu. They stand on their own.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
June 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#238
On June 16 2012 18:58 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


AHAHAAHHAHAA.

Yeah except Dota 2 and HoN have been at a bunch of events that league has been at. Them contracts. Hurtin' that esports.


care to explain.
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/05/09/league-of-legends-sign-up-today/
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/05/25/sign-up-for-the-dreamhon-byoc-qualifier/
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/04/10/dreamhack-dota-2-vengeance-cup/
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RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
June 16 2012 11:42 GMT
#239
On June 16 2012 20:35 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


You guys have to get over this notion of esportu. They stand on their own.

I put it in quotes because I don't really subscribe to it all that much myself.
However, undercutting growth of the scene as a whole to purely profit yourself is a colossal dick move, and is stupid in the long run. I mean, I realize they ARE businesses, and they're trying to get every possible edge on the competition, but that doesn't mean that's acceptable. In the same way that I disapprove of sweat shops, I also disapprove of shady, downright dirty tactics like this.
On June 16 2012 20:37 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 18:58 Kaal wrote:
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote:
On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote:
great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.

Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre.
That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."


AHAHAAHHAHAA.

Yeah except Dota 2 and HoN have been at a bunch of events that league has been at. Them contracts. Hurtin' that esports.


care to explain.
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/05/09/league-of-legends-sign-up-today/
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/05/25/sign-up-for-the-dreamhon-byoc-qualifier/
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/04/10/dreamhack-dota-2-vengeance-cup/

It's explained in the video I linked before, they specifically mention Dreamhack's exemption.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 11:49:05
June 16 2012 11:46 GMT
#240
Hahaha, jeez news like this just makes me laugh and I don't really know why. If it were from a BW team I would care, but there are no BW teams left so I just think "good for them " because at least they are regaining some choice in what they do with their lives.
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